|
|
Check out the latest release by Fight Pulse: Bianca vs Andreas. Preview photos are available in this topic. Get this video at: Fight Pulse - MX-251. |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#21
|
|||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
Re: Could a non-professional escape a reverse headscissor from a session wrestler?
Would definitely be be interested to read the story JLambert.
Added after 17 minutes: Kasie Cavanaugh is another who was/is athletic, skilled and strong enough to maneuver most non-professional fighters into a tight and absolutely inescapable reverse headscissor and either have you frantically tapping while making weird noises you didn't realize you could make (which is what I found myself doing more than once) or I imagine have you rendered unconscious rather quickly if she felt like it. and she has done this thousands of times to men of all shapes and sizes. Sometimes without much active resistance but I'm certain could have and has done a great majority of the time in a competitive match against non-professional or untrained men. Last edited by mookie69; 05-Feb-18 at 23:52. |
#22
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Could a non-professional escape a reverse headscissor from a session wrestler?
Quote:
|
The Following User Says Thank You to For This Useful Post: | ||
#23
|
|||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
Re: Could a non-professional escape a reverse headscissor from a session wrestler?
I have sessioned with Skylar. I am not a well trained fighter, but I am pretty big and in good shape, and have basic grappling skills. There is no way she would be able to submit me with a reverse headscissor if I was fully resisting . Her thighs are very strong (and look so nice) but scissor holds of any kind are very easy for me to break out of if I am trying to go semi-competitive. She definitely made me tap from headscissors, but it was when I was not resisting at all.
But you should book a session with Skylar and find out for yourself! She is very strong, a good wrestler, and most of all fun as hell. A highly recommended session. |
#24
|
|||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
Re: Could a non-professional escape a reverse headscissor from a session wrestler?
Quote:
And why do that when their are plenty of other viable moves to use at your disposal? And also, it matters on the nature of resisting. Is it a pure BJJ match with the specified ruleset? Or is it all goes where I can scratch and bite? Does it start standing, or on the ground? Because if i'm fully resisting, it's going to be a hell of a lot tougher to get me in a RHS while i'm digging my nails into your legs. Even without the dirty stuff, it's still difficult . Hell I've had semi-fully comp sessions with multiple women, some whom have been in the business for more than 10+ years, and they still haven't been able to get me in a reverse while I was giving it my all. Rather, they opted for more viable moves like arm bars and RNC's. And sure, lets say that there are a couple of special women who could do this. Doesn't make it the rule or the majority. The point he was making was that the best defense is not getting caught. The typical fetishy reverse headscissor lock isn't going to be the easiest or most practical move to catch someone in who is actively defending. If they fully lock it in, sure, you're fucked. But if they are trying to put you in, you do have a good chance of escaping, even if you are not a professional. You don't need to be Royce Gracie to escape from one. Furthermore, weight and strength play a part as well since grappling with someone who is several times your weight and strength can be a struggle. Last edited by HeadScissorFan; 06-Feb-18 at 16:35. |
The Following User Says Thank You to HeadScissorFan For This Useful Post: | ||
#25
|
|||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
Re: Could a non-professional escape a reverse headscissor from a session wrestler?
Quote:
Another thing worth noting is that when wrestling or armwrestling a female, you just don't go into beast mode. I reckon I'm only giving 70% strength on the attack. I often look at the videos of guys being pinned with arms wide out. Unless you're weak as hell, all you need to do is move your arms inward and together, but also form an attack move. Of course if you're in defensive mode 100% you're going to eventually get caught out. Of course against a fully trained female, you're gonna have a difficult time getting a submission. I've been in a position before where I was wrestling an amateur woman with a weight advantage and she was super competitive and she knew every single time when I was going for an armbar, or a guilotine or a figure 4. Its easier to defend than it is to attack. |
#26
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Could a non-professional escape a reverse headscissor from a session wrestler?
Quote:
Btw, of course your best defense is to not get caught, that's standard grappling protocol, goes without saying for any hold, especially REALLY DIFFICULT ONES TO BREAK FREE FROM. "And sure, lets say that there are a couple of special women who could do this. Doesn't make it the rule or the majority. " Who freaking cares about the majority rule? This is a fetish forum. We care about those minority instances where a woman legitimately is kicking your ass. Don't need reminders about how men are stronger, blah blah blah. Also, my last point was keeping it real. There are ways that a woman can apply a reverse headscissor that LEGITIMATELY takes a man by surprise and locks him in at least long enough to get a tap. Don't really care if you believe it or not, don't really care if it represents the majority of instances, or what happens on corny fetish videos (which I've already discounted anyway). It can happen and has happened and that's my point. I'm giving credence to the other side of reality that exists for which we all have a fanfare for or we wouldn't be indulging each other here on this forum to begin with. Last edited by G-Force; 07-Feb-18 at 04:22. |
#27
|
|||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
Re: Could a non-professional escape a reverse headscissor from a session wrestler?
Allow me the pleasure of completely bodying your post, and logic.
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Me and several other posters have mentioned a fully locked RHS is basically hopeless to escape from Me and several posters mentioned that the best defense is not getting caught You replied to that individual, who said Quote:
along with Quote:
Do you comprehend? No? Then allow me to break this down even further for those whom are questionable when it comes to intelligence.(you) He is saying that a reverse head scissor is hopeless to escape from when the hold is fully locked in. And that it's best to not get caught in the move in the first place. I'm simply explaining why your post was completely and utterly stupid. The reverse head scissor is not the most practical move to aim to get a submission on in a fully competitive match. There are plenty of other moves that are better and usable in grappling situations. You replied to him, and I simply decided to point out the idiocy of your response to him Quote:
Quote:
It is that simple. The rest of your post is unneeded. You replied to him saying that it's a misconception that it's difficult to get someone in that hold who is actively resisting, and i called you out on that Quote:
In all seriousness, even if it has happened, it doesn't take away that it's still a difficult move to apply to on a resisting person. Which we've now been arguing about, because a lot of us already know once it's fully locked in and you try to escape then , things become much much harder. But you'd know this if you read through the topic properly and didn't spend an absurd amount of time with that stick up your ass. Last edited by HeadScissorFan; 07-Feb-18 at 12:48. |
#28
|
|||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
Re: Could a non-professional escape a reverse headscissor from a session wrestler?
Quote:
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Karlchen For This Useful Post: | ||
#29
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Could a non-professional escape a reverse headscissor from a session wrestler?
Quote:
"The reverse head scissor is not the most practical move to aim to get a submission on in a fully competitive match. There are plenty of other moves that are better and usable in grappling situations....." Really?? You don't say? Wow, what a newsflash. Can someone get Captain Obvious a prize? "Me and several other posters have mentioned a fully locked RHS is basically hopeless to escape from..." Then you really are as dumb as you type. That's not true at all. It is perfectly escapable but it depends on several variables..AND THAT is the answer to the original question. "You don't need to be Royce Gracie to escape from one" hmmm, sounds like you're still confused here. Are they "hopeless" to escape from or are they escapable? Are you feeling ok? You still seem to be confused regarding the original question posed which had nothing to do with setting it up, or expecting it, or avoiding it...do you understand now moron? Unlike you, I answered the question precisely and then proceeded to play devils advocate to the useless side point of avoiding it. You on the other hand, like others, insist on insulting the intelligence of most everyone here, wasting server space by digressing and chasing down a rabbit hole explaining how impractical it is in a grappling match versus other holds. Well no sh@t Sherlock. My point was to explain how in certain applications it can be maneuvered in stages like any BJJ hold where you wouldn't necessarily see it coming. That's it. I even went to the trouble here of detailing real examples which you still apparently missed. Furthermore, I never said it was as practical as a RNC or Triangle. Also, sure, anyone can avoid anything when they are EXPECTING it. Why do you bother with belaboring something that is common sense on a fetish forum? Nobody cares about your "regular people" reminders. Finally, please learn to read at a basic grade school level and COMPREHEND a question before commenting next time. You are dismissed. Last edited by G-Force; 07-Feb-18 at 14:42. |
#30
|
|||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
Re: Could a non-professional escape a reverse headscissor from a session wrestler?
Quote:
The first move comes from poor decision making from the guy, who is in a front on body scissor and puts his arms up to try and pry her ankles open. when he lifts his arms she can put him in a scissor. I saw Jenna do this nicely a number of times. The second one I've seen Jenna do is the twist and the opposite side leg snaps the guy in a scissor hold. Its possible to get if the guy isn't aware of what's going on or is inexperienced. You can also see this from Liz Veyron. I still think you're better off going for an armbar though. I wish I still had my Jenna videos and I could screenshot it. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Any difference between a Reverse Headscissor and a Reverse Fig 4? | Ser_Jaker | Wrestling & Fighting Discussion | 8 | 10-Apr-23 21:06 |
How to escape a headscissor?? | Mufc | Wrestling & Fighting Discussion | 59 | 06-Jun-17 04:31 |
Could You Escape A Sleeperhold Or Headscissor Designed To Kill You? | DeathLock | Wrestling & Fighting Discussion | 5 | 16-Mar-16 03:18 |
Hot Brunette KOs guy in reverse headscissor | LoxLover | Wrestling & Fighting Videos | 15 | 15-Aug-14 14:42 |