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The Vault...now THAT was a true NYC experience!
Dark, gritty and underground. The rents in Manhattan are outrageous and it's a shame that there are no good wrestling or fetish parties here anymore. (or very few.) |
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Thanks @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
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I'm working with my contacts in the alt community in Brooklyn, but it will take a little time to build up for a party (see @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] 's post for discussion on community building), but I am going forward with the outreach efforts. For a live event - like a live filming event, that is "easier" to put together. We're juggling a lot of filming right now, but event planning remains on the To-Do. But also, do you guys know Thrash? He's a fellow we work with. Do you guys know the "new" dungeon called Parthenon? It's in Manhattan, midtown around 5th Ave somewhere. Thrash has been recommending we check out the parties at Parthenon (and you all NYC guys should too). Apparently it's a nice space, with fetish parties with a good turn-out. I know some wrestlers have done sessions there, so there is possibly [I]some[I] potential for wrestling. I'll have to check it out myself. (Maybe @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] wants to as well?) Guys, you're party-desires are great. I'm often bogged down with production-related work, but just keep asking about parties/events/etc., and we'll keep on truckin. Keep asking, keep encouraging. And keep your eye out - we may be presenting at TES this year. |
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Indeed, like the others your remarks bear grim affirmation to the decline of the whole scene and genre. To the absorption of erotic female wrestling by the soft porn industry and the faked products it produces and to the absorption of real women`s wrestling by the martial arts crowd. Catch is simply womens grappling by another name, which isn`t all bad I do admit. I do respect the martial art for preserving something real about it all. I don`t dispute your facts just your conclusion when you say it is impossible. It was here before and it was vibrant and thriving. It`s a man`s world and man can make it happen if he wants. [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] |
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She's saying that creating "real" organic experiences requires first the creation of a community. A live, in-person community. But the fostering of that community takes time, and, I daresay, requires a different motivation than wanting to create real wrestling moments. If you reach for it, it will be so hard to catch, but if you stop reaching... do you know what I mean? This is what she was aiming at. Last edited by DiabloNYC; 31-Jan-15 at 13:12. Reason: adding quote |
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Well, I see Diablo already helpfully stepped in and interpreted my post for you. Yes, indeed, I was saying that you can't force one of those special moments when "real" wrestling happens. By "real" I meant a match that's more than a performance or a job to the combatants, that really matters to them, and where the audience can feel that extra energy. I wasn't saying that type of match is impossible, just that it can only be brought about indirectly by nurturing a scene where it can happen. But if your definition of "real" is different -- if, for example, your definition is "a match with no martial arts" or "a match with X rules in X style" -- I can definitely see how we would disagree. You're right; anyone can hire (and, if he's passionate enough, train) women to do that style of match all day long. That's the "pure-professional" vs. community-based approach I was talking about. You're right; in a man's world (the goading was cute), it's very easy to get women as performers. In a shared world, though, there's potential for women as performers but also as participants. It's all about what you want. I was also saying that in my definition of "real" a match wouldn't have a predetermined look or style. I would see imposing those restrictions as making it less real since they might not reflect the women's own skills and inclinations. But that may be another way we disagree about "real." Good news: both our definitions of "real" are possible, through different methods. The world's big enough for both. |
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