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In their time California Supreme were leaders in the respect that many outfits produced video of girls rolling around topless or nude,but C.S.were I believe were the first to have them wrestle for real.
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In many of their matches there seemed to be some hard feelings between the girls wrestling. Some of the frustration poured out into a bit more violence than perhaps was called for. Cal Supreme also helped many girls get a good start in their careers or helped many keep going as they built a reputation.
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Another girl-girl match:

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I never thought of California Supreme as being 100% authentic. For their time, they produced some very good matches, that were what we would call today "semi-competitive." But I think Ron Dvorkin had some kind of script for most all their matches. They were somewhere in between the phony films produced by Triumph Studios and the genuine article that Judell put out. Having said that, some of their earlier matches were good, maybe 75% or so competitive, and it's possible they filmed some real matches.
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I never thought of California Supreme as being 100% authentic. For their time, they produced some very good matches, that were what we would call today "semi-competitive." But I think Ron Dvorkin had some kind of script for most all their matches. They were somewhere in between the phony films produced by Triumph Studios and the genuine article that Judell put out. Having said that, some of their earlier matches were good, maybe 75% or so competitive, and it's possible they filmed some real matches.
As I understand it, the California Supreme were real matches, but you always have some girls who fight harder then others. They did have some winner/loser, scripted banter/domination that went on at the end but they fought for real to determine the winner. That`s why you`ll see Ron intervene at a certain point to prevent the end of match abuse from going to far. I haven`t seen their mixed matches which were probably/certainly semi-comp since 90+% of mixed wrestling is. But the girlvsgirl were the real deal. I`ve never seen one that I thought wasn`t.

P.S. Even the Judell Dulong mixed matches were worked.
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As I understand it, the California Supreme were real matches, but you always have some girls who fight harder then others. They did have some winner/loser, scripted banter/domination that went on at the end but they fought for real to determine the winner. That`s why you`ll see Ron intervene at a certain point to prevent the end of match abuse from going to far. I haven`t seen their mixed matches which were probably/certainly semi-comp since 90+% of mixed wrestling is. But the girlvsgirl were the real deal. I`ve never seen one that I thought wasn`t.

P.S. Even the Judell Dulong mixed matches were worked.
Yeah, I can buy that some of the early stuff was real. When I say "semi-competitive," I'm basically saying that it's real but they're not out to take each other apart, kind of like a friendly wrestling match with the pretty girl in the neighborhood when you were a kid or some of the sessions I've had. I couldn't have ever powerfully twisted a woman's arm or cranked her neck in a headlock. That's what I'm trying to say, but I don't disagree with your description. Yes, Judell's mixed films had some scripting. If a guy would have won just one match, I might think otherwise, but none ever did. Having said that, I think some of those girls--Nancy, Treena, Karen, etc.--were capable of beating smaller guys like Rod Hendrick and Mike Lucas.
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Yeah, I can buy that some of the early stuff was real. When I say "semi-competitive," I'm basically saying that it's real but they're not out to take each other apart, kind of like a friendly wrestling match with the pretty girl in the neighborhood when you were a kid or some of the sessions I've had. I couldn't have ever powerfully twisted a woman's arm or cranked her neck in a headlock. That's what I'm trying to say, but I don't disagree with your description. Yes, Judell's mixed films had some scripting. If a guy would have won just one match, I might think otherwise, but none ever did. Having said that, I think some of those girls--Nancy, Treena, Karen, etc.--were capable of beating smaller guys like Rod Hendrick and Mike Lucas.
Cool. By your definition I can agree with you

I think it was difficult to get girls to fight that hard back then and in general wouldn`t have been the goal.
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What years were they actively producing new content? I received snail mail catalogs from them for years, but it mostly looked like the same videos.
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Probably mid 60s, maybe as early as 62 or so, up until about 10+ years ago. I will still very infrequently get a brochure from them, but nothing new has been produced as far as I know. I think Dvorkin sold his inventory, possibly to one or more of CS’s wrestlers. I seem to recall reading something about that in a brochure or online but can’t remember for sure. Whatever the case I’m pretty sure he’s no longer involved with CS.

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