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I agree with above post.
Of course, the famous Supreme Court justice said he could not define pornography, but knew it when he saw it. This must be the attitude of You Tube.
However--if there's no nudity, no explicit sexual activity, let's agree to say that it's not porn. And this was the case with the video You Tube deleted.

I can't say what Youtube does to censor, as I don't work there, but I think it's more automatic than that. Number of complaints filed, and perhaps some kind of video recognition system if it's a repeat of another video that was flagged. Probably some word recognition.

I don't think they hired a bunch of prudish 60 year olds to go through and remove videos based on content. That seems improbable.
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I guess, unlike the famous Justice, you can tell use EXACTLY what porn is.
I have already described the video which was taken down. Here is a screenshot:
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I don't think they hired a bunch of prudish 60 year olds to go through and remove videos based on content. That seems improbable.
To be honest with you, kids nowadays are more prudish then we were in the 70's or 80's. I wouldn't think its 60 yr olds unless they're part of the religious right.
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Clips4sale calls itself an amateur porn site. It is porn. There's nothing to debate on this one.
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I don't know what the video in question was like. If you're talking about some real mixed wrestling video, like some high-school or college-level type thing, where they're fully-clothed and it's not just a bunch of scissorholds, sure, that's not porn.

If you're talking about a grapplinggirls or scissorvixens video where the girl is wearing booty shorts and a sports bra (or less), and holding some little twig in a scissorhold for 10-30 minutes (you know, his face right up in her ass), it's definitely porn. Especially when they're marketing on clips4sale (a porn website), targeted at horny addicted men, or on their own websites through CCbill, a discreet(?) billing site for adult content. Lie to yourself about it not being porn if you want, but you're not fooling anyone else.
That logic is the equivalent of calling Hooters a strip club. Sorry, but being distributed on Clips4sale is not a sole measure of classifying something as "porn". Believe whatever you want, but no rational person would classify men sucking on women's toes as "porn", or women kneeing men in the crotch, or walking on top of them in high heels, lift and every other fetish imagineable. Yes, true pornographic material is distributed through those various chains but there is a line drawn, perhaps a fine line at times, but there is a line. LUSA made the local newspaper when it was discovered that the town's beauty pageant winner had engaged in questionable conduct having made videos for a FETISH website. Nobody accused her of being a porn queen. Again, that being said, I have no problem with YouTube removing the stuff, especially the overtly sexual mixed wrestling with men's heads up the girls asses as you say, but let's not get carried away with prudish generalizations here either.
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Clips4sale calls itself an amateur porn site. It is porn. There's nothing to debate on this one.
Sure, that's because it contains pornographic material, what else would you expect it to say? Doesn't change the fact that there is more than porn on the site that would be considered purely fetish oriented. So "Kicking Girls" is porn to you? Grappling Girls? Seriously? Ok, you're right, no sense in debating anymore, not sure how else I can articulate the difference to you. I'm pretty sure most of the ladies shooting these videos and offering session wrestling out there would beg to differ with your generalization of their work.
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You can tell yourself what you like. Most people around here jerk off to the fetish material, and don't have any interest in watching vanilla porn.

Actually I've sessioned with girls who refer to the wrestling websites as porn. Maybe some of the girls GG recruits are naive enough to think it's about athleticism. Any of them who sticks around long enough learns it's all about sexuality -- they get tons of creepy messages from men, realize only men buy the stuff (with very few exceptions), and so on. There's nothing athletically impressive about a 5' 9", 180 lb girl taking down a 5' 2", 110 lb male.

There's a reason most of these "wrestling" videos are just a bunch of scissorholds. Sticking your head between a woman's legs is very sexual.
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sexual ≠ porn

All porn is sexual. Not all sexual content is porn.
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That logic is the equivalent of calling Hooters a strip club. Sorry, but being distributed on Clips4sale is not a sole measure of classifying something as "porn". Believe whatever you want, but no rational person would classify men sucking on women's toes as "porn", or women kneeing men in the crotch, or walking on top of them in high heels, lift and every other fetish imagineable. Yes, true pornographic material is distributed through those various chains but there is a line drawn, perhaps a fine line at times, but there is a line. LUSA made the local newspaper when it was discovered that the town's beauty pageant winner had engaged in questionable conduct having made videos for a FETISH website. Nobody accused her of being a porn queen. Again, that being said, I have no problem with YouTube removing the stuff, especially the overtly sexual mixed wrestling with men's heads up the girls asses as you say, but let's not get carried away with prudish generalizations here either.
Do you remember which girl was the beauty pageant winner?
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The content people of this forum seek (with the exception of @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] of course) is sexual, and it is fetishistic. The fetish is in the sexualization of an activity that is not sexual by itself - wrestling / fighting. However, it is not pornographic most of the time. But some of the time it is: ultimate-surrender, naked wrestling, facesitting etc.

The common understanding of pornography is that of depiction of explicit sexual behavior. This explicitness here has to be universal, meaning that most people would immediately recognize it as sexually explicit upon seeing it. Such acts include vaginal, anal, oral sex, fisting, etc. But... It is important to remember that pornography does not refer to a certain act, but to its depiction. That's why it always depends on the depiction whether something is considered pornographic. The explicitness of the action is defined by the depiction. Ie, if you see genitalia during a sex scene, it is pornography. If you only see one person's back thrusting up and down, it's not pornography, although the act remains the same.

That is the common understanding of pornography. It is not robustly defined by anything - law, language, - and the definition changes as times change. The word itself is there for censorship purposes. It's a dumb word, to be honest, and it is going away, as humanity's attitude towards sexuality changes. It does not identify anything in particular. That's why the US supreme court judge's words are still popular and quoted so much.
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