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Old 24-May-17, 19:54
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Girls are outperforming boys in pretty much every field these days. Even physically now.
Hmmmm, no.
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Old 26-May-17, 01:42
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I don't think girls are any stronger now. There is crossfit and a few other things like that but it seems like the golden age of female strength on TV and magazines was like 10-15 years ago.
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Old 26-May-17, 02:00
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While the fantasy of women eventually becoming the stronger sex will never happen ( as far as I can see ) the answer to your question is definitely yes.
At the top end of both sexes people are becoming much stronger due to training diet etc.

What is interesting however, is if you compare the strongest girls to average men, that relationship is changing rapidly. Think of how many girls are getting really strong and well trained in martial arts, wrestling etc. While the AVERAGE guy due to our modern sedentary lifestyle is probably going backwards. This is a lifestyle thing not some kind of evolutionary shift. BUT, for the first time in history I think you can safely say that their are a lot of females out there who could kick the shit out of lot of males.
Yea ... this is exactly what I see. on the top end the biggest guys are still and always will be the strongest. But what is new is an entire generation (or two) of women who are lifting weights, building muscle and participating in almost every sport that used to be the preserve of men. So I see virtually every day women at my gym who are ripped and jacked juxtaposed with you g guys who are basically weaklings. That was something you just didnt see maybe 40 years ago. I love it ....

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Here's something I absolutely do not understand. Why do you see virtually no muscular women on TV or in the movies? I'm not talking 200 lb steroid monsters ... just super fit women with muscular arms and legs ... typical Physique or Figure bodies? Take the new Superwoman ... she's beautiful but really really skinny.

Given how relatively common and accepted and even desired that kind of female physique is now ... why dont we see it? You'd think in some scifi stuff it would be an obvious choice ...

It's not taboo because Hell ... Hollywood has pushed the envelope in virtually every conceivable way ACCEPT for fit women ....

-Corey Everson had a few roles ... 20 years ago
-Vicky Pratt was awesome ... 20 years ago
-Priss in blade runner was great but not muscular

What is it?

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Girls are outperforming boys in pretty much every field these days. Even physically now. More and more girls are taking up combat sports and finding that they can destroy male opponents - often with ease. Are girls getting stronger? or have they always been stronger than boys - but just discouraged by society from getting involved in sports? Should males be worried by this trend?

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I think its the fact that girls are doing strength training at their schools along with the boys.And getting as strong or stronger then the boys.And these days while the girls are getting stronger. The boys are playing video games or watching TV.
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Old 04-Nov-17, 17:34
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I think when we see a grown woman playing linebacker in the NFL then we will all know .....lmao
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Haha, these kinds of wishful thinking threads.

Are girls/women getting stronger? Sure. Participation in fitness, sports, and gym related activities such as Crossfit are more commonplace now than previous generations. The rise in exercise science and strength training has also proven to be effective for women as it has for men. So certainly women are 'getting stronger' in the sense that they are realizing more of their potential, but women from previous eras had this potential as well. Nonetheless, all other factors controlled for, men will always outperform women.

But I for one don't see this as an inconvenient truth. I think it's the fact that women are weaker than men that makes mixed wrestling so interesting and ironic. The idea of a weaker woman, who can still dominate and control by outwitting you and using her strongest assets to control your weaker ones (ie. your neck) is what makes this stuff so exciting.
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But I for one don't see this as an inconvenient truth. I think it's the fact that women are weaker than men that makes mixed wrestling so interesting and ironic. The idea of a weaker woman, who can still dominate and control by outwitting you and using her strongest assets to control your weaker ones (ie. your neck) is what makes this stuff so exciting.
Have to say it doesn't work that way for me.

For me, it is about looking beyond "averages" and finding examples of women that can beat men in a complete way. Even when resorting to his last bastion of masculinity - physical strength - she still beats him at anything and everything.
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I haven't read all of the comments admittedly, so I hope I'm not repeating anyone.

But yeah, women are getting stronger and tougher because it is more acceptable to be strong and participate in wrestling, boxing, MMA, crossfit, ninja competitions and the list goes on.

Not only is it acceptable, but it's admired and encouraged.

Not to mention, in the outdoor realm where I spend more time, girls are now more active and competitive in mountain biking, rock climbing and trail running.

Being stronger, more active, aggressive and physical is no longer taboo, it's the norm.

Lets enjoy!!!!
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Meet ‘Supergirl,’ the World’s Strongest Teenager
By COREY KILGANNON DEC. 1, 2017


Naomi Kutin, 16, who lives in Fair Lawn, N.J., has been competing in power lifting since she was 8.

Most days, Naomi Kutin, a high school junior from New Jersey, is a mere teenage mortal.

“Normally, my mind is on school, friends, my phone, social media, stuff like that,” she said. “But when I lift, I put it all to the side, and all I care about is that bar in front of me.”

During weekend powerlifting competitions, when the crowd is revved up and that bar is loaded with hundreds of pounds — Naomi squats 321 pounds and dead lifts 365 pounds — she turns into Supergirl.

It was Supergirl who stalked up to a heavily laden bar on a recent Sunday morning during a powerlifting competition in New Jersey.

“This is Naomi Kutin, the strongest teenager in the world in both the squat and the dead lift,” said the announcer, Geno Biancheri, the charismatic tournament M.C. known as the Pirate of Powerlifting for his heavy metal ringmaster style.

Naomi squatted more than 300 pounds in a preliminary lift. “That’s twice her body weight, as her opener,” Mr. Biancheri said.

Naomi started lifting competitively when she was 8 and quickly began setting national and world records in adult powerlifting categories. By 9, as a wispy 88-pounder competing in the 97-pound weight class, she squatted 215 pounds to break a world record held by a 44-year-old German woman.

Naomi is now 16, but her slim build makes her heavy lifts look even more incredible, and early on she gained the Supergirl nickname as a sweet description for a diminutive athlete. But the name has expanded into an intensely competitive alter ego for an otherwise shy and unassuming teenager.

“In school plays, I get stage fright, but I don’t have stage fright in powerlifting, even if I’m in front of hundreds of people,” said Naomi, whose modern Orthodox Jewish family follows strict religious rules.

While she must wear modest attire at her all-girls Yeshiva in Teaneck, her powerlifting outfit includes a singlet and T-shirt, as well as colorfully striped knee socks, always mismatched, and bright red high-tops.

To work herself into an adrenaline-fueled zone of concentration at the recent Sunday competition, she paced behind the lifting area, with heavy metal blasting on her headphones.

“I hate it — I only listen to it before I lift,” said Naomi, who approaches the bar with yells, growls, staccato breathing and pumping arms. It is an unexpected preparatory ritual from a teenage girl who spends her weekdays studying the Talmud.

Naomi often competes alongside her 14-year-old brother, Ari, and their father, Ed Kutin, both of whom are also accomplished lifters. Her mother, Neshama, assumes the role of manager. During the recent competition, Ms. Kutin cheered on her family and joked about her superstrong children shirking chores.

“They’re lifting in the 300- to 350-pound range, but you should be there when I ask them to carry in the packages,” she said.

In truth, she said, they are helpful. Years ago, Naomi helped with the groceries by carrying a 60-pound bag of dog food out of the supermarket. A bystander called it too heavy a load for a child.

“I told him, ‘We’re fine, you have no idea who she is,’” Ms. Kutin recalled.

As a child, Naomi was a standout in karate and could beat the local boys at push-ups and other strength exercises. Her father, a longtime powerlifter, asked her to join his lifting workouts.

“She said, ‘I thought you’d never ask me,’” Ms. Kutin recalled.

The family ran it by their rabbi, since it is an unconventional activity for Orthodox girls. And then Naomi was off and lifting.

Too young for a gym membership, Naomi worked out with Mr. Kutin’s weights in the basement next to the washer and dryer.

Mr. Kutin taught Naomi basic techniques and grounded her in the rudiments of athletic motivation: the first three “Rocky” movies.

“We thought when she first started that it’d be a kid fad, that she’d quit within three months,” Ms. Kutin said recently as the family trained in their cramped basement.

On the wall was her hand-scrawled sign — “No Fear” — next to a Jewish calendar.

Naomi cranked up the heavy metal music and loaded heavy plates on the bar for sets of squats, lowering into a crouch with the weight bar on her shoulders. Then came dead lifts, short hoists from the ground while standing.

Naomi is the subject of a documentary “Supergirl,” to be broadcast Dec. 18 as part of the Independent Lens series on PBS.

The Kutins are often the only observant Jewish family at lifting meets, and they bring a large box of kosher food and drinks. Fans and fellow competitors often give Naomi Supergirl memorabilia.

Because of Sabbath rules, they do not compete on Saturdays, when many of the female trials are held. Many tournament officials allow Naomi to lift on Sunday with men competing in the heavyweight category.

It is quite a sight: a wispy teenage girl lifting alongside musclebound and heavily tattooed men.

“Most women and kids don’t do that,” she said. “But men get more physically psyched, so I actually prefer lifting with the men.”
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Old 24-Dec-17, 11:28
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My mother teached judo for so many years and she told me that in the last years she noticed more and more girls performing better than the boys, often being much more athletic and gifted for sports. By contrast, many guys just sit and play videogames and then go to the judo class cause their moms or dads want that. Her best and most skilled students in the last years were females...Of course she did not say that women nowdays are stronger than men (and a bigger male, even if less trained, will always be difficult to beat for a girl who weights 20 or 30 kilos less), just that the gap that she noticed 30 years ago when she started teaching judo (she is 52 now) is becoming thiner and thiner every year that pass.
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