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Old 19-Sep-17, 15:14
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I also have to go foxes. Besides Taz I haven't seen a scissor vixen I liked in a longtime. Besides having your main guy that won't get knocked out makes things hard to believe. I will say vixens has Scissor Magic the Cindy huntress vid which is my all time favorite video. But kandor seemed to be able to take more than drew and was wiling to get GO'd. I see people complaining about Jays fake knockouts but they seem less than the real ones and he has some really great vids where he gets totally destroyed, way more than on most other sites so ill always support him.
Also whoever said the idea of a choke hold related site w ko's I would subscirbd to that in a second. I've always wondered why that hasn't happened. Some RG or brutal beauty vids are choke themed I guess.
I'd say the reason is with real KOs there's a huge risk involved in killing someone for real. As a producer do you really wanna risk jail time for a few extra bucks each month? Plus many of those guys who knock out constantly are probably brain damaged big time now. I know a few that go out with the slightest squeeze so it;s not even like the girl is trying anymore. Might as well just keep faking it or at least use guys who will only tap when they actually need to and can take long pressure on the neck.
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Don't care for a majority of the scissorvixen models now a days. Scissorfoxes is much better and more importantly, most of the gals seem to know what they are doing, even if some content isn't original- but scissorvixens is just too contrived and absolutely boring- their videos are needlessly longer than 8 minutes. No creativity and some of that is the result of hiring strippers who are obviously not into, or have no understanding of the fetish.
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SF has Jessica Bond... SV has Drew.

Game, set, match.
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I also have to go foxes. Besides Taz I haven't seen a scissor vixen I liked in a longtime. Besides having your main guy that won't get knocked out makes things hard to believe. I will say vixens has Scissor Magic the Cindy huntress vid which is my all time favorite video. But kandor seemed to be able to take more than drew and was wiling to get GO'd. I see people complaining about Jays fake knockouts but they seem less than the real ones and he has some really great vids where he gets totally destroyed, way more than on most other sites so ill always support him.
Also whoever said the idea of a choke hold related site w ko's I would subscirbd to that in a second. I've always wondered why that hasn't happened. Some RG or brutal beauty vids are choke themed I guess.
The reason I don't get knocked out is because I AM ABLE to take the pressure and only tap when I have to.

To say Kandor was able to take more pressure is simply not correct. Kandor was getting knocked out in seconds because he wasn't able to take a lot of pressure before going nighty-night which is one reason he stopped doing videos for us.

Now...I can go ahead and 'perfect' fake knockouts to make it look real or do a bunch of rapid taps on the girls legs to make it look like she's really killing me but I like to keep the taps and knockouts real.

Not every girl is capable of knocking guys out in a scissor hold despite what you see on many sites that try to convince you every girl in every video can do so.

Also, knockouts come at a cost to brain cells. If some guy is getting knocked out for real in every video for the past 10 years...he'd be eating out of a straw and barely able to talk.

So...just because Drew isn't getting knocked out doesn't mean the girl isn't pouring on the pressure!

Just ask any of the girls we work with if Drew can take a lot of scissor pressure and they'll tell you YES! More so than most.

It's ironic...the fake knockout videos have convinced everyone they are real while videos where there isn't a knockout are somehow not real because there isn't a knockout.

There area certainly many REAL KNOCKOUT videos out there, including on ScissorVixens, but not nearly as many as the fake knockout producers would have you believe.

Drew

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SF has Jessica Bond... SV has Drew.

Game, set, match.
Good lord...ScissorVixens has 532 different ScissorVixen models and counting...and we use a greater variety of male victims than many others.

Keep it real please!

Drew

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result of hiring strippers who are obviously not into, or have no understanding of the fetish.
Strippers make some of the BEST CRUSHERS out there because they are often athletic, flexible and for the pole dancers...wrapping their legs around a guys neck or head is second nature to them!

This notion that porn girls, strippers, etc. are somehow unqualified to be in videos is the complete opposite of what is true.

Because of their experience in front of the camera, or a large audience of men, they are very good in front of the ScissorVixens camera.

ALL scissor sites use both porn girls and strippers.

Drew

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I'd say the reason is with real KOs there's a huge risk involved in killing someone for real. As a producer do you really wanna risk jail time for a few extra bucks each month? Plus many of those guys who knock out constantly are probably brain damaged big time now. I know a few that go out with the slightest squeeze so it;s not even like the girl is trying anymore. Might as well just keep faking it or at least use guys who will only tap when they actually need to and can take long pressure on the neck.
EXACTLY!

The guys getting knocked out for real are NOT the guys who can take more pressure, but guys who can't take ANY pressure.

I've used a few of these guys that also appear on other sites where they have knockouts in every video.

We had one guy get knocked out 5 times in less than 10 minutes with Jasmine Mendez NOT because he was tough enough to get knocked out but because he's now been knocked out so many times for other producers...the slightest amount of pressure he goes out.

Every time a guy gets knocked out...he is more susceptible to getting knocked out the next time. Then it takes no effort on the girl's part to knock him out the next time.

There's a lot of guys here talking about what's real, contrived, fake, etc. yet I wonder how many of those guys have ever been scissored, knocked out or even had a session with a girl?

Drew

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The jobbers part is the hardest part about the industry. it's so damn hard to find guys who a) can handle a REAL squeeze for an extended period of time. b) Don't look horrible on cam c) Don't look like they're loving every minute of it d) either don't make any noise or make too much noise. e) will show their face on cam.

I can't speak for Jay, but I know Drew finds it very hard to find guys who can pull off all of these things. Luckily since he moved to Vegas he has a good group of jobber guys in Jay Wimp, Fluffy, Dante etc. He's always looking for fit muscle girls too. Problem is, They are usually too scared to be on camera however with the way social media has gone and the prevalence of sites like phub etc, girls are a lot more reluctant to shoot anything "adult" incase they are found out. Especially if they are going for a career in fbb or fitness.
This is all VERY true.

Finding guys who can take the pressure and not tap-out every 2 seconds so the girl can actually squeeze for real it isn't easy along with all the other possible issues with male victims.

Drew

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I can't speak for Drew, but I believe he's at times, looked for guys for filming. I've done some filming and I can speak from experience that not all guys are good models. Guys who can take the scissor but fake it - lousy models. Guys who tap at the first sign of discomfort and want a time out - very annoying to film with. Also big guy often don't work. It's not believable if a 115 lb model beats up a 220 lb, muscular guy.

So, not every model is going to work, but if you're a good fit, e-mail him and ask. It never hurts to ask. Click the feedback & contact option on the website and send him an e-mail.

I think they're located in the Boston area.
Spoken like a TRUE producer and right on the money about the difficulty in finding good male talent/victims.

BTW...we are now in Las Vegas and Florida before that. Moved from Boston about 4.5 years ago.

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There's very good value in a strategically timed SV membership though.
Yep...times have changed and so we decided it was time to include the entire video, not just shorter video clips taken from the full video, in our members area.

So, now if you are a member...you get the entire video and don't have to purchase it at a discount price when released later.

Drew

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I also have to go foxes. Besides Taz I haven't seen a scissor vixen I liked in a longtime. Besides having your main guy that won't get knocked out makes things hard to believe. I will say vixens has Scissor Magic the Cindy huntress vid which is my all time favorite video. But kandor seemed to be able to take more than drew and was wiling to get GO'd. I see people complaining about Jays fake knockouts but they seem less than the real ones and he has some really great vids where he gets totally destroyed, way more than on most other sites so ill always support him.
Also whoever said the idea of a choke hold related site w ko's I would subscirbd to that in a second. I've always wondered why that hasn't happened. Some RG or brutal beauty vids are choke themed I guess.
The reason I don't get knocked out is because I AM ABLE to take the pressure and only tap when I have to.

To say Kandor was able to take more pressure is simply not correct. Kandor was getting knocked out in seconds because he wasn't able to take a lot of pressure before going nighty-night which is one reason he stopped doing videos for us.

Now...I can go ahead and 'perfect' fake knockouts to make it look real or do a bunch of rapid taps on the girls legs to make it look like she's really killing me but I like to keep the taps and knockouts real.

Not every girl is capable of knocking guys out in a scissor hold despite what you see on many sites that try to convince you every girl in every video can do so.

Also, knockouts come at a cost to brain cells. If some guy is getting knocked out for real in every video for the past 10 years...he'd be eating out of a straw and barely able to talk.

So...just because Drew isn't getting knocked out doesn't mean the girl isn't pouring on the pressure!

Just ask any of the girls we work with if Drew can take a lot of scissor pressure and they'll tell you YES! More so than most.

It's ironic...the fake knockout videos have convinced everyone they are real while videos where there isn't a knockout are somehow not real because there isn't a knockout.

There area certainly many REAL KNOCKOUT videos out there, including on ScissorVixens, but not nearly as many as the fake knockout producers would have you believe.

Drew

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SF has Jessica Bond... SV has Drew.

Game, set, match.
Good lord...ScissorVixens has 532 different ScissorVixen models and counting...and we use a greater variety of male victims than many others.

Keep it real please!

Drew

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result of hiring strippers who are obviously not into, or have no understanding of the fetish.
Strippers make some of the BEST CRUSHERS out there because they are often athletic, flexible and for the pole dancers...wrapping their legs around a guys neck or head is second nature to them!

This notion that porn girls, strippers, etc. are somehow unqualified to be in videos is the complete opposite of what is true.

Because of their experience in front of the camera, or a large audience of men, they are very good in front of the ScissorVixens camera.

ALL scissor sites use both porn girls and strippers.

Drew

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I'd say the reason is with real KOs there's a huge risk involved in killing someone for real. As a producer do you really wanna risk jail time for a few extra bucks each month? Plus many of those guys who knock out constantly are probably brain damaged big time now. I know a few that go out with the slightest squeeze so it;s not even like the girl is trying anymore. Might as well just keep faking it or at least use guys who will only tap when they actually need to and can take long pressure on the neck.
EXACTLY!

The guys getting knocked out for real are NOT the guys who can take more pressure, but guys who can't take ANY pressure.

I've used a few of these guys that also appear on other sites where they have knockouts in every video.

We had one guy get knocked out 5 times in less than 10 minutes with Jasmine Mendez NOT because he was tough enough to get knocked out but because he's now been knocked out so many times for other producers...the slightest amount of pressure he goes out.

Every time a guy gets knocked out...he is more susceptible to getting knocked out the next time. Then it takes no effort on the girl's part to knock him out the next time.

There's a lot of guys here talking about what's real, contrived, fake, etc. yet I wonder how many of those guys have ever been scissored, knocked out or even had a session with a girl?

Drew

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The jobbers part is the hardest part about the industry. it's so damn hard to find guys who a) can handle a REAL squeeze for an extended period of time. b) Don't look horrible on cam c) Don't look like they're loving every minute of it d) either don't make any noise or make too much noise. e) will show their face on cam.

I can't speak for Jay, but I know Drew finds it very hard to find guys who can pull off all of these things. Luckily since he moved to Vegas he has a good group of jobber guys in Jay Wimp, Fluffy, Dante etc. He's always looking for fit muscle girls too. Problem is, They are usually too scared to be on camera however with the way social media has gone and the prevalence of sites like phub etc, girls are a lot more reluctant to shoot anything "adult" incase they are found out. Especially if they are going for a career in fbb or fitness.
This is all VERY true.

Finding guys who can take the pressure and not tap-out every 2 seconds so the girl can actually squeeze for real it isn't easy along with all the other possible issues with male victims.

Drew

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I can't speak for Drew, but I believe he's at times, looked for guys for filming. I've done some filming and I can speak from experience that not all guys are good models. Guys who can take the scissor but fake it - lousy models. Guys who tap at the first sign of discomfort and want a time out - very annoying to film with. Also big guy often don't work. It's not believable if a 115 lb model beats up a 220 lb, muscular guy.

So, not every model is going to work, but if you're a good fit, e-mail him and ask. It never hurts to ask. Click the feedback & contact option on the website and send him an e-mail.

I think they're located in the Boston area.
Spoken like a TRUE producer and right on the money about the difficulty in finding good male talent/victims.

BTW...we are now in Las Vegas and Florida before that. Moved from Boston about 4.5 years ago.

Drew

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There's very good value in a strategically timed SV membership though.
Yep...times have changed and so we decided it was time to include the entire video, not just shorter video clips taken from the full video, in our members area.

So, now if you are a member...you get the entire video and don't have to purchase it at a discount price when released later.

Drew

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Can't people just be glad that these websites exist in the first place?

I can honestly say it's a tough call as they're both a reliable source of scissoring action and I wouldn't wanna see either go.
THANK YOU!

Here's the BEST part...you don't have to choose between ScissorVixens, ScssorFoxes or any other site or producer.

You come to our sites, check out what's new and if you like what you see...purchase the video or videos or join the site if you prefer.

What if you see a new girl or video you like on more than one site...? What to do then?

Well...if your wallet can support it...then just purchase from both sites.

I'm sure we (ScissorFoxes and ScissorsVixens) share MANY of the same customers each month, week and year and we are doing our best to give you guys what you want. But not all customers want the same thing so go with the videos or producers who appeal to you.

Drew

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Some of them are beautiful, but they can't squeeze like the session girls. I am assuming they do this because they dont need to pay the strippers as much. I also never get any videos with that Drew guy in them. He always does those stupid little "hidden" tapouts. Just tap out like a man! Plus he is scared to get KOed.
Good lord you are SO WRONG on a few points here.

MANY stripper girls can squeeeeeeze the living daylights out of you because of what they do for a living...especially pole dancers!

And MANY of the popular session girls are also current or former strippers!

As for Drew's off camera 'hidden' tap-outs...again...you have NO CLUE what you are talking about.

When I'm ready to tap...I tap for real and make sure the camera can see it. In fact...I tell the other male victims I use to make sure if you have to tap...be real with it and make sure the camera can see it.

For you to accuse me of 'hidden' tap-outs just because you don't see me tap is completely wrong.

I just prefer to keep it REAL when it comes to tap-outs and of course knockouts.

Sorry...I have far less experience at silly rapid fake tap-outs and knockouts then a few other producers out there who have perfected faking shit and have so many of their customers fooled.

Drew

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The Vixens aren't exactly a cornucopia of variety, either.

And as repetitive as the Foxes may be, at least the Foxes are willing to show some measure of warmth and pleasure and goodwill towards the suffering male victim in between their legs from time-to-time.

The Vixens never do. And frankly, the more I visit them and watch their videos, the more I believe that the Vixens' hostility towards the men (scripted as it may be) is not faked but truly and genuinely felt.
If your idea is a variety of different girls...than I think over 500 different ScissorVixen models isn't too bad. Sure, one can make the argument that quality is better than quantity but the girls we feature are for the most part quality girls in our humble opinion.

As for the models hostility towards men in our videos...? We are a female domination site where women dominate men and are sadistic about scissoring the shit out of men.

A lot of our customers want that and so we give them that.

But also keep in mind...these girls are also playing a role in our videos and very few I would accuse of being genuine man-haters and are total sweethearts off camera!

Drew

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Are scissorvixens ever looking for guys to be in videos? Where abouts are they located?

I'd be up for doing a video for them
We're always looking for guys so if you think you have what it takes than just email us at victims@[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register].com.

We do have a certain set of criteria but hopefully you'll meet it.

Drew

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I subscribed to both for a time and although both are good in my opinion, I like Vixens better. I have to agree with some that I don't like it too much when it's the owners in most of the videos but maybe they can't find guys who can take the punishment. There have been some wimpy looking guys on the vixens site and I would like to see more wimpy guys in most of their videos. But just a thought, how many guys that are reasonably looking (not ugly and not necessarily handsome), have a build that isn't too bulky ( not disgustingly fat), and is willing to get their neck squeezed like hell for free? I admit I do not really know if those guys get paid or do it for free, but I think most crazy people like myself would think getting squeezed by a gorgeous chick is compensation enough.
LOL...I hear ya about the owners but your are correct...it's difficult for us to find the right mix in a good male victim.

But I do love finding smaller guys to get tossed around by these girls and squeeeeezed senseless as long as they can also take the punishment and not tap out every 2 seconds.

And yes...would you believe we have to pay these guys to get squeezed between some gorgeous girl's thighs!?

But...many times...those guys make the best victims because it's pure torture for them and it shows on their face so we are willing to pay them if they meet all the other victim requirements we have.

Drew

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Sometimes we are the only ones who show up to work.
LOL...so true!

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Is it econimally feasable to travel? I would love to be in a vid.
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i was a member to scissorfoxes along time . they have nice pics . my problem is there are so many women and 2-3 guys . expand your variety . thanks.

same to you scissorvixens if you read
Too many girls and not enough guys...?

Didn't know that was a problem!? LOL

I do understand what you mean though and we do our best to find QUALIFIED victims but they are not easy to find.

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I tend to like Scissorfoxes more because the photographer has a style that I would have if I were in that business. I prefer quality photos to videos, as I am never disappointed by a hot wrestling pic. Scissorvixens does have some real gems, but it is diluted by a lot of mediocre looking women and mediocre photos. If I went through the entire vixen list and looked at every photo set, would I find enough quality to surpass the Foxes inventory? Most likely. However, for the amount of Foxes there are, they provide a lot of quality!

Foxes for me baby!
The vast majority of our photos are taken by a REAL DSLR camera...NOT video screen shots and it's what many of our loyal customers appreciate.

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Scissorvixens and scissorfoxes should merge into one, mega mixed wrestling monopoly.

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Problem solved.
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That would be a hek of a merger. I remember some back and forth chatter between the two companies, not really getting along. I think Venus offered to scissor Drew and I think he turned her down, but I could be wrong. My memory isn't spot on sometimes, but I found that whole back and forth kind of funny. It was several years ago, I don't remember where the posts took place.

The lady tends to have the advantage though, her legs vs the guys neck.
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They are both amazing. And luckily for us still producing amazing content. And finding new incredible woman and enriching this scene.
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