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I just recently told this lady friend of mine (of 30 years ) that I always wanted her to scissor me and I could not believer her reaction . amazing
Ok, I'll bite.
What was her reaction??
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Ok, I'll bite.
What was her reaction??
she said I would not get out and she would put the squeeze on me .


I am putting it in a new thread called interesting development. It has more of a back story and what led up after 30 years .
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Good responses everyone.

I don't see how anyone in the business or professional world would respect you for being such a beta about things. In business, people generally like to deal with a lion that has a strong sense of direction.

Hiding things simply fosters distrust. I don't lie to male or females about anything, I just lay things out.

When guys lie to me a lot, I just realize they probably have a feminine upbringing. (I was raised without a dad, so I have some keen insight on this)

Now, at the same time, we learn from our female friends that a bit of dissimulation (a natural part of every woman's defense system and biology) is indeed wise from time to time. They use it a lot. Guys that use it a lot are........well........feminized.

Sorry if this offends anyone, but some hard truth.

Now, a good point.

What is the risk vs reward on disclosure?

We live in a world of strange, unintended consequences, but this works both positive and negative. Indeed, I don't think it prudent to wear a shirt listing your fetishes. Or, to go to work, stand on your desk, and then grab a megaphone and announce your love of women's wrestling.

But, at the end of the day, people like stories and narrative.

Let's scenario this out:

BILL: So, what do you like to do in your free time Jim?
JIM: I like to drink, play chess, hike, and I like to wrestle women in my free time.
BILL: What? You wrestle women?
JIM: Absolutely. It's fun and great exercise. There is this one woman named Monroe who beats me just about every time.
BILL: Huh. Wow. That's different.
JIM: It's quite a bit of fun. Let me know if you ever want to try it.

I'm sure many of you can come up with all types of negative scenarios in your head, but I think there is a less than 2 percent chance of anyone being fired over this and I still have yet to hear a single story in my time here.

If you have them, bring them!

As for you losing your wives/girlfriends over this it was clearly your fault for not letting her know near the beginning of your relationship. Now, you have a trust problem. This is your fault, not hers.

There are billions of women out there. I don't understand why any of you would date or MARRY a woman that does not love this stuff, if your love for it is strong. Then, hiding it from them is double trouble. As I said, women are masters of dissimulation. It's not wise to attempt to practice it with them.

ie: You shouldn't lie to women. They are masters at it. They will find you out. Trust me on this.

Just my opinions! Keep in mind that most people do not agree with me. Not because I'm wrong, but because the societal programming is STRONG.

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What would you lose if you told EVERYONE of your interest in women's wrestling or mixed?
I love this topic! It's a complex issue though; I think there are a number of issues to consider.

1) Mixed wrestling and women's wrestling are stigmatizing for very different reasons.

Mixed wrestling, because you're not only being dominated by a woman, you are sexually aroused by it. Traditionally, men are supposed to dominate women, and they certainly shouldn't be aroused by being dominated. I think a lot of the stigma of homosexuality rubs off here. Most women are not attracted to men who want to be dominated by them.

Women's wrestling, because you are getting off on one woman dominating and often humiliating another woman. If you know anything about feminism, you know why a lot of women would have a problem with this.

In both cases, feminism is largely to blame here because feminism tries to insist that men and women are equal. In the United States, anyway, "equality" is practically a religion. Wrestling shows in a very physical way that no two people are equal.

And as others have already mentioned:

2) Although our culture is becoming very open minded, many older professionals are still very conservative and vanilla when it comes to sex. In the workplace, there could be real consequences if these more conservative co-workers / supervisors got wind of what are considered "perverted" interests (not to mention, many consider wrestling sessions to be equivalent to prostitution).

3) It's just not something to bring up with the majority of people we know, since sexuality is generally considered a private and personal thing. For example, if a co-worker told me what he was into sexually, I wouldn't judge his fetishes (assuming they were legal), but I would judge him for feeling the need to tell me this information.

Obviously, nuance is a big thing here, and who you're talking to makes a big difference. I suppose knowing a co-worker for a long period of time might make something like this not such a big deal.

Although I disagree with you ("This is clearly because you didn't tell her about it in a proper man frame, nor did you probably know about the right timing...Much of you have become quite feminized."), I'm glad that producers like you exist. Your work definitely decreases the stigma of the fetish.

And, I think the stigma of female domination in general will go down a lot in the coming years. It already has over the past decade - thanks to female MMA, as well as a culture that openly encourages women to outperform men and even openly cuckold them.

Right now, in most situations though, as others said: you have very little to gain, and a whole lot to lose.

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As for you losing your wives/girlfriends over this it was clearly your fault for not letting her know near the beginning of your relationship. Now, you have a trust problem. This is your fault, not hers.

There are billions of women out there. I don't understand why any of you would date or MARRY a woman that does not love this stuff, if your love for it is strong. Then, hiding it from them is double trouble.
You have a very good point here and I agree with this.

A lot comes down to personality though - you're assuming that dating / marriage is a good idea.

Fewer and fewer people are getting married these days, and I think for people with very specific fetishes, it is more cost effective to make a lot of money and session when and how you want.

The threads on this forum, as well as on Reddit ([Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register], [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]) show that even under the best of circumstances accommodating fetishes in a relationship takes serious work.

So I'm not sure if it's worth the hassles of getting into a relationship to satisfy a fetish when you can bring up wb270.com or sessiongirls.com and have your dream session at any time - for a price of course.

That said, I'm only 32 and a very late bloomer professionally, so I'm still getting started so to speak.

I do believe it is my destiny to marry either a dominatrix or an escort though once I get old...

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Good responses everyone.

I don't see how anyone in the business or professional world would respect you for being such a beta about things. In business, people generally like to deal with a lion that has a strong sense of direction.

Hiding things simply fosters distrust. I don't lie to male or females about anything, I just lay things out.
Theres a big difference between lying and not oversharing. In the professional world there shouldn't be any need to lie about what you enjoy sexually because such matters shouldn't be coming up in the first place. Its not considered "hiding things" when you don't talk about your sexual fantasies, it's considered being professional. Its not a question of being "beta" or "alpha" its a question of manners and common sense. I've known guys who overshared about their sex lives and sexual interests. Most people either found it creepy or just thought the guy was overcompensating.

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BILL: So, what do you like to do in your free time Jim?
JIM: I like to drink, play chess, hike, and I like to wrestle women in my free time.
BILL: What? You wrestle women?
JIM: Absolutely. It's fun and great exercise. There is this one woman named Monroe who beats me just about every time.
BILL: Huh. Wow. That's different.
JIM: It's quite a bit of fun. Let me know if you ever want to try it.
We don't wrestle women because its "great exercise" we do it because it turns us on. If Jim had just mentioned that he enjoys BJJ no one would bat an eye but in this scenario Bill would naturally want to know why Jim only wrestles women and the answer of course is that he enjoys it sexually. Its like I said sharing this information would be as strange as if Jim randomly mentioned he likes doggie style.

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There are billions of women out there. I don't understand why any of you would date or MARRY a woman that does not love this stuff, if your love for it is strong. Then, hiding it from them is double trouble. As I said, women are masters of dissimulation. It's not wise to attempt to practice it with them.
This is probably the one point I can agree with you on. If this fetish is that important to you then you should probably find a woman that will accept that but not everyone necessarily needs it in that way.
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I love this topic! It's a complex issue though; I think there are a number of issues to consider.

1) Mixed wrestling and women's wrestling are stigmatizing for very different reasons.

Mixed wrestling, because you're not only being dominated by a woman, you are sexually aroused by it. Traditionally, men are supposed to dominate women, and they certainly shouldn't be aroused by being dominated. I think a lot of the stigma of homosexuality rubs off here. Most women are not attracted to men who want to be dominated by them.

Women's wrestling, because you are getting off on one woman dominating and often humiliating another woman. If you know anything about feminism, you know why a lot of women would have a problem with this.

In both cases, feminism is largely to blame here because feminism tries to insist that men and women are equal. In the United States, anyway, "equality" is practically a religion. Wrestling shows in a very physical way that no two people are equal.

And as others have already mentioned:

2) Although our culture is becoming very open minded, many older professionals are still very conservative and vanilla when it comes to sex. In the workplace, there could be real consequences if these more conservative co-workers / supervisors got wind of what are considered "perverted" interests (not to mention, many consider wrestling sessions to be equivalent to prostitution).

3) It's just not something to bring up with the majority of people we know, since sexuality is generally considered a private and personal thing. For example, if a co-worker told me what he was into sexually, I wouldn't judge his fetishes (assuming they were legal), but I would judge him for feeling the need to tell me this information.

Obviously, nuance is a big thing here, and who you're talking to makes a big difference. I suppose knowing a co-worker for a long period of time might make something like this not such a big deal.

Although I disagree with you ("This is clearly because you didn't tell her about it in a proper man frame, nor did you probably know about the right timing...Much of you have become quite feminized."), I'm glad that producers like you exist. Your work definitely decreases the stigma of the fetish.

And, I think the stigma of female domination in general will go down a lot in the coming years. It already has over the past decade - thanks to female MMA, as well as a culture that openly encourages women to outperform men and even openly cuckold them.

Right now, in most situations though, as others said: you have very little to gain, and a whole lot to lose.

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You have a very good point here and I agree with this.

A lot comes down to personality though - you're assuming that dating / marriage is a good idea.

Fewer and fewer people are getting married these days, and I think for people with very specific fetishes, it is more cost effective to make a lot of money and session when and how you want.

The threads on this forum, as well as on Reddit ([Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register], [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]) show that even under the best of circumstances accommodating fetishes in a relationship takes serious work.

So I'm not sure if it's worth the hassles of getting into a relationship to satisfy a fetish when you can bring up wb270.com or sessiongirls.com and have your dream session at any time - for a price of course.

That said, I'm only 32 and a very late bloomer professionally, so I'm still getting started so to speak.

I do believe it is my destiny to marry either a dominatrix or an escort though once I get old...
I'm not good at quoting things in message boards correctly (precisely rather), so I will do my best to respond. If anyone can tell me how to do it my replies will be more readable.

It's a fact that most women are not attracted to guys who want to be dominated by them. I learned this early on, but I was still confused about what made me tick at the time.

In fact, most of them don't want to be worshipped. They want attention, validation, but not worship from someone they like. (generally, exceptions exist to EVERY rule)

Feminism is a confused culture, destined to fail because it's led by women. Women are not generally very good at leading and some of my comments anger women that are more "feminist" in their worldview.

These women think Hillary Clinton is a feminist and their defacto leader, (well, at one time) when she is anything but! lol

I have zero fear of feminists and I think they are a ZERO threat. You will find most women dislike feminism as much as guys do, but I digress!

I agree with you that equality is a complete and total myth. Very good. You are way ahead of most.

To reply to you and Enigma at the same time, the point isn't to wear it on your sleeve and advertise "your sexual interest" to everyone.

Just be a man, and if someone finds out you like women's wrestling or mixed wrestling, be like, yea, what's the problem?

Enigma's points are spot on to be sure, but the key lies in the frame and presentation. For sure, a guy who "boasts" about it is certainly overcompensating, but the women around will be the first to be turned off, signaling the douche in the room.

Thus, this is not what I mean. I mean with your sexual partners, your good friends, hell, even family members, I really don't see the problem unless YOU are framing it as a sexual thing.

Because, that's not all there is too it.

I actually work with these girls and have to look into their faces.

They don't see this as a fetish at all.

THEY DON'T. They realize others do and that's why they can't latch on.

There is nothing fetishy "for them" when they are kicking a guy's ass. It's about the same amount of sexuality for most of them when they are smoking a cigarette.

This whole debate is being framed around "women's wrestling is sexy, therefore it's bad" and I"m here to tell all of you that it's bullshit and these ladies would love you a lot more if you maybe you stood up for them from time to time.
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Thus, this is not what I mean. I mean with your sexual partners, your good friends, hell, even family members, I really don't see the problem unless YOU are framing it as a sexual thing.
I frame mixed wrestling as a sexual thing because thats what it is to me and most people who are interested in it. Didn't you say earlier how much you looked down on those who lie? Well if someone asked me why I enjoyed mixed wrestling and I don't say it's because of the sexual aspect then I'd be lying and so would most on this board. And I don't know about you but I have no interest in discussing sexual interests with my family or with my friends.


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I actually work with these girls and have to look into their faces.

They don't see this as a fetish at all.

THEY DON'T. They realize others do and that's why they can't latch on.

There is nothing fetishy "for them" when they are kicking a guy's ass. It's about the same amount of sexuality for most of them when they are smoking a cigarette.
The fact that the women involved may not find it sexually arousing themselves does not change the fact that this industry exists primarily for for those that do get off on it. Its not much different then a straight man who appears in gay porn for money.

We all know why these mw videos exist, why they get put on porn sites, and why we're willing to pay hundreds of dollars for an hour or two with session wrestlers. Because this is a kink/fetish even if its not for the women who make money off it.
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This whole debate is being framed around "women's wrestling is sexy, therefore it's bad" and I"m here to tell all of you that it's bullshit and these ladies would love you a lot more if you maybe you stood up for them from time to time.
No, its not "women's wrestling is sexy and therefore bad" it's "most people into mixed wrestling are in into it because it's sexual for them and therefore not something thats appropriate for most conversations". Certainly not in professional spaces as you've argued.
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We're on the same page Ringo, just semantics.

Also, I grew up with a lot of sexual shaming and had a lot of hardcore feminist teachers that I hate to admit still have an impact on how I see this fetish at least a little bit.

I have admitted to a few friends about my fetish and got no shaming or bullshit about it. So I think my secrecy about the fetish is at least in part just a reaction to how I grew up.

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Just be a man, and if someone finds out you like women's wrestling or mixed wrestling, be like, yea, what's the problem?
I guess it's going to come down to one's priorities in life.

For guys with families and well established careers, what you propose may not be very realistic.

For guys like me with no real obligations, that attitude is a worthy goal. I like to think I'm making my way there given that I've told some guys once I felt comfortable talking with them.
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Sure Enigma, guys that lie cost me money AND time.

I have had many sessions and memberships cancelled because a wife found out or a guy suddenly got engaged.

It's poor form. At least some of them let us keep the deposit for the effort, time, setup, and back and forth communication in which some times it was plenty.

Yes, but that's the thing Enigma.

Is Pro Wrestling on TV a fetish? Certainly, Pat Patterson and some of the other gay guys might have had a sexual interest in getting it started, but like Hooters, and other companies, they have passed the point of being "a fetish".

Consider, if it was new, and you saw two men wrestling in the ring, SCRIPTED, you might think man, this is pretty gay!

What is this? Some type of PORN or something? lol

Yet, millions of people are fans of Pro Wrestling. They market it to kids, when the ladies wear less than our ladies at times, with kids in the crowd.

They do booty bops, facesits, breast smothers, throw their asses in each other's faces in the corner, dress and dance in a provocative way...........yet..............it's ok!

So, there is certainly a framing issue here at play.

Certainly, as a salesperson I could just go to customers and say.........hey Joe!

Want to buy my porn man?

But, that would be dumb, descriptiveless, and not a good selling tactic as I'm not conveying benefits or features.

And, there are a lot of fans that claim they watch this as a sport. They might be lying.

However! I can show you a lot of guys who tell me this AND I'm a personal example!

I CERTAINLY think of it as a sport because very few of the ladies are arousing to me personally.

In this industry and at my own company.

So, I am not like you, and a lot of our own ladies I have wrestled I have done so for fun.

Not only can I not get hard in a competitive wrestling match, but I also don't watch it later and get off. I also don't have an interest in watching mixed wrestling matches.

Mixed wrestling is FUN for me to participate in and I have a lot of experience at it now.

Meaning, that I would pay for it, and I wouldn't have a sexual interest.

On FvF matches, I like seeing the woman I like the most win and dominate in a given scenario. Most of the time, I don't even like the participants. MOST OF THE TIME, the woman I want to win doesn't win, or doesn't win in the way I would like her to win. There are very few ladies in this industry I like and they know who they are! lol (because I blew my frame years ago on that one)

Meaning, AGAIN, that I can enjoy it as a fan and not as a "sexual spectator". This has happened countless times. Monroe and I would be genuinely excited about a match, because we truly did not know who was going to win as our wrestling is real.

FetishWebDev: It is certainly debatable about whether or not this should be talked about with others, in a professional setting, or non, but truly, everyone lives once. There are things in life you don't suddenly blurt out, and this is no exception.

I wouldn't tell a lady about my interest in this until I have fucked her twice (as long as I made her cum, that would be the only way) until I would tell her about this.

But, I'm a fan of Final Fantasy and Game of Thrones, and I don't go talking 90 miles a minute on those topics either until she has cum twice. This, of course, is only if I'm courting her.

80-20 you should let her talk if you don't know her. Women constantly disqualify.

I bring up women, because if you are worried about the opinion of men, you will gravitate to the right ones as long as you are honest and true.

Guys that are overly judgemental and start trying to smother you with rules, you need to give a swift and total kick to the curb, that goes double for women. (in my opinion!)
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I never accused you personally of being like me nor did I say every single person who liked mixed wrestling liked it for sexual reasons, I said most do and you know it. Now be honest, do you think most of the people who use this forum, buy mw videos, and pay for session wrestlers are more like you or more like me?

And thats why you started this thread in the first place right? Not to explain why you feel the need to tell everyone that you enjoy female wrestling but to ask the rest of us why we don't and the reason why is pretty clear. Bringing up the fact that you, or some other guy, or some of the women involved don't personally see it as sexual doesn't matter. You all can frame it however you want but if you want me and most others to honestly answer why we like it then we can only frame it one way.

If mw wasn't sexual for me I would never have put the sort of money into it that I have nor would I care about the gender of the people involved, I could just save money signing up for a bjj class or just watch actual competitions.
Thats why I'm generally wary of people who insist that they only like mw for fun, why does the gender matter to you then? Why spend such insane amounts of money on videos and sessions? Going back to the scenario you posed earlier, Bill would want to know why Jim insisted on wrestling Women specifically, and saying its "fun exercise" wouldn't be a sufficient answer because you could do that with other guys too. Saying that you aren't attracted to the women involved doesn't really mean much either because there are women I generally wouldn't find especially attractive that become more appealing when I'm watching them wrestling. Others here just enjoy the sexual humiliation they feel from women winning and don't care about the attractiveness at all. But if you're going to insist that none of this applies to you then fine, I'll take you at your word but you must know you're in the minority.

Moreover theres a big difference between taking something that people like and adding a sexy element to it and doing something primarily for that reason. People that like Pro Wrestling may enjoy seeing women in skimpy outfits get involved but they also come because they like the stories and because they genuinely enjoy wrestling regardless of gender. For me and many others we have little to no interest in wrestling outside of this fetish. And even for those who actually take bjj, that isn't the main reason why they'll pay a session wrestler 300 for an hour of her time.

Pat Patterson may be gay but that doesn't mean that he created and marketed WWF for gay men the way these mw videos are clearly created and marketed primary for sex reasons. Obviously theres some people somewhere who probably get off on WWE but they are not the main audience.
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