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- Shawna Strong is MusclebeautyX I think? I think she might be stronger now than when I saw her if anything, but it's probably inconclusive comparing her and Tia on the left for me (Tia got a definite win at the end but lost twice while always with long matches; Shawna won although her elbow did lift a bit, but she might've been ahead anyway). On the right maybe I'm giving Tia the edge after watching videos, as we didn't try on that arm, but I won vs Shawna. Seems you feel Shawna would have better chances on the right than left vs Tia though, and probably that makes sense with Tia being left handed. I wouldn't confidently bet either way on their match probably actually! - Ironfire actually had better results on the left overall than Tia, but still maybe I'm not convinced she'd be favourite to win on that side. The thing Tia seemed to have was being able to compete really well when behind, but anyway I think she carried on getting stronger after I saw her probably too. - I think I was slow to start on the right with KO, and she took it a bit easy on the left, so maybe my experiences aren't easy to use for her. When I went behind on the right though, I knew I couldn't recover so maybe she'd be one who could win on that side reliably anyway, so I can understand how you can think she's better on that side than Tia. It seems like KO's reputation (evident maybe on some videos too) is also better on the left though. - I think I saw Venom at her strongest and she was pretty competitive at it because of that. Either that or Diana might be better than me (she might well be on the left actually anyway) and now much closer to Tia than RNC experienced! I'm not saying I'd see Venom as being really really close with Tia though even from when I did see her in the midst of crossfit type training (as referred to on another thread she was really really close with Viktoria at it at that time though as a reference, and won on the right side). Quote:
So actually, to try to answer the question lol, if I did guess then I would think Cindy might be about in Tia's level in armwrestling yes! (but it is a guess). Last edited by Armwrestlefan99; 22-Feb-18 at 19:53. |
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Of those 3 who defeated me in both arms I would rank:
Amazon Annie > Anna M strong >>> Tia I never wrestled Mahea or Anat but from their size and my experience with girls of similar size , I would be VERY surprised if they can defeat Anna M strong. Not to mention Amazon Annie. But still I’m waiting to armwrestle one of them to solve this very intriguing conundrum Here is a video where Annie mentions (go straight to 5:06 mark) that she was never beat by a woman, and based on my experiences to date I strongly believe her. 5 weeks after our session I still can’t believe I lost to a woman using both my arms against one arm of hers (left or right btw). [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] Last edited by Royh; 22-Feb-18 at 20:45. |
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I arm wrestled Lia Labowe about 4 years ago and she was very strong at arm wrestling (and easily beat me)... She does a lot of Bikram Yoga which just makes her crazy strong in subtle ways... also she was amazing at wrestling (she used to do BJJ competitively).
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I thought Gia Primo was surprisingly good considering her size.
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Good luck! Although I'm sure you'll see it as a 'cant' lose' situation even if you do lose lol. And probably you'll even like it better if you do, as you might be expecting judging by what willhill said, even if you have doubts which seem understandable regarding whether Annie must've been stronger/better at it when you saw her. It seems like maybe it was similar when you saw Ina Black compared to when I did too, and maybe ditto for Tia (but to confuse matters for example maybe Viktoria wasn't at her strongest for armwrestling when you did it with her and if that was so it'd affect perceptions of others....so who knows lol!). It could've been similar when bum saw Shawna too, compared to when I did...and now I think about it I might've seen Bulldozer post to the effect she wasn't much different to Anna M Strong when he did armwrestling with her even! I think maybe it can also be a matter of match-ups, even if it seems less obvious that it might be compared to in wrestling, or other individual sports like Tennis or Squash or whatever. Assuming it's not all about strength, and knowing that the mechanics regarding techniques, arm lengths, angles or whatever will vary for each match-up (also the setting for the match-up - on a table/bed/floor etc) I think some variation in results between different opponents even on the same day wouldn't be completely shocking. I think bearing in mind that it's not only arm strength that can help too (although she does have some visible muscles when she flexes I know too), it might make sense (particularly for floor-based attempts) that Anat can draw on the strong legs and back Bum referred to, as well as strong wrists like I think willhill might have said she had. I remember talking to Viktoria about when she won on the left against me the first time I met her (which I mentioned to Tia before she finally did get the win on that side too, so maybe it gave the little extra motivation/belief she could do it even - she was trying the previous times though for sure!), and I said "probably your strong back from swimming helped" and she said "yes, also the legs" and I think it is evident in some floor-based matches that that can be the case a bit (although some professional female armwrestlers even seem to wrap their legs around table legs too!). Seeing some clips of Anat squeezing people in scissors she does seem to have a lot of power in her legs! But still the arms would be important in armwrestling obviously, and until such a point you tell us that she did better than Annie, it seems hard for me to think she'd beat Anna M Strong (just because Anna felt unbelievable to try against!). Of course it might be Mahea you would see, but still the same theory applies I guess. Thinking about seeing/reading things on the internet then maybe any top group for armwrestling, for girls who do or did sessions, might also include Shawn Tan and/or Christy Resendes I'd think. Maybe Ms Xena from Sweden too? Maybe also Tatiana Butler: [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] And maybe also Amber DeLuca |
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Really the best info seems like it will come from Royh like we discussed, if he has a session with Mahea or Anat soon! The two-handed attempt vs Amazon Annie does seem really interesting/impressive! I don't know if things like Annie doing better if she gets a lead could partly explain willhill's different experience (on the video Royh posted, Annie did imply she did lose sometimes to males at armwrestling, more than leg wrestling, of course; just like Kasie has lost to some guys at wrestling but just not girls as yet). I don't know whether Annie's longer arms could help more than Anna M Strong's shorter ones vs two hands, but Anna might still do better one arm vs one arm (or Anna wasn't quite at her very strongest when Royh saw her even...). Two many uncertainties and variables I suppose but for now I'd have to assume that Anna M Strong would at least be right at the top level (perhaps with someone like Diana Ball judging by what you said too). I guess I would therefore split level 1 into two sections, and my own experiences would just have one girl in each section: a) Anna M Strong b) Dominique Danger Then I could keep the others I suggested in level 2, also with two sections: a) Renata Hronova group b) Tia group (As per what I posted before with all of the ones you mentioned in 2nd place group that I met making at least 2b unless I said otherwise) I do think I'd be uncertain on 2b compared to 3a though - probably mostly borderline cases, except obviously Tia herself and Calista, at least based on the left side. I'd tend to put Viktoria and Ironfire in 2b too I think, but then it might be a case of 2b or not 2b as Shakespeare might say (sorry, I am cringing at that joke a bit myself after I typed it!). Anyway, after that I think level 3 might be something like: a) Shelby Beach group (also Grace, Panther, Fire, Tiki Taka) b) Starr group (also Star*, Felix, Layla, Bora) Probably, although I did armwrestling with under 40 session girls still I think, in theory there would be a group 4 and group 5. And again I'd say it'd be arguable between 3b and 4a, this time with more going into 3b if anything (especially if I lean towards thinking outside of just the attempts with me). I think, as hinted at, Cindy Huntress would likely be in at least level 3 (willhill did say she was pretty good/tough at it too). I'm fairly sure I didn't personally do armwrestling with Anita D (more recently known as Ani) at DWW but based on her very close match with Viktoria (maybe just right arm, but I forget now) and just generally how strong she was/is I'd say she'd be at least in level 3 for example too. Sometimes it varies between arms, so the groupings are like aggregate impressions, but tending towards the better arm probably. As a vague guide I guess my own right arm would be definite 2a territory, but left arm a less definite 2b. In my earliest sessions I guess more like 3a for right arm, and probably not above 3b for left arm. Some of the girls can be up in 1b for left arm, but I'd only have Anna M Strong in 1a from my experience, for either side. I'm sure some of the girls can have risen a bit in theory since I saw them though. If I wasn't at my strongest when I saw Shelby, maybe neither was she (although she was certainly more experienced in wrestling!). Then according to other comments, it definitely seems like for example Ina Black might not only be in level 3 but perhaps level 2, and that Shawna might not only be a definite 2b but even possibly as high as a definite 1b! Ok, that's it from me for now - I guess it's over to Royh to try to solve the puzzle for the top placings! Or willhill might try a re-match with Annie sometime even (or bum might be able to have a match with her and compare to Tia, KO, Shawna etc). I'm sure that'd be fun 'research' anyway, just like if RNC gets to test if Diana did get stronger and suchlike :-) |
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Trying to do a bit more data analysis lol, and also referring to what's been said on Mahea's review thread:
[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] I did go back and read the earlier posts again and Cynthia Hardbody actually does have two references (from Bum as well as willhill). Reading between the lines (although he might confirm/refute it of course) I wonder whether willhill implies when talking about who did best against him rather than who was surprising, that Cynthia, as well as Amy Rainaldo, can even be a bit above Anat and/or Mahea. While Bum puts Cynthia among the top ones, but maybe behind Tia on the left and KO overall it seems. So looking on the Mahea thread too, and keeping in mind what Royh said, maybe Cynthia/Amy Rainaldo/Anat/Mahea all somewhere in group 2 as per my above post might seem reasonable, with perhaps Cindy Huntress and other generally strong girls will armwrestled more likely in group 3 based on his experiences. And with Amazon Annie on her best form in group 1 somewhere perhaps, with I guess others like Shawn Tan or Diana Ball strong and good enough at it to be there too. I don't have other additions myself right now, but fairly soon might do. Maybe someone else would look at all the posts and not deduce the same ideas as me anyway lol, but yeah looking at the fact Cynthia was mentioned twice (and with a feasible comparison to Tia and others) it seems a bit easier to do some cross-analysis (with the difficulty of variability in experiences, especially for Amazon Annie, still an issue though obviously). Edit: Looking again at post 1, and what is said on the Mahea thread, does give credence to Mahea being a group, or two 'levels' higher on the left than right maybe. So potentially comparable to Tia or even better than her on that arm (pending what is said about the comparison between Mahea and Cynthia maybe, and with the possibility Mahea is getting stronger and better at it still, on that arm especially!) Last edited by Armwrestlefan99; 14-Mar-18 at 18:05. |
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Some next levels underneath that were Mahea, at least on the left it took me some effort. Anat was similar in strength on both arms, I never felt like I was going to lose, but it was tough to take her down. Redd from SF also actually caught me by surprise and beat me left handed, but a rematch I won reasonable easier. Annie honestly was pretty easy for me to beat, which was surprising. But she may have been tired, off-form or not in peak condition. She was definitely super strong with leg wrestling and regular wrestling. |
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