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I was first tempted to say "sure!" but then I considered the mechanics. Only if you are extending the arms would it really be an "arm scissor" - like trying to bring your elbows closer together, lengthening your arms, reaching your hands away from you (triceps, chest, push) But in the usual bearhug, you are pulling the person in toward you, bending the arms (elbow flexion), with your hands moving closer toward you and your elbows moving away from each other (biceps, back, pull). Relative to the person performing the movement: arm scissors compresses from the "sides" ("right-left coming together") while bearhug compresses from the "front-back." This is a great echo to the triangle/scissors discussion Nice, Stymie! |
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Grappling as far as I know is a martial art. In the context of wrestling terminology, what is considered a triangle is a called a figurefour headscissors.That is what I was refering to, I didn`t intend to give out the impression that I was saying that a triangle is called a headscissors in martial arts circles and neither is it what I said. In response to the bearhug joke; a scissors is a term that implies use of the legs. In wrestling a bearhug with the legs is called a bodyscissors In a wrestling context (just to clarify in advance what I`m saying), in that context the term "scissor" is generic with many different variations that include the triangle choke. Here is a link to a martial art forum discussion on the topic. Maybe they will have a little more crediblity with you then I do. [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] Last edited by bruce911187; 31-Jan-15 at 22:31. |
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You did say: "A triangle choke is scissors by another name." That statement would mean that a triangle choke is a scissors. It is just being called by another name. Like the Lockdown is the Scorpion by another name (two names for the same variation of half guard). Or, more mundanely, "sneakers" (US) are "trainers" (UK) by another name. So, you are saying that a triangle choke (the "sankaku-jime" in Japanese and judo) is a scissors (the "Do-jime" in Japanese), is that correct? Sankaku-jime is a Do-jime by another name???? Just to be clear, that is what you meant by that above statement, yes? Because it DOES give the impression that you were saying a triangle choke is "a headscissors by another name." @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] |
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Triangle choke, figure-four scissors ("triangle scissors"), and scissors are all different positions which have different names for a reason: so we can have the most clear idea of what we're discussing at any given time. A related example: If I call a "single-leg Boston Crab" simply a "Boston Crab," people wouldn't expect to see a single-leg Boston Crab by default (and some might get miffed). If I talk about a "Scissors Video" that is actually nothing but Triangle Chokes without a single actual leg-extending scissorhold, well, that wouldn't be very good at all. Do you see what I'm getting at? Quote:
It doesn't come across as very academic, technical, or invested in discussing terminology (as we are doing here). Furthermore, it is discussing using striking and biting. I'm sorry, but that thread is not a very reliable reference source for this wrestling/grappling discussion. EDIT: Also, it's just screaming at me - why do you feel that referencing a Krav Maga forum is more relevant than referencing anything from judo, jiujitsu, submission grappling, or amateur/freestyle wrestling? For all that you say you don't like "martial arts", why are you using Krav Maga (of all things!) as a reference in an argument you are making "in the context of wrestling"? That's so wild! Whew, ok, enough derailing from me!! Last edited by DiabloNYC; 01-Feb-15 at 00:07. Reason: combining 2 posts into 1 and cleaning. |
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Based on past conversation I would have thought you to be better then this petty game playing with my words. Kinda lame. |
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