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It's not empowering; it's fostering a different kind of shame culture. And it's loathsome, especially for a fetish. |
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Obviously PEDs exist in sports, but as you see, those men can be just as guilty. Quote:
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I only posted actual results and compared them. If the truth offends people then the problem is with those people and not with the truth. The only thing that's loathsome is your hatred for those women and for the truth. You don't want to give any credit at all to those women for beating those male national records but instead you just want to bring up excuses for the men. If you think that this is "shaming" then this entire forum is about "shaming" men for losing to women. People gloat over men losing in competitions to women all the time. Why don't you start moralizing in threads like "submissions from competitions" then, those men did not consent to be put there either and by your logic that is also wrong. In reality it is not because this forum deals with men competing with women. Last edited by al89; 29-Sep-17 at 22:56. |
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It's just like when someone posts a video of a woman beating a man in let's say grappling and you have tons of comments how "the man didn't try" or "wasn't as skilled as her" or "barely trained" and very rarely you have anyone giving any credit to the woman. It's tiring and it's also very insulting to women athletes because it assumes that pretty much all men are naturally better than them in their sport if they really "try". Then when it comes to women vs men performance in sports they always compare the elite women athletes to some elite male freak athletes and also put women down as naturally inferior athletes. Well, I tried something different and compared them to men from athletically poor countries. But obviously some people are butthurt because the results that I found go against their narrative that a trained man is somehow always better than a trained woman. This thread shows that this isn't true no matter how you try to spin it. Those men whose records were defeated trained hard and still failed. There is nothing racial about it. If some people see it that way then it's maybe because some people from Western Europe are just too prejudiced and close-minded because they are taught that everything that is "white" is bad and they perceive Eastern Europeans as "white" and therefore praising them is bad too (according to their logic). That's why they never want to give any credit to Eastern European women athletes but instead often attack them and accuse them of steroids! People generally accept that certain African people are naturally great runners and sprinters but many of those same people get all butthurt when anyone even suggests that Slavs are great athletes, or Slavic women in this case. But why should I have to adapt to those close minded people because their feelings might get hurt? The results speak for themselves. In Eastern Europe we don't have this ridiculous sensitivity about race that the Westerners have. Also, a lot of people like racial elements in this fetish even if they're not racist otherwise. That's why there are threads about "victorious black women" and things like that. I included mostly Eastern European women because I know those countries and their athletes well, but I also brought up some African women and the Chinese too and I will look into non-European countries with great athletic performance more in the future. I just don't know them well enough to start with them. Also, Slavic and Germanic women are more attractive to me than those women so it's only natural I rather post about them. I did make a thread about the historic black/African Dahomey amazon women before who killed "white" people. Another reason why it's mostly Eastern European women it's because they do the best in these comparisons with men because they're all-around great in athletics and have decent results in all disciplines. Some great non-European athletic nations might excel in something but fail in other disciplines and they ended up short in comparisons. Germanic and Slavic women are also the tallest women on the planet. Last edited by al89; 29-Sep-17 at 23:41. |
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The sexy Russian athlete Darya Klishina
Her personal best at long jump is 7.05m compared to the women's world record at 7.52m, but she still beats the Yemeni male record of 6.55m! The men of Yemen simply can't match the athleticism of this sexy tall Russian blonde! A very humbling fact for the men there who consider women inferior. |
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Sorry, but you do need the right platform - the right genetics - to excel athletically whether you're a man or a woman. I'm secure enough to admit that you could give me all the best training in the world and I'd never come close to out-sprinting someone like Dafne Schippers on her worst day and I'm a pretty fit guy who's in good health (touch wood) who runs swims and weight trains regularly. The truth is there is as much disparity AMONG genders as there is between them and that disparity is huge. Elite women can and clearly do beat non-elite men. FACT. Deal with it, please. Added after 11 minutes: Quote:
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She definitely represents the peak of female athleticism. In the 2008 Olympics she jumped 5.05m. This is the list of male national records from November 2008 that she beat: Andorra 4.75 Bernat Vilella 2006-06-21 Barcelona Angola 4.05 José Francisco 1984-06-11 Luanda Anguilla 3.21 Andre Samuel 2002-04-27 Cobleskill Antigua 3.80 Calvin Greenaway 1973-06-02 Newham Antilles 3.50 Ivor Landburg 1997-08-31 Sittard Armenia 4.40 Onik Khachatrian 1978-06-15 Yerevan Aruba 3.30 Ericko Pieternella 1995- Azerbaijan 5.00 Aleksandr Zyatin 1973-05-05 Kharkov Bahamas 4.89 Brent Vanderpool 1987- Nassau Bahrain 4.45 Ibrahim Hussein 1995-04-16 Manama Bangladesh 4.35 Humayun Kabir 2006-04-29 Dhaka Barbados 3.70 Clifford Brooks 1977-08-13 London Belize 3.20 Joel Wade 1994-01-21 San Salvador Benin 3.50 John Godonou-Dossou 1957-06-30 Dakar Bermuda 3.86 Brooke Onley 1987-05-15 Tuscaloosa Bolivia 3.90 Daniel Araujo 1986-08-24 Cochabamba Bosnia-Herz 4.80 Borivoje Bosnjak 1974-06-30 Sarajevo Botswana 2.50 Geofehngwe Osupile 1987-07-25 Gaborone Brit Virgin Is 4.20 Paul Hewlett 1987-08-13 Indianapolis Brunei 4.70 Domingo Kapal 1995-09-03 Singapore Burkina Faso 3.85 Alassane Néya 1993-05-02 Ouagadougou Burundi 4.10 Pierre Ntibarashirwa 1979-09-09 Bujumbura Cambodia 3.90 Péou Chin 1968-07-18 Phnom Penh Cameroon 4.05 Bienvenu Djakissam 1966-08-21 Viry-Chatillon Cape Verde Is 4.30 José Rosa 2008-06-15 Luso Central Africa 3.80 Mickael Conjungo 1989-04-30 Noisy-le-Grand Chad 3.80 Hubert Djimtoloum 1963- Brazzaville Congo 4.25 Jean-Prosper Tsondzabéka 1969-06-14 Tunis Congo Dem Rep 4.20 Abelard Ndombi 1989-05-07 Bordeaux Cook Islands 3.10 Akanoa William 1987-12-18 Nouméa Dominica 2.90 Andy Baron 2003-07-19 Bridgetown Dominican Rep 4.80 Nathanael Semeis 2008-07-04 Cali Ecuador 4.60 Lenin Zambrano 2007-03-11 Cuenca Egypt 5.05 Ahmed Abou Zid 1995-08-26 Cairo El Salvador 4.74 Oscar Hernandez 2003-07-12 San Salvador Ethiopia 3.65 Yohanes Giorgis 1975- Addis Ababa Equa Guinea 2.20 Alfonso Ikuga 2007-09-30 Sabadell Fiji 4.45 Joe Rodan 2002-07-28 Manchester Gabon 4.50 Sylvain Lindzondzo 1981-08-08 La Valbonne Ghana 4.45 Edward Abaye 1997-07-05 Kumasi Grenada 3.70 Alleyne Lett 2005-03-25 Baton Rouge Guatemala 4.60 Jorge Solorzano 2001-08-18 Cd Guatemala Guinea-Bissau 2.70 Arnaldo Fernandes 1984-02-29 Santiago Guyana 4.11 Reginald Dash 1967-04-01 Ponce Haiti 3.25 Jean Théard 1951-05-24 Port-au-Prince Honduras 4.15 Cecil Koehling 1994-12-03 Tegucigalpa Hongkong 4.23 Fung Kam Lung 1999-12-12 Hongkong Iraq 4.43 Mehdi Muhsin 1982-10-02 Mossul Ireland 5.00 Alan Burke 1989-08-13 Birmingham Jordan 4.85 Taber Salem Al-Zahoun 2007-05-19 Amman Kenya 4.60 Kenneth Kirui 2000-07-20 Nairobi Korea, North 5.00 Han Il Hak 1990-06-02 Sofia Laos 3.70 Sisomphone Vongpharkdy 2003-12-11 Hanoi Lebanon 4.40 Mohamed Nasser 1971-10-15 Izmir Liberia 4.40 Jangy Addy 2008-06-30 Eugene Libya 3.70 Ali Magrowi 1969-07-25 Tripoli Liechtenstein 4.20 Franz Biedermann 1971-08-12 Helsinki Macau 3.30 Tam Kam Hung 1980-02-02 Hongkong Macedonia 3.90 Vladimir Karer 1968-08-15 Livorno Madagascar 4.30 Dominique Rakotoralahy 1967-04-06 Antanarivo Malawi 3.81 C. Msompha 1967-08-26 Blantyre Malaysia 5.00 Teh Weng Chang 2002-03-24 Kuala Lumpur Mali 4.00 Bassan Bagayoko 1982-10-31 Arles Malta 4.25 Stefan Mohnani 2000-06-16 Marsa Mauritania 3.15 Sidy Ould M'Barek 1968-05-10 Nouakchott Mayotte 3.60 Ibrahim Ahamada 2005-04-03 St. Denis, REU Micronesia 3.85 Keitani Graham 2003-07-10 Suva Monaco 3.60 Yvan Ornella 1988-03-20 Monaco Mongolia 3.80 Tserendesh Tsogtbaatar 1970-07-12 Ulaanbaatar Montenegro 4.00 Darko Simovic 1979-09-27 Beograd Montserrat 3.58 Lloyd Maloney 1959-09-14 Uxbridge Mozambique 4.00 Candido Coelho 1974-04-28 Maputo Myanmar 4.75 Kyaw Zaw 1974-03-31 Rangoon Namibia 4.84 Johan Mostert 1984-02-25 Windhoek Nepal 3.85 Rudra Bhattarai 1994-09-16 Kathmandu Nicaragua 3.75 Eduardo Garcia 1990-01-11 Tegucigalpa Niger 4.90 Smael Madougou 1999-06-16 Meylan Nigeria 4.45 Festus Saliu 1991-08-01 Lagos Niue 3.10 John Kumitau 1979-09-07 Suva Norfolk Island 1.60 Jayden Nicolai 1997-11-24 Middlegate Oman 4.30 Yahya Al-Hashmy 2001-05-22 Muscat Pakistan 4.90 Muhammad Ayub 2005-12-30 Islamabad Palau 3.20 Filomena Ngirabedul 1969-07 Saipan Palestine 3.90 Dirar Izat 1983-06-03 Al Kuwait Panama 4.75 Antonio Morales 1999-05-21 Fairfax Papua N Guinea 4.20 Eric Momberger 1992-08-06 Barcelona Paraguay 4.50 Hugo Ramos 1990-05-26 Asuncion Philippines 5.00 Edward Lasquette 1992-08-05 Barcelona Rwanda 4.10 Jean-Baptiste Biményimana 1981-11-16 Bugesera Samoa, West 3.80 Iafeta Sua'mene 1975-03-15 Christchurch San Marino 4.50 Paolo Maiani 1989-07-01 Imola Sao Tomé 2.81 Carlos Amado 1996-08-31 Hasselby Saudi Arabia 4.75 Diaj Khalifa Al-Sogaey 2008-07-31 Valkeala Seychelles 3.90 Donny Magnan 1995-09-17 Harare Sierra Leone 3.48 Thomas Sandy 1972-12-26 Freetown Singapore 4.75 Kean Mun Ng 1990-05-21 Norman Solomon Is 3.70 Leonard Nonifi 1989-08-26 Nuku'alofa Somalia 3.50 Mohamed Osman Yussuf 1970- Sheikh Sri Lanka 4.85 Ruwan Perera 1999-07-31 Colombo St. Kitts 3.88 Arthur Jeffers 1978-05-20 Basseterre St. Vincent 3.50 Dan Winsboro 1965-08-01 Bridgetown Sudan 4.02 Barnaba Mariam 1964-11-05 Khartoum Surinam 3.50 Ludwig de Sanders 1954-07 Haarlem Syria 4.60 Mohammed Malla Khalaf 2007-05-19 Amman Tajikistan 4.70 Yuriy Sakulin 1982-07-16 Leningrad Tanzania 4.06 Wong Sang 1970-11-14 Dar es Salaam Togo 4.20 Latif Adeothy 2001-05-26 Valenciennes Tonga 4.90 Aisea Tukutau 1996-08-07 Wollongong Trinidad 4.65 Eddison Toby 1995-08-04 Ithaca Turkmenistan 4.61 Oleg Tsirtsenis 1981-05-17 Ashkahabad Uganda 4.57 Teddy Sondota 1997-05-15 Abilene United Arab Em 4.70 Abdullah Abbas Derouiche 2004-03-11 Dubai Uruguay 5.00 Fernando Ruocco 1980-06-20 Troisdorf Vanatu 3.70 André Koulon 1975-07-28 Port Vila Vietnam 4.60 Le Hong Phuc 2006-07-21 Danang Yemen 3.40 Mohamed Bertouche 1973- Alger Zaire 4.20 Abelard Ndombi 1989-05-07 Bordeaux Zambia 3.74 Geoffrey Chongo 1960-06-08 Lusaka Zimbabwe 4.50 Stanley Flowers 1995-09-18 Harare [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] I couldn't find a more recent list so maybe some of those records were improved, but then again it's only fair to compare her to the records of her time when she was in her prime. At her absolute best, she ruled over men from those countries in their sport. All of those men were humbled by her athletic ability! Many of those countries are rich with athletic tradition yet they were soundly defeated by Yelena Isinbayeva! Last edited by al89; 30-Sep-17 at 13:49. |
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This thread is dumb. We are trying to talk sense into people with a need to keep their fantasy alive. As much as I wish there was actually a special ethnicity with a superior genepol like amazonian women, I do know the difference between fantasy and reality.
The reality is, that even though you will keep posting results of women who has achieved faster times, higher jumps than men from certain countries, no science points to what you are saying, the only "science" I have found are conspiracies with no evidence. The famous David Duke points to the same "theory" as you, with the end conclusion that some ethnice races are more intelligent than others, which of course has been debunked so many freaking times I don't even know where to start! On the other hand, there are plenty of studies on why some countries and allegedly races perform significantly better than others, where there is no doubt that social structures is the main factor. Of course you will have small genetic variations, which explains more black people are in sprint and in explosive sports. But to say that some women ethnicities are stronger than some men is downright dumb! To say a women is superior to a man because she can run a 100meter fast is dumb! 100meter or any sprint disciplines has a lot to do with technique and is not just about raw power! Weightlifting is not just about raw power either! And to you who keeps claiming that nigerian women or whatever can run fast in spite of living in a country with few funds...do your freaking studies!!! it's in their culture to run, wether they go to school or go get groceries! Im out! My life is too short to be debating with conspiracy morons! |
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It's more fun if the individual Yemeni athlete appears to be a chauvinist and he loses directly to a beautiful, blonde Eastern European athlete. Or a Eastern European guy, why not. One of these guys who dislikes gay people, and then loses to two beautiful girls, who kiss each other after they win. I guess that should make all Eastern European men feel ashamed and embarrassed. |
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Also you admit that there are "genetic variations" but obviously you only mention black people. It seems like some Westerners will never give Eastern European women any credit at all. It's also evidenced by how viciously they attack them because of alleged doping, there has been an entire campaign trying to shame those women! There has always been a lot of anti-Slavic racism in the West but I forgive them because they just live in close-minded and prejudiced societies. Fortunately, not all people are prejudiced like you and they appreciate this thread. Even if you disagree about the reasons, this thread still shows that those elite Eastern European women are a lot better when compared to a lot of male populations around the world than people give them credit for! Yelena Isinbayeva smashed male national records of a lot of countries, including the likes of Ireland. Quote:
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Also, I can assure you that I would have no problem if that hot German sprinter Sina Schielke would make me worship her and humiliate me like the Slavic dog that I am. I don't care about politics and I don't care about that sensitivity about race that many people in the West have. I'm game for all kinds of these scenarios. The Yemenis on the other hand would probably feel completely crushed and humiliated if they competed against those athletically superior Eastern European women directly because their country clearly believes that women are inferior considering the way they treat them. Those girls would take their entire collective manhood away. Last edited by al89; 30-Sep-17 at 17:47. |
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