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View Poll Results: What do most session providers gross per year?
Well above average (120,000+) 15 13.39%
Above average (70,000-119,999) 23 20.54%
Average (50,000-69,999) 36 32.14%
Below average (35,000-49,999) 21 18.75%
Well below average (less than 35,000) 17 15.18%
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Old 05-Mar-19, 05:59
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Default How much do you think session wrestlers make/year?

I know one of the mantras I repeat here often is "don't count other people's money", but every time the subject is broached, it seems the vocal public has a very high valuation on providers' collective earning power by U.S. standards.

Of the women for whom sessions are their primary income, what do you believe the providers earn per year on average from sessions and related activities (videos, fetish parties, etc)?
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Old 05-Mar-19, 17:46
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Default Re: How much do you think session wrestlers make/year?

I am surprise most guys think session wrestlers are swimming in money... I am not sure about the top, full time ladies, but I have the chance to share about this topic with a few and most seems to struggle to make a decent living doing sessions. One of the reasons for travels is to make extra money since there is a limited amount of customers in each city, also there is more competition now than a few years back, not only from real athletes but from models and Dommes (dominatrixes I believe make more money since they charge more for a wide variety of services). Like someone say before, for every 20 weekly e-mails, maybe one or two is worth anything (my blocked list number is in the hundreds). In my case, fortunately I do have my profession as an artist and this is just a side hobby and the extra $ just goes for training expenses (Kimonos, academy fees etc). My ultimate goal is to open my own Jiu-jitsu school in the near future. So to answer the survey, I will say the majority make much less than $35k a year. (my speculation of course).
I forgot to mention, as I said before, in my own case, I notice there is not consistency in sessions month to month. One month can be extremely busy with lots of sessions and next month can be very slow with only a few.

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Default Re: How much do you think session wrestlers make/year?

10/wk x 35 weeks x $200 = $70,000

Is that out of line as an average?
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I know one of the mantras I repeat here often is "don't count other people's money", but every time the subject is broached, it seems the vocal public has a very high valuation on providers' collective earning power by U.S. standards.

Of the women for whom sessions are their primary income, what do you believe the providers earn per year on average from sessions and related activities (videos, fetish parties, etc)?
Honestly, I think we all shouldnīt care and think of it too much. I hope they all make enough to have a good and decent living, but itīs just none of our business.
Just as most of us wouldnīt want others (including their favorite session girls) to know what we earn, we should just respect their privacy as well.
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10/wk x 35 weeks x $200 = $70,000

Is that out of line as an average?
I've not wanted to join this thread, though I may have gotten it started by an answer in the other, but I think 10/wk or 350 a year is high. There are ladies on session girls who don't have a single review and I'm supposed to believe they've done hundreds of sessions?

I'm sure that well known ladies in demand may do that many or more, if their bodies can handle it, but if we're talking on average, I think a lot of people are estimating high. I've heard stories about ladies who do a trip and only get like 1 session a day and barely break even.

I also feel that looking too much into another person's income is rude. I don't remember why I posted it in the first place, but my intent wasn't to investigate what they might make.
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I am surprise most guys think session wrestlers are swimming in money... I am not sure about the top, full time ladies, but I have the chance to share about this topic with a few and most seems to struggle to make a decent living doing sessions.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. The reason for the question is that I keep seeing assumption repeated and when a false assumption goes unchecked and is repeated enough, it can become the "truth"...which can lead to a whole host of other issues, all stemming from a false assumption, something that was "learned wrong".

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One month can be extremely busy with lots of sessions and next month can be very slow with only a few.
Yep, just like any business, there are ebbs and flows. And also like any other business, the session industry is subject to the market forces of supply and demand. If the economy is doing well, would-be clients may have more money available for premium services. That means more session business overall, but might also attract more providers. There's as much competition in this business as there is in most others.

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Because of the sample sizes we're talking about, it's all anecdotal, but for whatever reason, a lot of would-be clients are open about the fact that they've no-showed or canceled at the last minute and given the provider no compensation to help offset her losses. Obviously, kudos to the guys who do send something. But those who don't then post publicly statements like "she's making a ton of money anyway", etc. not taking into consideration that spending $3000 on flights, lodging, meals, ground transportation, etc means that the $8-10K in bookings she has for a week starts off with a net of just $5-10K and this is a once-a-year gig for her.
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Default Re: How much do you think session wrestlers make/year?

The question is a bit ambiguous because the wording implies median, but the choices use the term average. I was thinking average when I voted in the 50k-70k ranged but thinking median (half above, half below) I'd vote in the 35k-50k range and probably in the lower half of that. Average is going to be distorted by a few high end earners. On the other hand, median will be pulled down by girls who are not even actual wrestlers but have simply added a wrestling option to other services.
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Default Re: How much do you think session wrestlers make/year?

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.... My ultimate goal is to open my own Jiu-jitsu school in the near future. So to answer the survey, I will say the majority make much less than $35k a year. (my speculation of course)....
My estimations (around 50-70K) are considering specialy the full pro girls with a lot of travelling and filming!

It's clear that can start's from 5K and going for hardcore filmer and fighters till over 100K (but this is very seldom, maybe lesser 1 % ).
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Default Re: How much do you think session wrestlers make/year?

Yes, girls who do this full time and travel and shoot films make really good money. Also, some of them have sponsored sponsored some times, so they travel and do sessions without spending any money.
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Default Re: How much do you think session wrestlers make/year?

I believe the top earners make 100-200k +. But its a short time window and hard to maintain that consistenly year after year.
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