Go Back   Male vs Female | The Mixed Wrestling Forum > Mixed Wrestling & Fighting > Wrestling & Fighting Discussion



Check out the latest release by Fight Pulse: Bianca vs Andreas.
Preview photos are available in this topic. Get this video at: Fight Pulse - MX-251.




View Poll Results: Has any guy every escape when a lady has him in this pin?
Guy: Never been pinned in this pin 22 26.19%
Guy: Been pinned in this and have never escaped 43 51.19%
Guy: Been pinned in this and have rarely escaped 13 15.48%
Guy: Been in this pin and know how to escape it (please share how) 4 4.76%
Lady: Never used this pin on a guy and don't want to 0 0%
Lady: Never used this pin on a guy but I am going to try it 0 0%
Lady: Tried to get this pin on a guy but couldn't apply it 0 0%
Lady: Pinned guys with this and they could never escape 2 2.38%
Lady: Pinned lots of guys with this and most cannot escape 0 0%
Lady: Use this a lot and know how to stop guys escaping (Please share) 0 0%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-Jan-19, 23:56
pauldownd pauldownd is offline
Member
Points: 4,418, Level: 28 Points: 4,418, Level: 28 Points: 4,418, Level: 28
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Gender: Male
Location: London
Posts: 89
Thanks: 339
Thanked 228 Times in 48 Posts
Default Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms

See picture below.

In this pin, the female wrestler has the guy in a reverse face sit, and has a sort of grapevine on his arms. On each side, his upper arm is trapped between the back of her thigh and her arm, and his lower arm, wrist and hand are wrapped in under her ankle and trapped in by her foot. In this pin she can apply a painful arm lock, and a full weight face sit smother on him, and she still has both hands free to thump him in the stomach to drive out any remaining air, or she can lean forward to grab his balls to quiet down any attempt to escape.

Can anybody put a better name to this pin?

I have been put in this a few times by some very skillful female wrestlers and I have never managed to escape. They have had me submitting over and over for as long they want, just raising their hips a little every now and then to keep me conscious, but never enough to give me any chance to escape.

Has any guy ever managed to escape from this and if so would they share how it can be done?

Similarly has any lady found a guy who can escape from this and then modified it a little so that he can no longer use that method to escape. If so please share how you did this?
Attached Images
File Type: png fsrgv1.png (1.32 MB, 404 views)

Last edited by pauldownd; 13-Jan-19 at 00:18.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to pauldownd For This Useful Post:
  #2  
Old 13-Jan-19, 02:13
pinme pinme is offline
Temporary group
Points: 7,133, Level: 36 Points: 7,133, Level: 36 Points: 7,133, Level: 36
Activity: 7.1% Activity: 7.1% Activity: 7.1%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 416
Thanks: 6
Thanked 612 Times in 268 Posts
Default Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms

I think the effectiveness depends to some degree on the length of my arms vs the length, thickness, and flexibility of her legs. With some women, I got my arms free but she was still on top and able to keep me under her control. With other women, I was completely at her mercy with no chance of escape. Girls with bjj expertise were especially good at this one, I think due to their flexibility. It is a wonderful experience to be pinned and immobilized this way.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to pinme For This Useful Post:
  #3  
Old 13-Jan-19, 06:36
Naji's Avatar
Naji Naji is offline
Administrator
Points: 864,862, Level: 100 Points: 864,862, Level: 100 Points: 864,862, Level: 100
Activity: 61.9% Activity: 61.9% Activity: 61.9%
Last Achievements
Award-Showcase
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Gender: Male
Location: Prague
Posts: 14,286
Thanks: 12,797
Thanked 115,688 Times in 9,926 Posts
Default Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms

Picture thread: [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
Naming thread: [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

@[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] came up with a great name for this, the "americana facesit".
__________________
[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] | [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] | [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] | [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] | [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] | [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] | [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Naji For This Useful Post:
  #4  
Old 13-Jan-19, 07:55
ManInBlack's Avatar
ManInBlack ManInBlack is offline
Moderator [D]
Points: 7,721, Level: 37 Points: 7,721, Level: 37 Points: 7,721, Level: 37
Activity: 21.4% Activity: 21.4% Activity: 21.4%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Gender: Male
Location: Celle - Germany
Posts: 605
Thanks: 1,912
Thanked 889 Times in 337 Posts
Default Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms

For me it is more or less a fantasy hold.
I have to let the girls apply that hold on me.

To get someone in that hold there has to be a significant difference in strength,
or the one on his back has to be totally worn out,
or he / she has to be totally inexperienced.

I showed that move to many girls and when they got the right position and mechanism there was no way out.

Furthermore it is a painful submission hold.
The girl on top just has to keep sitting on your head and to lift her knees while leaning back a little bit.

In my case girls with shorter legs are better in maintaining that hold.

Antscha and Gia Primo are experts in using that hold.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ManInBlack For This Useful Post:
  #5  
Old 13-Jan-19, 10:07
sydmixwrstlr's Avatar
sydmixwrstlr sydmixwrstlr is online now
Member
Points: 3,979, Level: 26 Points: 3,979, Level: 26 Points: 3,979, Level: 26
Activity: 2.4% Activity: 2.4% Activity: 2.4%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Gender: Male
Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 102
Thanks: 723
Thanked 296 Times in 59 Posts
Default Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms

I have escaped it by rolling my legs up placed my feet under her arm pits and straighten my legs throwing her balance..
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 13-Jan-19, 12:30
lasthero lasthero is offline
Member
Points: 5,031, Level: 30 Points: 5,031, Level: 30 Points: 5,031, Level: 30
Activity: 5.9% Activity: 5.9% Activity: 5.9%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Gender: Male
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
Posts: 86
Thanks: 52
Thanked 350 Times in 49 Posts
Default Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms

One thing I'm continually surprised with in my first year of session wrestling is how hard it is to get out of a properly applied facesit. You wouldn't think it would be all that difficult, but once it's locked in by a woman who has even a half-decent idea of what she's doing, it's nigh impossible to escape.
__________________
|Twitter: Little Zack|
|Instagram: little_zack2|
|Most Recent Story: The Intruder| - Be careful who you answer the door for...
http://www.malevsfemale.org/showthread.php?t=25270
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to lasthero For This Useful Post:
  #7  
Old 13-Jan-19, 22:37
pauldownd pauldownd is offline
Member
Points: 4,418, Level: 28 Points: 4,418, Level: 28 Points: 4,418, Level: 28
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Gender: Male
Location: London
Posts: 89
Thanks: 339
Thanked 228 Times in 48 Posts
Default Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms

Quote:
Originally Posted by sydmixwrstlr [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
I have escaped it by rolling my legs up placed my feet under her arm pits and straighten my legs throwing her balance..
I have tried that in the past but she just knocked by feet away before they got into contact and punched me in the stomach. I didn't try it again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ManInBlack [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
For me it is more or less a fantasy hold.
I have to let the girls apply that hold on me.

To get someone in that hold there has to be a significant difference in strength,
or the one on his back has to be totally worn out,
or he / she has to be totally inexperienced.

I showed that move to many girls and when they got the right position and mechanism there was no way out.

Furthermore it is a painful submission hold.
The girl on top just has to keep sitting on your head and to lift her knees while leaning back a little bit.

In my case girls with shorter legs are better in maintaining that hold.

Antscha and Gia Primo are experts in using that hold.
In my case the girl has already got me pretty worn out with conventional techniques such as scissors or just conventional face sitting and this is like a signature finishing move for them making the face sit they already have even more secure..

Added after 27 minutes:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zweig [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
Picture thread: [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
Naming thread: [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

@[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] came up with a great name for this, the "americana facesit".
Many thanks for the link. I should have done a search first, but hopefully the poll will add some further insights.

Last edited by pauldownd; 13-Jan-19 at 22:37.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 14-Jan-19, 21:12
farva farva is offline
Junior Member
Points: 14,534, Level: 52 Points: 14,534, Level: 52 Points: 14,534, Level: 52
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 22
Thanks: 2
Thanked 88 Times in 16 Posts
Default Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms

Gia Primo once got a 10 count pin on me with this after nearly knocking me out with a pedigree. She probably could have counted to 100!
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to farva For This Useful Post:
  #9  
Old 16-Jan-19, 07:17
Windycity Windycity is offline
Member
Points: 4,352, Level: 27 Points: 4,352, Level: 27 Points: 4,352, Level: 27
Activity: 9.5% Activity: 9.5% Activity: 9.5%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Gender: Male
Location: Chicago
Posts: 227
Thanks: 314
Thanked 252 Times in 126 Posts
Default Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms

I was put in this hold once. At least I'm almost positive I was but from the position I was in it was hard to tell for certain. I'm not very flexible at all so I had no chance of escaping. Very effective.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 16-Jan-19, 09:21
LicensetoKill's Avatar
LicensetoKill LicensetoKill is offline
Senior Member
Points: 12,856, Level: 49 Points: 12,856, Level: 49 Points: 12,856, Level: 49
Activity: 6.0% Activity: 6.0% Activity: 6.0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Gender: Male
Location: New York City
Posts: 2,223
Thanks: 2,907
Thanked 2,425 Times in 1,106 Posts
Default Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms

Quote:
Originally Posted by lasthero [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
One thing I'm continually surprised with in my first year of session wrestling is how hard it is to get out of a properly applied facesit. You wouldn't think it would be all that difficult, but once it's locked in by a woman who has even a half-decent idea of what she's doing, it's nigh impossible to escape.
I'm going to have to explore this. I love a good face sit, so I'll just not try to escape, until my breathing is short and then I'll tap and either they'll get up or they'll stay there for a pre-agreed to amount of time.

I've never seen it as a submission hold, and I'd worry about facial bruising if the struggle got too intense, but you've gotten me curious now about experimenting with it as a submission hold. I'd never thought of it that way. Though it can be an effective hold if I'm bound. I've done that once or twice.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to LicensetoKill For This Useful Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Twisted Arms flipme29 Wrestling & Fighting Pictures 14 27-Feb-21 16:24
Best arms ever Stylistajax Wrestling & Fighting Discussion 7 23-Sep-18 23:46
Mother in arms (f/f prostyle) Stone Wrestling & Fighting Stories 0 12-Mar-18 21:14
Best arms for RNC choked Wrestling & Fighting Discussion 4 28-Sep-17 13:57
Rear scissor videos pulling arms back? i love rear scissors Wrestling & Fighting Discussion 3 13-Aug-12 00:51


All times are GMT. The time now is 13:03.


Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.