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Old 12-Mar-17, 04:05
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Why Porn Has Gotten So Rough
In ‘Pornocracy,’ a doc playing SXSW, the French porn veteran turned filmmaker Ovidie traces the collapse of the traditional adult industry at the hands of free streaming tube sites.

Marlow Stern
03.11.17 3:57 AM ET

“It’s become more rough. It’s become generally more… humiliating,” offers Julianna, a top porn agent. “Anyone can open the internet and find anything they want, and when you watch this, you go, ok, what’s the next step? You’re always curious about going deeper and deeper and deeper.”

Julianna is the co-founder of Julmodels, an agency for porn performers based in Hungary. She is also one of the subjects of Pornocracy, an eye-opening documentary about the state of porn playing at SXSW. The crux of the film, directed by the French porn veteran turned director Ovidie, is that free XXX tube sites have not only left the adult industry in tatters, but are a pox on society: a danger to sex workers, forcing them into extreme acts of degradation due to dwindling demand, and to our youth, allowing them unfettered access to hardcore pornography.

The latter issue looms large in Ovidie’s harrowing film, a stygian exploration into porn’s white collar underbelly that likens its hoodied, pierced creator to a Lisbeth Salander-esque hacktivist truth-bombing the system. In one particularly cringe-inducing scene, Pierre Woodman, a renowned DIY porn filmmaker, captures the corrupting influence of tube sites.

“The root of it all is that internet piracy is killing adult movies, streaming content that should only be for adults but that is now unfortunately available to young people as well,” he says. “And I’m fed up with hearing every day during casting sessions a girl who says, ‘Oh I’ve known you since I was eight years old.’ That’s just too much.”

After navigating her way past performers, handlers, and producers, Ovidie’s quest leads her to the kingpin: MindGeek, a multinational corporation with a near-monopoly on free streaming porn. The conglomerate owns all the sites in the Pornhub network, including YouPorn, RedTube, GayTube, Tube8, and Pornhub; as well as the porno studios Brazzers, Digital Playground, Reality Kings, Twistys, and the bulk of Playboy’s digital and TV operations. But the sprawling company, which previously operated under the names Mansef and Manwin, has run afoul of the law on numerous occasions. In 2009, the Secret Service seized $6.4 million in funds from two fidelity bank accounts controlled by Mansef, with Feds accusing the syndicate of money laundering; and in 2012, its then-owner Fabian Thylmann, a young German programmer once hailed as the Mark Zuckerberg of porn, was arrested on charges of tax evasion.

What Pornocracy does is raises plenty of questions concerning MindGeek’s operations. Why is it headquartered in Luxembourg, a notorious tax haven, when most of its operations appear to be run out of Canada? Do Wall Street hedge funds have a controlling interest in the company? Who is actually pulling the strings? How are these sites not violating copyright laws? And why is the money allegedly being routed through various countries to performers?

“They’re a fishy, weird company,” says Stoya, a Digital Playground contract girl from 2007-2013, in the film. “My Fleshlight royalties, when the wire transfers come in, go through banks in places like South Africa. They have offices in Ireland. It’s a bunch of men with Greek last names and thick Greek accents claiming to be Quebecois.”

It all began with the “great crash of 2006.” That year, adult DVD sales experienced a sharp decline. The cratering coincided with the arrival of YouPorn, porn’s version of YouTube featuring millions of pirated XXX videos that are free to stream. In 2011, YouPorn was purchased by Manwin, which proceeded to gobble up most of the other tube sites—before acquiring the adult industry’s leading production studios as well. Female performer’s wages dropped from around $3,000 to $600 a shoot, and even the biggest and brightest porn stars now flock to “extreme” sites like Kink for work. Today, many of the premier porn studios are struggling; pirated videos, on the other hand, make up approximately 95 percent of the porn consumed across the globe.

“Up until 10 years ago, the industry consisted of a constellation of smaller producers who produced and sold their own content directly on DVD or via VOD,” Ovidie tells me. “Within the past 10 years, the entire industry has been taken over by big tech companies, multinationals managed by businessmen based in tax havens who don’t have any real connection to the porn industry. These people are not there on-set during shooting; they have no contact with the workers or the actual production process. What is happening in porn is exactly what’s happening in many other sectors: an ‘Uberisation’ of the workforce, with huge platforms who have no consideration for performers.”

The answer, Ovidie says, is for various governments to begin regulating these tube sites in order to protect minors from accessing them, which will in turn grant the adult industry a degree of latitude.

“In France, my film and the issues it tackles was taken very seriously on a national level, and politically by the Ministry of Women’s Affairs. They are considering putting in place legal protections for minors. This is the most urgent thing that can be done,” she says. “The Tube sites have no system to protect minors from watching, as opposed to paid porn sites where you generally at least need a credit card to watch. On the Tubes, the access is immediate, and they don’t verify age. They are free, easy, and accessible via a phone. The age of porn site consumers has gone down dramatically, and the effects of this are catastrophic. If free access to porn is limited, then producers can get their funding back, start working legally again, and pay their talent fairly.”
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The article is interesting and the main argument, about the influence of the multinational corporations, is an important one.

But there are a few things that bother me (also in Ovidie's speech). The danger in pornography is linked to a rise of violence without even mentioning consent, respect or self-esteem. Of course it is essential to condemn violence against women, in porn like in every other situation...but doing that without acknowledging sexual diversity and the complexity of intimate desires closes the possibility of a discussion. And it leads people to think that all porn movies are to blame and deserve contempt. I don't think that increasing control will be successful if there still are the same shadows around sexuality (as in the actual debate in UK about the digital economy bill).
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Interesting article. Thanks Stymie.

We can dissect it into 3 major points:

1. Pornographic content is getting more extreme
Yes, it is. And it is awesome. As the society becomes more accepting of BDSM and general domination / humiliation narrative in pornography, the amount of such content will grow. Many feelings that were suppressed before can now openly be discussed and related activities enjoyed. People like rough sex, sorry, Ovidie. Get over it.

2. MindGeek sucks
Indeed it does. Monopoly is never a good thing. It is no secret that most actors / actresses are afraid to speak against tube sites nowadays due to (potentially) working for the same company that owns the tube sites. As far as copyright infringement on the tubes, it is in fact a big issue. If you are aware of the architecture of these sites, you know they indeed welcome piracy and make it hard for producers to locate and ask for the removal of the content. It takes in average 2 days for them to attend a DMCA. If it is weekend it can take up to 4-5 days, which can lead to hundreds if not thousands of views before the content is taken down. There is no way to access the tickets because there are none. In the case of PornHub, once you send them a DMCA notice, you have no access to any information that indicates that it was indeed sent. You have to sit there and wait for them to hopefully act on it. While they do act on these notices, it has happened to me once that they lost the notice (as they said on their support forum) and I had to send it again. They have an expensive "solution" in place to sign up as a producer in order for them to automatically detect and remove your content, as well as giving you the option to remove it faster (just like on YouTube). This is outsourced, although I'm sure they own it too. I contacted the company to inquire about the prices and sign up, but they did not respond to my inquiry... So, yeah, it is fair to say that MindGeek's sites encourage piracy.

3. Tube sites should be regulated to prevent minors from watching them
This one is difficult. While there should be a mechanism on tube sites that lets parents control what their children should access or not, it should ultimately be up to the parents to install such systems on their children's computers / devices. NetNanny and similar products will do the job for you. At the same time, with how technological today's kids are, there is no way you are stopping them from viewing something if they want to. Many crave porn when they hit puberty, as did I. Is it good to view porn when you are a minor? Maybe not. But these kinds of regulations usually use children as an excuse. Look at what happened with UK laws. They cited children being able to access fetish content online being dangerous for their health, and prohibited distribution of facesitting, spanking, headscissors, squirting content through UK servers or UK companies. Many producers, left with alternative less profitable ways of distribution, stopped producing content at all. So, my opinion on this is let parents do the controlling they want. On the other hand, any adult website should have a warning sign stating that it contains adult content on the first visit of a visitor, giving the option for them to leave the site if they choose to. I don't think pornhub has this, but maybe I'm not seeing it due to cookies already set for the IP.
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Default Re: Why Porn Has Gotten So Rough

Relating to your third point, blocking internet access to websites is often counterproductive for everybody and children indeed are "used" in this debate, where singularity and difference are further marginalized. I agree the warning sign is a compromise, and at first it is lack of information and understanding that can be harmful to minors.
Actually, Pornhub just lauched a sexual education ressource (of course with a link to their main site...). It is quite insincere and a purely strategic move, but it shows how much the arguments blaming porn for corrupting minors are biased.
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The worst thing about porn, I think, is the young models that get talked into filming it. I think it was on Netflix, an actress produced a movie on the porn industry and a lot of what goes on is disgusting. 18 or 19 year old women, of legal age will get paid $1000 or more to do a shoot, but often it ends up being painful, too many guys, or, anal, or too rough but the entire event is going on and they don't think they can say stop or ask for a break cause the camera's running. That's what I'd like to see regulated, the mistreatment of many of the models.

Same thing goes for the international sex trade, only that's even worse, it often involves 14 year olds, without their consent. The content doesn't bother me at all, it's what happens to some of the women that makes my blood boil.

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the fact that multinational corporation has control of most of the pornography seenaround the world should make you think twice about the value of these sites. these busineses are evading paying taxes, abusing their performers. and sites like this one often get thrown in with these creepy "corporate sites.
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While violence in porn is absolutely a problem, I have issue with the "think of the children" route this person is taking. I have an issue with it because I was once a kid with a great deal of sexual curiosity in a home that was very restrictive. Because of that experience, I'm going to tell you all something people like them and many people here know is true but don't actually want to acknowledge it, a painfully upsetting, irritating, and inconvenient truth: sex drives don't start at 18. Effectively, you're telling a kid who is experiencing some really powerful and confusing stimulation to repress it for six-odd years because it is icky for grown-ups. Is it any wonder why so many people are screwed-up sexually now? If anything, I think "protect the children," is probably contributing to the rise of violent pornography because the systematic denial of a very important stage in the children's development. The very first thing we teach children is their body is not theirs, and we wonder why rapes keep happening. Maybe the rise of violent pornography is that kids spends their first years of sexual development horny and angry, angry about being horny and angry about not being able to do anything about being horny.

I remember drawing my own porn when I was very young. I remember it sometimes being awfully violent, like dismemberment and death levels of violent. When I got older, got away from home, and finally had some freedom, those feelings faded away, but some of it also remains. I really don't want that to happen to anyone else.
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