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Old 07-Aug-17, 03:08
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Default Re: How did Goldeneye affect you?

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Better description than I could give. Did you also notice that after defeating the guy in the first fight, she pulls off his tie and uses it to tie him up.

Similar with her second fight, the guy goes after her with a golf club, she (easily) takes it from his hand and then throws/kicks him to floor while still holding the golf club.

Then, a few minutes later, Cory enters the room and toys with the same guy some more before overhead pressing him and then breaking his neck after dominating him. Talk about a bad day for his character "Porter"
Thanks and it's great to hear from a like minded fan of this great gem.

Yes - I think the action in all of these scenes make it clear that the men pose little to no threat whatsoever and Marjean/Cory can do whatever they want with them.

Obviously Cory - being the bad girl - isn't bound by the same morals and limits and illustrates this best by ending the guy's life with her bare hands without breaking a sweat.

I love how she launches him over her shoulder, over the counter and then "saunters" around after him, slowly advancing on him in her high heels and miniskirt to continue breaking him down. He ultimately resorts to pleading with her, but it's to no avail and he is powerless to stop her ending his existence. Even after his death, she spins him in that chair to add a final kiss of humiliation.

What really elevate these scenes are the subtle touches.
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Old 07-Aug-17, 12:24
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Default Re: How did Goldeneye affect you?

Interestingly enough, I read the Xenia Onatopp scene in the novelization before I ever saw it on screen. The novelization went into a lot more graphic detail about the Admiral's death, actually describing the "horrible sound of ribs crumbling" (word for word as best I can recall it.)

After that passage of the novelization, the filmed version was almost a let-down.
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Old 07-Aug-17, 15:09
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I'll have to buy a copy of the novel and read the Xenia scenes. It sounds pretty good.


Obviously I have posted a lot on the forum about how much I love Xenia's character. Her scenes in the movie had a massive impact on me. In a nutshell, I loved the idea of a woman using her sexual power to lure a man in and then destroy him. Xenia made it an extra special experience because she actually climaxed while doing the deed.

Its just incredibly erotic to me when a woman takes out a lover during a sexual embrace. The vulnerability and sudden betrayal is very intense.
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Old 07-Aug-17, 17:45
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Default Re: How did Goldeneye affect you?

I have a copy of the book of it and this is the exact wording:
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she felt the bones crack in his chest, with half her mind registering the inevitable crunching horror of ribs crumbling
Quite evocative indeed...

I think i saw the movie at the beginning of my adolescence and watching in secret the tape(my parents recorded most movies on tv at the time) at this particular moment again and again...
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This is from the Goldeneye novel by Gardner. At the casino it describes the Admiral as a tall handsome American. Obviously unlike the actor in the movie. Personally, I like that a lot more. I think its sexier when a woman takes down a stud instead of an out of shape old guy.


The main stateroom of Manticore was overtly designed for physical pleasure. It was a relatively larger cabin with an en suite bathroom big enough to sport a Jacuzzi and wall fittings that contained colourful bottles full of brand name oils and unguents, including those sensual edible oils sold as sexual aids - the ones that come in various flavours which enable partners to lick them from each other's bodies. The walls were decorated with erotic paintings and drawings, ulminatin~ with a huge oil directly over the bed depicting in all its detail a modern view of a Roman orgy. The lights were dimmed and there was a scent of musk in the air, while from some hidden source came a soft lush melody played on what sounded like a thousand strings. On the bed itself, late on this warm and luxurious evening, Xenia Onatopp coupled with Admiral Chuck Farrel who was slowly understanding that he had never had it so good. She had taken control almost before locking the door to the stateroom and telling him that nobody would disturb them.

She had stripped him, pushed him back onto the great bed and said -"For this one night, Chuck, I want you to enjoy me fully. Think of me as the ultimate pinnacle of your sexual dreams." She had slowly undressed for him, gently revealing her body, not in the vulgar grind of a striptease artist, but with the flair and professionalism of a ballerina. Each movement seemed to have been choreographed just for him, and at last when she was totally naked she came to him, whispering in his ear, rousing him almost to a frenzy, helping him, instructing him as a perfect body slave until he became pliable, and left with a sense that he owed her a great sexual experience. It was then that she began a true domination of him: straddling his body and riding him, goading him onwards until their sweat mingled and he was completely at her mercy. He cried out as he reached his summit for the third time in two hours, and, as he did so, she made a quick subtle movement with her thighs, flipping him over so that he lay face downwards on the bed. With soft, soothing words she began to wrap her strong legs around his body, moving slightly so that eventually she held him in a scissors grip, her thighs wrapped around his chest, slowly loosening and tightening her hold in a manner which made him gasp with pleasure until she suddenly began tensing the muscles as though she were attempting to draw his entire body into hers. He gasped and cried out - Xenia No. I can't breathe I. No.. It was doubtful if she even heard him as she flexed the muscles even tighter. This was the technique of a boa constrictor and she felt the bones crack in his chest, with half her mind registering the inevitable crunching horror of ribs crumbling. At the moment of his asphyxiation Xenia Onatopp cried out in her own final and conclusive orgasm - Yes Ahhhhh Yes! Yes! ... Yeeeessssss!" It was a technique she had used many times during her life, and her masters knew how effective she could be. A secret weapon like a spider who consumes its mate after the sex act. She swayed to and fro, still rubbing herself against his corpse, moaning and supremely satisfied in her moment of glory. She flicked the dead body onto its back, then slowly unwound herself, as though woken from a trance by the soft knock on the stateroom door. She opened up, unconcerned about her nakedness. A familiar figure stood in the doorway. "The spider and the admiral, huh?" the man said as he gently took her in his arms and rocked her as one will lull a child into comfort or sleep.

Silently, Bond moved along the passage until he came to an ornate sliding carved wooden door. Gently he tried the handle. The door swung open, and he slipped inside, closing it behind him. He was in a bedroom given over to sensuality: a mirrored ceiling, erotica on the walls and the scent of death reaching his nostrils before he saw the shattered body on the bed. The ports were open, but the incoming breeze did nothing to disperse the odour he had smelled too many times in his life, and there, sprawled hideously on the bed, was the naked and broken body of Rear Admiral Chuck Farrel. In death his face was not in repose. The eyes were fixed on his reflection in the mirror above the bed, his mouth contorted in a wide open grimace as though he had died in some kind of revolting ecstasy.
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Old 08-Aug-17, 07:01
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Default Re: How did Goldeneye affect you?

Wasn't there a scene in the movie Moonranker where a woman kicks the crap out of a few guys too?
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That was interesting. In my opinion, it could have been so much were it not so implausible. Maybe if she were Wonder Woman
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For me personally I would have preferred that Xenia was a “good girl” who used her scissors technique on a high number of bad guys. Now THAT, coupled with female audience members cheering and laughing as one male soldier after another is easily defeated by her killer legs is an almost overwhelmingly exciting thought.
But that’s just me, I prefer the dominating women to be the “good guys”, and so OCTOPUSSY – with that all-girl, acrobatic army of spandex-clad heroines – was the Bond film that awakened me to the incredibly intense thrill of females defeating and humiliating males. It’s almost amusing thinking about it now: my male pride was hugely pissed off at the Octopussy girls’ easy victory over the male guards. But during this scene, my male member betrayed my male pride (!). It quickly rose to full wood to “cheer” every high kick, cartwheel kick, ballbust, and every other moment of acrobatic domination.
This edit of the Octopussy scene is really good. Taking Bond and Q out of the scene, so we can entirely enjoy the female domination: [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
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Probably Bambi and Thumper for me when I was around 12. I also remember another bond film which referenced a female assassin who strangled her victims with her thighs. We never saw any kills unfortunately though. As for Goldeneye, I did find it exciting but for me it's all about being strangled with the headscissors.
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Probably Bambi and Thumper for me when I was around 12. I also remember another bond film which referenced a female assassin who strangled her victims with her thighs. We never saw any kills unfortunately though. As for Goldeneye, I did find it exciting but for me it's all about being strangled with the headscissors.
Yep I'm with you, Bambi and Thumper were definitely a lot better than Xenia IMHO. The other film you were thinking of was The Living Daylights.
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