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Hi All

Been a long time lurker here with My bf, we occasionally comment in some of the lovely threads on here.
After some talking we wanted to extend our infatuations with the community here!

To keep it short: Has anyone else noticed or enjoys that mostly/sometimes very often only male characters die in movies/tv shows/ video games?

I was not explicitly aware of this for most of My life, until My bf had pointed it out and expressed that it excited him in many ways. He (we both do) enjoys the idea that Women are special and sacred and males are disposable and expendable.. its tied into a lot of our foreplay, and is an erotic source for fantasy for us.

Its bizarre, and apologies if this offends some of you- we donít wish violence or suffering on anyone!! Just fantasy

Anyway, would love to discuss this further with you all and hopefully share stories/fantasies and material on the theme

***Also apologies if this isnít the correct forum- we chose ďArtĒ because this relates to a more general discussion of representations in movies, tv, etc..
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Hi All

Been a long time lurker here with My bf, we occasionally comment in some of the lovely threads on here.
After some talking we wanted to extend our infatuations with the community here!

To keep it short: Has anyone else noticed or enjoys that mostly/sometimes very often only male characters die in movies/tv shows/ video games?

I was not explicitly aware of this for most of My life, until My bf had pointed it out and expressed that it excited him in many ways. He (we both do) enjoys the idea that Women are special and sacred and males are disposable and expendable.. its tied into a lot of our foreplay, and is an erotic source for fantasy for us.

Its bizarre, and apologies if this offends some of you- we donít wish violence or suffering on anyone!! Just fantasy

Anyway, would love to discuss this further with you all and hopefully share stories/fantasies and material on the theme

***Also apologies if this isnít the correct forum- we chose ďArtĒ because this relates to a more general discussion of representations in movies, tv, etc..
Hi Slayergirl, we meet again. Glad to know you are a member here on MvsF
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Old 13-Jul-18, 15:24
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Care to share any of your thoughts on the matter?
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Hey Slayergirl,

You should ask Zweig to move this thread into the discussion forum.


I really feel that the femme fatale,succubus,black widow,executrix etc. has potential to become a huge fetish if was marketed correctly. I believe a lot of men and women are into it but its kind of a cultural taboo. I feel the key to unlocking its potential is making videos that focus on the seduction/deception rather than the violence. To me its about highlighting feminine attributes that males do not possess.

You can find femme fatale stories and characters all throughout history- even the bible is chock full of femme fatale that destroy men mercilessly.


I plan on starting a studio filming videos that revolve around the subject. Hopefully by this time next year I will have the time to pursue with everything I've got. I recently invested in a business with my best friend and it is taking up most of my time and money at the moment. Once I have that settled, I will move on to this dream project of mine.

I have literally dozens of stories on my computer(all in various states of progress) that explore every scenario you could imagine on this subject.

One of my favorites that I have written is called "Latrocinium". Its about a secret society of lesbian femme fatale hellbent on destroying the male dominated society. The first story focuses on a married femme fatale couple that seeks out a male for breeding purposes and then snuffs him after they take his seed from him. I cobbled together the story with photos of the models Wenona and Skylar Rene. I really like it because it weaves together the themes of life and death.

I'll post some of the pictures below as a preview(It isn't finished and I have absolutely no idea when I'll get around to wrapping it up.)
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I really feel that the femme fatale,succubus,black widow,executrix etc. has potential to become a huge fetish if was marketed correctly. I believe a lot of men and women are into it but its kind of a cultural taboo. I feel the key to unlocking its potential is making videos that focus on the seduction/deception rather than the violence. To me its about highlighting feminine attributes that males do not possess.
It is weirdly taboo even though there are a lot of examples of it in art and entertainment, often even a tongue in cheek concept.. but to us its incredibly erotic and liberating to indulge in the fantasies
Seeing overt representations of disposable males juxtaposed to Female power, beauty, innocence, sexuality etc. really triggers something deeply erotic..

Even seeing situations where its more of a good guy vs bad guy situation and the bad Girl is forgiven or taught a lesson in the error of Her ways whereas Her male counterpart and the other goons are disposed of mercilessly is pretty hot. Women getting special treatment is a nice tease against males

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I plan on starting a studio filming videos that revolve around the subject. Hopefully by this time next year I will have the time to pursue with everything I've got. I recently invested in a business with my best friend and it is taking up most of my time and money at the moment. Once I have that settled, I will move on to this dream project of mine.
That would be incredible!!!

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I have literally dozens of stories on my computer(all in various states of progress) that explore every scenario you could imagine on this subject.
My bf and I always role play and try and write story ideas together with these themes, usually ideas for big budget porn films and stuff Lol

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One of my favorites that I have written is called "Latrocinium". Its about a secret society of lesbian femme fatale hellbent on destroying the male dominated society. The first story focuses on a married femme fatale couple that seeks out a male for breeding purposes and then snuffs him after they take his seed from him. I cobbled together the story with photos of the models Wenona and Skylar Rene. I really like it because it weaves together the themes of life and death.

I'll post some of the pictures below as a preview(It isn't finished and I have absolutely no idea when I'll get around to wrapping it up.)

Wow just these two are really great! We adored you other story "Jayden Lee", I hope you keep working at it and would love for you to share more when you can!
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slayergirl, this may be of interest
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Also, PBS runs a British murder/mystery series entitled "Endeavour"
and this years Season 5 episode 1 "The Muse" deals with a series of
brutal/graphic murders of males by a female [spoiler alert] that mimic
great works of art.
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A nicely written post that expresses a lot of how I developed a fetish for women being dominated, as a reverse of the usual status quo, to see them "treated as men". It's been accentuated by media having a tendency to always portray women as beating up dudes whenever there's a mvf fight to the point it's painfully predictable.
Meanwhile any time i find a decent mvf fight where the man really dominates, they tend to get removed with lightning fast speed (not just on youtube but on fetish and porn sites in general, whereas again fvm beatdowns seem a lot more tolerated).

In particular I remember from early youtube days a scene where some mr miyagi style old martial artist is in some sort of cage fight. His opponent was a very beautiful brunette woman acting all cocky, like she knew that women always beat men in film fights so she had it in the bag.
Not mr miyagi is protesting to the organizer "i can't fight a woman".
The girl walks up to him confidently, and punches him hard, and smiles.
The dude looks stunned...Then goes APESHIT and gives this epic brutedown, utterly raining punches to this pretty girls face and body.
After a few seconds of street fighter combos she just collapses all defeated and bruised.

This vid barely lasted 3 days before being removed and i never saw it again xD Meanwhile other saved videos i have where women super beat up guys are still there.
Things like that kinda stuck with me. Between this and a tendency for there to be outrage or special attention when a woman is treated as harshly as dudes are, all reinforced the notion that male on female violence and domination was special and more taboo, whereas women dominating men is more socially acceptable so easier to find.

It's also why I developed a slight fetish for (simulated of course, i abhor real life violence, the fact I actually feel the need to say this kinda says it all when i've seen people on this site openly admit they love see men getting abused in real life, like with shefights) violent scenes, leading into gore territory (again i don't know why i feel awkward admitting this when plenty on this site enjoy hardcore stuff like alvaro diego art showing amazons castrate and kill dudes).

Tbh I think OP being female plays a massive part into the post being well received.
I feel like if you talk about this as a guy, other guys get VERY hostile and touchy about this or just assume the worst of you.
At least I remember when this site was still young, any topics i browsed on women being dominated tended to draw lots of people acting all macho and defensive, probably a big reason why I ended up being a lurker more then an active contributor on this site (though I think things changed a lot since then, still threads like "sometimes the men win" tend to be the rare exception).
Funnily enough I find women tend to be a bit more open minded on this topic but maybe that's just my personal experiences.

I'd just like to add I actually enjoy both women and men dominated (i guess i just find the idea of fighting for sexual domination hot) but because I get the perception that it's almost always women who get the win, I tend to value more scenes of male domination or reverse situations where it's the woman who is treated as expendable and disposable.

Anyways so yeah, that's how observation to the same observed phenomenon resulted in the opposite fetish for me.

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A nicely written post that expresses a lot of how I developed a fetish for women being dominated, as a reverse of the usual status quo, to see them "treated as men". It's been accentuated by media having a tendency to always portray women as beating up dudes whenever there's a mvf fight to the point it's painfully predictable.
Meanwhile any time i find a decent mvf fight where the man really dominates, they tend to get removed with lightning fast speed (not just on youtube but on fetish and porn sites in general, whereas again fvm beatdowns seem a lot more tolerated).

Thanks for the post, I actually enjoyed reading your perspective on this. I know this is a very controversial fetish and
I'll try my best to respond to every point you brought up.



This fetish is undoubtedly a double standard. I don't deny that.
The reason why I tolerate having a double standard is because
I believe that there are massive differences between men and women.
Men are wired differently than women when it comes to violence.
Therefore I believe that certain fetishes like graphic violence against women can be potentially dangerous.
This forum has seen debates about the incest fetish time and time again; some people say
its harmless, some people like me say that is abhorrent and fosters unhealthy sexual proclivities that could lead to real life consequences.
Obviously, that makes me look like a complete fucking hypocrite considering that I am completely swallowed whole
by a fetish that involves women brutally killing men.
But people have to understand that there are rationales behind my opinions and beliefs on this. It all comes back to the differences between men and women.
I think men need to be careful when indulging in fantasies that involve violence against women.
I mean that with all due respect and I don't mean to say that you're someone
who has any unhealthy tendencies.
Bottom line for me- Males are hardwired to be violent and society has to have cultural mechanisms
and tenets that channel it properly. Watching males beating females with their physical strength is not something I'm into.


Some people would probably get the impression that I'm a misandrist or a feminist- I'm really not.
I actually love masculinity and its attributes.
I love ultra machismo movies like Goodfellas or Braveheart that highlight masculine traits.
Western society seems to have quietly declared war on masculinity in recent years which really bothers me to be honest.
For example, the "gender neutral" stuff in my opinion is a very obvious attack on masculinity
and I am adamantly opposed to it. I think its an extraordinarily
misguided attempt at bringing about equity in our society that
goes against the laws of nature. Society would be much better
off just accepting the basic truths rather than pursuing a utopia.
In my stories, men are not portrayed as weak. They are portrayed as
strong alpha males who get destroyed by even stronger and more cunning
women who know how to manipulate them with precision.


I hope I didn't come across as sanctimonious over this post as that was not my intention. There is a lot of grey area on this
subject and I'm more than willing to hear out other opinions.

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I hope I didn't come across as sanctimonious over this post as that was not my intention. There is a lot of grey area on this
subject and I'm more than willing to hear out other opinions.
Ha don't worry about that, usually when saying these things I expect a lot more of a hostile reaction, I've seen people get really touchy about this topic.

Yeh to the double standards, especially when contrasted to a general attack on masculinity. It leads to this weird vibe where it seems media pushes for "equality" that doesn't really feel like equality and this feeling of double standards helps fuel my fetishes. After seeing yet another fvm fight in media where the chick effortlessly beats up ton of dudes or humiliates them or w/e whilst being sassy and cocky, kinda makes one wish to see the tables turned and is the main impetus for my fetish.

I can't say I really agree on your view about how dudes are hard wired to view violence though and I am extremely skeptical that has any root in psychology. Just seems to me that is something more due to upbringing and social and cultural imperatives and norms, I've met too many violent women who would use violence happily if they felt they could get away with it, just like i've met many completely passive dudes incapable of harming a fly. Heck i've met some very crazy aggressive women who i'd definitely classify as "dangerous", more so then the vast majority of dudes i've met. So yeah I simply can't agree to your assertion.

There might be general trends, but individual differences matter and the argument if you indulge/fantasize about x thing you shouldn't do irl is one that has been used frequently to rabble rouse and control and dominate others but has yet to be proven to have any credence in psychology that I know off.. One could just as easily say the same about the femme fatale stuff after all, how it emboldens young women and teaches them it's ok to be deceptive and destructive with men because they are goddesses who can get away with anything, that the femme fatale trope is damaging to the very fabric of a moral society!
And indeed I could probably find some women who are like that, sadly, but does that justify total censorship? Having to control everyone because of a few mentally ill people?
Nah of course not, and besides life would be very dull imo if we just censored everything out of fear some dude or chick with mental illness takes things too far. Look at UK and how they banned facesitting and other stuff because of this exact sort of reasoning...

There's nothing wrong with indulging your dark side a bit if you're a fully functioning human capable of separating reality from fantasy. So whilst I enjoy what I enjoy, a good chunk of my best friends are women (who are into "ryona" and similar stuff even harder then i am and i actually get most of my links from them..) and i am quite happy to keep these dark fantasies within the realm of fantasy, the thought of practicing them irl is abbhorent to me.

Since I don't think I'm special, I assume this is possible for most people in this world and it's how I view other people with fetishes I might find personally offensive (some of my big nonos for example: anything to do with minors, and yet on this site people routinely post vids of kids wrestling or what and i highly doubt they even asked for consent there ).
Can't comment on the incest thing, am a single child so simply don't get it. But yeah, in conclusion " x is abhorrent and fosters unhealthy sexual proclivities that could lead to real life consequences" can be applied to any non vanilla fetish imo.

Otherwise as for others thinking of you as a feminist, to me definitely come off as macho/traditionally masculine oriented xP
And I mean that in a good way, especially as you don't feel the need to puff up and be insulting, that is the mark of a secure dude imo with nothing to prove.
I think one of the key tells is I can basically crudely sum up your reasoning behind it as "women are NOT as strong as dudes and need to be protected", the first part being the key distinction from your stereotypical twitter "feminist" (the " " because i honestly don't know wtf a feminist is any more). You like traditional gender roles it seems, probably a big part of why you like the femme fatale stuff since that trope plays up on what is seen as traditional feminine qualities, as you've remarked yourself. 100% respect it and can even dig it myself from time to time.

Personally I see myself as an egalitarian. Was raised by a grandma who got herself a job and taught herself to drive at an age where women were discouraged to do so yet she taught me not to get duped by random girls who might be looking to manipulate me. To be a gentleman without being a doormat if you catch my drift.
Then found myself in a boarding school and pretty much all my classmates were women, as i grew up i found i naturally tended to have a lot more female friends. Those female friends did a lot to "unstiff" me and well, it helped me become the person I am today I guess. Anyways I guess this helps explain why depending on mood I enjoy Mvf or FvM, dominance or abuse.

Do agree with your views on how media tends to attack masculinity so nothing to add to that other then media also attacks traditional feminity too (seeing as how femme fatales depend on that it's of particular concern for you i imagine). FFS in the past few days alone my lovely friends linked me stuff about the new She-ra make over (she is a butch lesbian now) or how Supergirl is going to be played by a trans actor or how Batgirl is going to be a social justice advocate and is also a lesbian, because of course. This kinda stuff is just non stop it seems and media tells me I'm meant to be cheering for this because...reasons.

Otherwise I like the concept of your stories :P
Apologies if this is all ranty and unstructured. Also hate how even though I don't want to, a bit of rl politics creeped into this rant but I guess when politics and media become so intertwined it's just impossible to mention one without mentioning the other...

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Yes, I noticed that and to be honest a little bit of politics in last years is probably one of the reasons why it's so common...
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