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View Poll Results: Has any guy every escape when a lady has him in this pin? | |||
Guy: Never been pinned in this pin | 22 | 26.19% | |
Guy: Been pinned in this and have never escaped | 43 | 51.19% | |
Guy: Been pinned in this and have rarely escaped | 13 | 15.48% | |
Guy: Been in this pin and know how to escape it (please share how) | 4 | 4.76% | |
Lady: Never used this pin on a guy and don't want to | 0 | 0% | |
Lady: Never used this pin on a guy but I am going to try it | 0 | 0% | |
Lady: Tried to get this pin on a guy but couldn't apply it | 0 | 0% | |
Lady: Pinned guys with this and they could never escape | 2 | 2.38% | |
Lady: Pinned lots of guys with this and most cannot escape | 0 | 0% | |
Lady: Use this a lot and know how to stop guys escaping (Please share) | 0 | 0% | |
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Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms
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In this pin, the female wrestler has the guy in a reverse face sit, and has a sort of grapevine on his arms. On each side, his upper arm is trapped between the back of her thigh and her arm, and his lower arm, wrist and hand are wrapped in under her ankle and trapped in by her foot. In this pin she can apply a painful arm lock, and a full weight face sit smother on him, and she still has both hands free to thump him in the stomach to drive out any remaining air, or she can lean forward to grab his balls to quiet down any attempt to escape. Can anybody put a better name to this pin? I have been put in this a few times by some very skillful female wrestlers and I have never managed to escape. They have had me submitting over and over for as long they want, just raising their hips a little every now and then to keep me conscious, but never enough to give me any chance to escape. Has any guy ever managed to escape from this and if so would they share how it can be done? Similarly has any lady found a guy who can escape from this and then modified it a little so that he can no longer use that method to escape. If so please share how you did this? Last edited by pauldownd; 13-Jan-19 at 00:18. |
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Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms
I think the effectiveness depends to some degree on the length of my arms vs the length, thickness, and flexibility of her legs. With some women, I got my arms free but she was still on top and able to keep me under her control. With other women, I was completely at her mercy with no chance of escape. Girls with bjj expertise were especially good at this one, I think due to their flexibility. It is a wonderful experience to be pinned and immobilized this way.
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Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms
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Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms
For me it is more or less a fantasy hold.
I have to let the girls apply that hold on me. To get someone in that hold there has to be a significant difference in strength, or the one on his back has to be totally worn out, or he / she has to be totally inexperienced. I showed that move to many girls and when they got the right position and mechanism there was no way out. Furthermore it is a painful submission hold. The girl on top just has to keep sitting on your head and to lift her knees while leaning back a little bit. In my case girls with shorter legs are better in maintaining that hold. Antscha and Gia Primo are experts in using that hold. |
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Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms
I have escaped it by rolling my legs up placed my feet under her arm pits and straighten my legs throwing her balance..
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Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms
One thing I'm continually surprised with in my first year of session wrestling is how hard it is to get out of a properly applied facesit. You wouldn't think it would be all that difficult, but once it's locked in by a woman who has even a half-decent idea of what she's doing, it's nigh impossible to escape.
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Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms
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Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms
Gia Primo once got a 10 count pin on me with this after nearly knocking me out with a pedigree. She probably could have counted to 100!
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Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms
I was put in this hold once. At least I'm almost positive I was but from the position I was in it was hard to tell for certain. I'm not very flexible at all so I had no chance of escaping. Very effective.
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Re: Rear face sit pin with grapevine on arms
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I've never seen it as a submission hold, and I'd worry about facial bruising if the struggle got too intense, but you've gotten me curious now about experimenting with it as a submission hold. I'd never thought of it that way. Though it can be an effective hold if I'm bound. I've done that once or twice. |
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