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Old 08-Apr-15, 02:31
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Default Re: Anyone else feel like newer "wrestling" videos are getting worse and worse?

I love real fighting, but have never been a fan of non-scissor chokes.
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Default Re: Anyone else feel like newer "wrestling" videos are getting worse and worse?

I guess it depends of what is your sub genre in the mixed wrestling fetish world.

If seeing woman wrestle is all you need, than you have more content than you can possibly absorb.

But, we have all become spoiled. We want, what we want.

I want to see real, ultimate surrender style mixed wrestling. Other, than a few experiments, not really happing yet.

The attempts that I have seen from the various producers really fall short.

Just want to see two equal size, male and female, naked, wrestle for sexual dominance, no script, competitive. We see it all the time in F vs F and in M vs M matches.

As I said, we all want, what we want...
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Old 13-Apr-15, 23:34
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Neither Bill Wick nor Premier Productions nor Athena had a lot of "BJJ stuff" and they still made great videos. Watching Thea or Tigra or Mysteria throw around guys, who were trying to defend themselves most of the time, was hot as hell! It was that ferocity and athleticism that made their videos stand out (ie. a visibly strong woman who truly wants to take down a guy).
This comes closest to the problem. There's a shortage of women like the above, so under the demand for a constant stream of new content you end up using models who aren't as strong and don't have enough grappling skill to make up the difference. A good video needs 1 of the 2. Kip at UE is better at this than most, it leads to only getting a few full videos a year but those few are great. The rest of the time you get clips, but at least he gets a lot of physique bb level girls so they're at least very strong. Then there are sites that happen to get a great model once in a while but only do a bit of work with her and then move onto 'the next one,' that constant new content thing.
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What or who is "Kip at UE"?
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Utopia Entertainment
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Default Re: Anyone else feel like newer "wrestling" videos are getting worse and worse?

It's a given that most matches are not fully competitive. But it doesn't have to be completely obvious. Things like the guy falling to the mat simply because he's been touched or having one arm pulled over his head and sticking the other one up of his own accord.

My big pet peeve jobber move? Falling to his knees in some kind bogus takedown attempt and just sticking his head in between her legs. I looked at a preview on this site earlier and the guy just left his arm lying on the mat until the girl got the grip on it she was looking for. No effort to defend himself whatsoever.

Given the rise in strength and fighting skills among women generally these days, the videos should be getting better, not worse.
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Unfortunately even Kip's videos are starting to degrade to endless headscissors, but he's still a god among producers and has access to some real talent.
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Given the rise in strength and fighting skills among women generally these days, the videos should be getting better, not worse.
I know, it's not the 60s anymore, lol! Often the guy doesn't even pretend to resist, let alone fight the girl. It's like he's afraid his buddies might see the video and tease him about losing to a girl. He can confidently say, "see, I'm NOT even trying, it's too obvious!"
Some of the European Fight Club videos with that 140 lb Sunny, starting from standup, he just rolls backward onto the mat, like the girl "won" the takedown. But it's obviously phony. I'm thinking why bother, just start with them both on their knees.

But I think there really is a significant number of fans out there who really don't want the guy to fight back and even prefer the obvious fakery. I really have no other explanation for it. Some of these producers have been at it too long to be that clueless.
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Default Re: Anyone else feel like newer "wrestling" videos are getting worse and worse?

I would be interested in hearing from the guys who are into the obvious fakery vids. Why is something of such poor quality acceptable? I have some ideas why, but I don't want to offend anyone.
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Default Re: Anyone else feel like newer "wrestling" videos are getting worse and worse?

Indeed, videos look less and less competitive. OTOH, the image quality has soared and that lets us get more detail on the contenders. New videos are more like photographs and the obvious approach is to enhance the posing. In older videos with VHS quality or less the appeal was in the action, whilst pausing the video gave back a lousy image. In order to see the legs, arms, ass or tits a picture was needed. Nowadays with videos being 1080 and up, we can rejoice on the bodies or spot imperfections very easily.
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