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License to Kill, your story about Caster Semenya was not accurate. I remember some of the other athletes complaining about her but the Olympic Committee tested her and she's a woman. There is not a penis under her skin. She was suspended during the testing but went back to competing with all the other women. It clearly said so in the Wikipedia article you linked to in your post.
Sorry, I thought I'd read that years ago. My mistake.
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Maybe Ultimate Surrender should give that a try.
They actually have done tranny vs female ultimate surrender matches.
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Correct. Whatever her situation is it seems a bit different from the sort of thing we're talking about in this thread.
Apologies for taking the thread off topic. I get preachy sometimes.

I think it's a good subject for some and the occasional trans opponent can be larger. I was interested in seeing Mistress Mercy before she took down her profile.
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Apologies for taking the thread off topic. I get preachy sometimes.

I think it's a good subject for some and the occasional trans opponent can be larger. I was interested in seeing Mistress Mercy before she took down her profile.
She was very good. Decided against doing a review as it basically would've been me saying I got exactly what I expected re her profile and DM work, guess there'd be no point posting something like that now anyway.
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Does transgender females have better chance of defeating male fighters than natural females?

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Does transgender females have better chance of defeating male fighters than natural females?

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It's *trans women*, not "transgender females." She's gorgeous, by the way, even if she is kind of cis-passing. As a cis-man, though, that's not really my business.

There is a lot of transphobia in sport that we need to do away with immediately. It's so harmful.
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Interesting difference in her opinion vs say, Fallon Fox. I wonder if we'll ever have Anne Veriato vs Fox?
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It's *trans women*, not "transgender females."
Do you believe that language is confusing? If not, do you understand why someone else might be confused by it?

Regardless, without a "genetic male beats up on the girls" or "genetic girl beats up on the guys" angle, I'm not sure there's really much of a story here.
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Does transgender females have better chance of defeating male fighters than natural females?
My initial thought was 'yes' for obvious reasons. But in 1-on-1 sports with various intangibles, it really depends on the individuals involved. People are too quick to talk about what women (as a whole) are capable and not capable of with scant disregard for individuals.
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Do you believe that language is confusing? If not, do you understand why someone else might be confused by it?

Regardless, without a "genetic male beats up on the girls" or "genetic girl beats up on the guys" angle, I'm not sure there's really much of a story here.
No, it isn't. It isn't confusing at all. That's how people want to be referred to, I'm pretty sure, as trans women or just women. Women, whether they are cisgender or trans, compete as women.

Overscrutinizing a trans woman's appearance, how they (trans women) compete in sports, comparing them as "less woman" than cis women, etc. is transphobia and should never be allowed to happen. People who overscrutinize Caster Semenya and trans women in sports are transphobic. We must be vigilant in doing away with transphobia wherever it exists.
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