"IFFIE" Scenes in Movies or TV

[Dennis Dune]

"Iffie" is my own shortened term for the term "incestuous femdom," though since fighting is the proper subject for this board. maybe it should be "ifffie."

This isn't my only sphere of interest, as throughout my life I've been collecting various scenes of femdom of all kinds in all media. The ones involving incestuous or "incest-like" relationships, though, have a certain appeal in part because they're a "hard get," either in professionally made movies and TV shows or in specialty forms.

When I say "incest-like," I mean that I think the transgressive thrill applies even when you may have femdom violence between persons who aren't related even by legalities, but where there's some factor, usually that of age, that makes it highly unusual to see violence between the two (or more) participants. For instance, when an old goat fondles a young thing in such-and-such a NATIONAL LAMPOON movie, and he gets kneed in the jewels for it, to me that's as much "ifffie" violence as violence between a real father and daughter.

Not sure there's any interest in the topic here, though I've seen a good number of stories devoted to the subject in Stories. If no interest, that's the way the ball-- or something-- bounces.

[edwardpaul]

these threads maybe of interest

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[Dennis Dune]

Well, two responses (one in the mail) is better than I got on another forum, so as a wrapup I'll toss out some basic info-- sort of like those old catfight-movie lists where no specifics are listed-- and if anyone wants to pursue the stuff, they can, and if not, then not.

The following three posts will concern only scenes involving women getting the better of men in what I called "iffiie" situations, which may not connote actual biological relatedness; it may just be an age-difference involved.

I'll divide the posts as D, M, and S. One guess what the letters stand for. Since this forum concerns only fighting, no references to non-fighting violence-- edged weapons, bludgeons, magic powers-- will be included here.

[Dennis Dune]

D-types:

(oh, yeah, these are either live-action or animated works; no prose or comics)

ANGEL
THE ANTICHRIST
AMERICAN DAD
BLOOD RELATIONS
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER
BASTARD!
DREXEL'S CLASS
DOA: DEAD OR ALIVE
FAMILY GUY
FREDDY'S DEAD
FOREVER KNIGHT
FULL MOON HIGH
THE HIGHWAYMAN
GREEN LANTERN: EMERALD KNIGHTS
HEROES REBORN
HOT BLOODED
IRON SWALLOW
KISS OF THE TARANTULA
MY LITTLE MARGIE
MOTEL BLUE
PROJECT AKO FINAL
RUNNING WILD
SON OF THE BEACH
SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH
SUPERCHICK
SLAYERS
THREE FOR THE ROAD
TALES OF TERROR
WATERHOLE #3
URUSEI YATSURA
YOUNG JUSTICE

[Dennis Dune]

M-types

AMERICATHON
THE ALFRED HITCHCOCK HOUR
AGENT CODY BANKS
AMERICAN DAD
THE BEAUTICIAN AND THE BEAST
THE BRADY BRIDES
BACHELOR FLAT
BIG TROUBLE
CHARMED
CARRY ON COWBOY
DEATHLANDS HOMEWARD BOUND
THE DREW CAREY SHOW
FAMILY TIES
FAMILY GUY
ENGAGED TO KILL
ELECTRA
GHOST ROCK
HERCULES LEGENDARY JOURNEYS
HAPPY LESSON
HEAT OF DESIRE
HONEY I SHRUNK THE KIDS (TV)
LOVE HINA
KISSIN' COUSINS
THE MULLETS
MY FAVORITE MARTIAN
THE MAN FROM UNCLE
MODERN FAMILY
NIGHTMARE CAFE
THE RIFLEMAN
SAY IT ISN'T SO
SUPERNATURAL
SLEEPWALKERS
THIS GIRL FOR HIRE
WE'RE THE MILLERS
URUSEI YATSURA
A WOMAN OBSESSED
USA HIGH
YOUR MOTHER WEARS COMBAT BOOTS

[Dennis Dune]

S-types

THE ADDAMS FAMILY
AWESOME LOTUS
AMERICAN DAD
THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES
THE BIG VALLEY
THE BRADY BUNCH
BLEACH
BATMAN AND ROBIN
BASTARD!
CHAMELEON 3
DUCKMAN
DREADNAUGHT
DONNY AND MARIE
FAMILY GUY
FREEDOM
EPIC MOVIE
FALL OF THE HOUSE OF USHER (60)
FIREFLY
FRUITS BASKET
EVERWOOD
FATAL INSTINCT
GROUNDED FOR LIFE
THE HILLS HAVE EYES PART 2
THE HOTEL NEW HAMPSHIRE
GIRLY
GOTHAM
GREEN LANTERN EMERALD KNIGHTS
GIRLS BRAVO
GET DOWN AND BOOGIE
LOVE HINA
MARRIED WITH CHILDREN
MYSTERIOUS MUSEUM
MY SOUL TO TAKE
MASTER WITH CRACKED FINGERS
THE MAD ROOM
THE NEW ADDAMS FAMILY
NIGHTMARE CAFE
OREIMO
THE PARTRIDGE FAMILY
THE PIT
SUPERMAN BATMAN APOCALYPSE
SAVED BY THE BELL
SORCERER HUNTERS
SHADOW SKILL
STEP BY STEP
TEEN TITANS GO
TROMEO AND JULIET
UNHAPPILY EVER AFTER
VAMPIRE DIARIES
URUSEI YATSURA
YU YU HAKUSHO
YELLOW HAIR AND THE FORTRESS OF GOLD
YUMERIA

[Dennis Dune]

In closing I should add that many scenes don't constitute a "fight" as such; it may be no more than a quick punch, judo toss, etc.

[tonymontana]

Can you please elaborate where to find these scenes? I don't want to go through entire movies/series for one small scene.

Thank you.

I agree with Tony. Considering over 1,000 people have read your post and yet no-one has even guessed what D, M and S relate to. Also show clips of each not list the movie or tv series.

[Dennis Dune]

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Can you please elaborate where to find these scenes? I don't want to go through entire movies/series for one small scene.

Thank you.

I very belatedly decided to respond to this request, post a few write-ups from my coded files, in case it helps any other posters find stuff they're looking for. Here's some of the first few "fighting-oriented" items I wrote up. SPOILERS, since endings are often discussed.

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ACTION COMICS #346 (CB) (1967)—“The Case of the Superman Impostor!”— (D/F):I/V.3 (+), I/V.1 (?)—This story plays upon the continuing trope in which SUPERMAN, older cousin to SUPERGIRL, functions as an avuncular guide to the teenager. A gang of blackmailers, knowing of this relationship, uses plastic surgery to transform one of them, MAXIE, into a carbon copy of SUPERMAN. With his altered face and a Superman costume, MAXIE tricks SUPERGIRL into revealing her identity and that of her cousin, at which point they try to blackmail her. SUPERGIRL is so rattled by the trick that MAXIE invites her to slug him in the jaw, the better to prove that he’s not the real SUPERMAN, testing her in some absurd fashion. To SUPERGIRL’s good fortune, the blackmailers are killed in a manner that conceals the heroine’s blunder. The scene in which SUPERGIRL slugs her cousin-lookalike is therefore violence-negative in the sense that he is of no relation to her at the primary and secondary levels, but at the tertitary level he is an “older man” being clobbered by a “younger girl.” It may be noted that given the long history of SUPERMAN being bossy toward his cousin, the scene in which she slugs his lookalike could be an author’s extrapolation of what SUPERGIRL might really like to do to SUPERMAN.

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ADDAMS FAMILY, THE (TVS) (1966)— “Ophelia’s Career”—(S/B):I/V.2 (+), I/S.2 (?)—In a possible displacement of sexual feeling through violence, OPHELIA judo-flips brother-in-law GOMEZ four times.

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AMERICAN DAD (TVS) (2011)—“Stannie Boy and Frantastic”—(M/S):I/V.1 (+)—STEVE approaches FRAN when she’s trying to conceal her real age before a young couple. To sell the idea that STEVE’s just some bum cadging money, she hits him with her purse and kicks him once.

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AMERICATHON (F) (1979)—(M/S):I/V.1 (+)—One of the many weird acts put on for the “Americathon” is the world’s first mother-son boxing-match. Beefy MA MILLER and her son LARRY exchange several punches, as well as insulting one another. Finally MA, after getting decked by LARRY, pretends weakness and then kicks LARRY in the balls, ending the fight. __________________________

ANTICHRIST, THE (F) (1974)—(S/B):I/S.1 (+), (D/F):I/V (+)—Crippled IPPOLITA gets a chance to rebel against her father MASSIMO’s authority—especially his marriage to new wife GRETA—when a demon possesses IPPOLITA. The crippled girl uses her power to fling her father around telekinetically, beat him with her fist and generally almost kill him. She also convinces him to send GRETA away. IPPOLITA also sexes up her brother FILIPPO before the resident priest manages to exorcise her.

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