How can you stay anonymous when selling wrestlings pics/vids? Clips4sales?

[Naji]

Originally Posted by funwrestler [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

1/ What does appear on your personal bank account when yo ureceive payment by:
-Paypal?
- CCBill?

When you receive as a merchant? Not much. Just CCBill or PayPal.

Originally Posted by funwrestler [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

2/ Also, Clips4Sale present themselves as the #1 place for AMATEUR fetish & porn videos.
I am not a connoisseur here. Do they have competitors? Would you recommend any other good sites and why?

They do have competitors, but none come close in terms of traffic.

Originally Posted by funwrestler [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

3/ Not sure what they mean by "AMATEUR". Do customers go there to find AMATEURly produced content, with one single camera on a tripod, bad lighting, bad sound? ;-)

C4S is by design for home-made videos, for those who see it as a hobby, for a little extra money on the side.

If you are willing to invest in it as a business, both financially, and working full-time, you can still use c4s, but only as a secondary platform. Clips4sale, by being the middle-man, deprives you of the most valuable part of any business - your customers. You don't know who is buying, you don't know where individual purchases are coming from (referral-wise), you don't know your customers' emails since you don't have access to the mailing list. There is a mailing list of customers that signed up to your store, and you can send them mass e-mails through the admin interface, but you don't have access to it. If and when clips4sale ceases to exist for whatever reason, goodbye, business.

But if you want to produce and sell as a hobby, spending an hour or two max per-day on it, clips4sale is perfect, and especially so if you want anonymity.

[funwrestler]

Very interesting!

- How do people doing side money as a home-made business deal with the Taxes (IRS...)?

- What are the names of they competitors?

- Can't you just put a link in the mailing you send to your customers via C4S to route them toward a web site of yours?

- What would you (Zweig and any other here) recommend to someone willing to test how it goes with just a few videos?
a/ About the content: Just putting a camera in front of a bed and do some simple "try to escape my pin" match? Recommended duration?
b/ Selling price?
c/ How long before the first sale comes in?
d/ How long before reaching 10 sales? 30 sales?
e/ Setting up a dedicated bank account just to receive the CCBill payments?
f/ How to explain to the taxes where the money comes from?
g/ Looking back after a year to see you lost money when regarding at the net income after the C4S part and the taxes have been removed?
h/ Just keep doing for wrestling is your passion... ?

[funwrestler]

Zweig?
Lily?
Others?

[DelofMWP]

As to setting up a website, you can create an email address with whatever name you wish. With that and a debit card purchased, you can setup a domain and hosting account with that name. That would obscure your actual identity. Godaddy does not accept debit cards, but MANY hosting providers do.

True it is that C4S requires your real id for setting up a store. The sticky point is your bank. Just the same, they do seem to hold that tight. True enough that a hacker could theoretically break in and have the info. But even if so, its a stretch that it would be locatable by Google or other search engines. If a hacker were to publish the info, it would most likely be on the dark web. But really there would not be much incentive to do so.

There are plenty of light material masks that are useful.

It takes a while of dedicated effort to make money on C4S. As noted there are many stores. Still though it can bring about a bit of side money. Most important is to just have fun with it.

[stymie]

Doesn't C4S have a rule that clip sellers must charge at least $1 a minute...at least for shorter videos?
I'm surprised some of those stores don't use social media more to get customers. I remember when I posted a 1 minute sample from Gia's c4s store of her vs youtube guy on youtube. I also had a description and link to her store there. It got a crazy number of views, 60k or more, something like that in only a couple mos. at most. Yeah I know that's not a lot compared to other channels, and most youtubers are looking for freebies, but I'd like to think it brought in a few dozen customers at least. The video was eventually taken down, probably reported for content. I don't think Gia minded, she made a comment under the video, saying the full video was at her store. Fetish wrestling clips don't always last on youtube but I think it could be a good marketing tool for a determined poster.

[funwrestler]

Originally Posted by DelofMWP [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

With that and a debit card purchased, you can setup a domain and hosting account with that name. That would obscure your actual identity. Godaddy does not accept debit cards, but MANY hosting providers do.

I am not sure I understand "debi card purchased". Would that card be with your REAL name or a fake name?
I'm not sure we have that in Europe?
Can you please give examples of where to buy such cards online and names of a few hosting providers accepting debit cards?

Originally Posted by DelofMWP [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

There are plenty of light material masks that are useful.

Same, do you please have some concrete examples here? Links? Thanks.

[funwrestler]

Do you know if the same individual with the same account can own several, differents stores on Clips4Sale?