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Old 05-Aug-16, 11:54
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Default Re: An offer to producers: I can make a great selling fantasy video

I just want to see a guy try his best but get the shit kicked out of him. Easier said than done I guess. As I write this I can't think of a video which has this.
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Ringo wanted you to purchase a "custom" the same way any other producer would handle your post. I was far from offended because being criticized over content that keeps me self employed, not to mention you viewed an 8 second randim clip for free, is absurd. I still hold out hope to be proved "wrong" and look forward to seeing any producer respond on here to take you up on your offer. Pack a lunch, gang...
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Old 05-Aug-16, 13:11
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Funny conversation here .

NewYork - despite my taste for videos is sure closer to your view than what for example SAF produces, I see your offer very offensive. You suggest they do it their way because they are too stupid to do it another way, and that you would be better at directing their videos than they. You suggest that after many years as a consumer, you understand their own business better than them after many years running it. You are not considering the possibility they KNOW what they are doing, they spend much more time daily thinking about their business and they REALIZE there are other ways how to do it, yet they have WILLINGLY chosen the way they are doing their stuff, for whatever reasons (which may include taste of the customers they found or even influenced, their own personal tastes, cost of making of the videos, what are their girls and jobbers, good at, what are they willing to do and probably others aspects me and you do not know about).

The stance you have taken - you are doing it wrong and you need me to do it better - is not very clever and I would be very surprised if you get a response like - oh, you are right, please enlighten us.

You should either start from the opposite position, assuming that they understand their job and knowing about the other options and asking them to enlighten you - why they are doing the videos their way. And offer your "services" only if it seems there is a reason, like "good directors are expensive and hard to find" or so. And even then, you should approach them with respect to their work that seems to be a sustainable business.

If you want to take it from the position - hey, you do not realize what opportunities are you missing when not doing it the way I think is objectivelly better, you need more than just words. If you spent so much money for this hobby over the years as you say, why not to spend a bit more for the opportunity to give it a try. You do not need to start a company, you need to do one video of your dreams, and then either pitch it to the producers or (which makes better sense) make it viral and/or popular to prove your point.
Look, its unfortunate I offended you but bottom line is they don't know what they are doing. They survive and prosper because we the fans have no choice but to buy crappy American videos with horrible jobbers. I really don't think Drew saying, "Are you crazy!" in literally every video he's in is something his viewers want to see. I think they'd all like better jobbers, or Drew shutting up.

DJ from MWUSA publicly has stated he needed to shut up in his videos. I was one of the many people who got him to shut up by telling him like it is. He could have been offended but instead chose to listen to his fans.

I spoke to the owner of LUSA videos on the phone once to try to do a custom. The prices of custom's are too much and I'd rather do a session myself. But I straight up told him his videos were stupid. I said when a girl is beating you and you rub her feet and say, "Mmmmm, I like feet" it ruins the video for me. I told him when Joe acts stupid like a mentally challenged person, it ruins the video for me. His response was, "Yeah, we actually talk about how we make stupid scripts. We make jokes about it."

As for your suggestion, I do not want to publicly be in a video anymore. But bottom line, yes as a fan for 20 years, I can absolutely make a better video that the masses would enjoy than many of the ones that are out there now.

And I give credit to guys like Jay Fox who actually come on here and listen to his fans. I also want to give credit to VeVe Lane because they do a great job as well in the few videos I've purchased from them. (I like to be a member to get all the videos, more than buying just one)
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Old 05-Aug-16, 13:16
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Ringo wanted you to purchase a "custom" the same way any other producer would handle your post. I was far from offended because being criticized over content that keeps me self employed, not to mention you viewed an 8 second randim clip for free, is absurd. I still hold out hope to be proved "wrong" and look forward to seeing any producer respond on here to take you up on your offer. Pack a lunch, gang...
No one taking me up on my offer doesn't prove your point that your videos can't use my help. I didn't come on here and say a producer will take me up on it. So I'm not going to be proved wrong. What would prove me wrong is a producer taking me up on the offer, listening to what I say and then everyone hating it.

And the fact that 3 of your videos were ruined by that 8 second clip is exactly my point. It took 8 seconds for me to decide I would never purchase one of your vids. That decision was made when I had no idea who you were, so it wasn't personal.
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No one taking me up on my offer doesn't prove your point that your videos can't use my help. I didn't come on here and say a producer will take me up on it. So I'm not going to be proved wrong. What would prove me wrong is a producer taking me up on the offer, listening to what I say and then everyone hating it.

And the fact that 3 of your videos were ruined by that 8 second clip is exactly my point. It took 8 seconds for me to decide I would never purchase one of your vids. That decision was made when I had no idea who you were, so it wasn't personal.
Your ignorance on the industry & top producers is noted.
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Old 05-Aug-16, 13:55
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are you looking for work (doing a really crappy job of it so far) or are you trying to educate us on what you like in a mixed video (assuming you buy anything)?
Wow I see you are still a drama queen
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Your ignorance on the industry & top producers is noted.
Instead of insulting and bragging about the life you live, lets try to have a discussion.

I think one line quips are a disservice to the woman in the video. I feel it takes away her power. If a dude was kicking the shit out of me, I wouldn't say, "I hate Thursday's." Why do you feel these quips make the video better? Lets discuss rather than insult.
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Old 05-Aug-16, 14:12
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Instead of insulting and bragging about the life you live, lets try to have a discussion.

I think one line quips are a disservice to the woman in the video. I feel it takes away her power. If a dude was kicking the shit out of me, I wouldn't say, "I hate Thursday's." Why do you feel these quips make the video better? Lets discuss rather than insult.
"top producers", don't have time to fight in forums all day with people. I'm happy to hear your offer New York, please PM me.
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"top producers", don't have time to fight in forums all day with people. I'm happy to hear your offer New York, please PM me.
Thank you! And you're 100% right.
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Wow I see you are still a drama queen
LOL I saw your ass kissing with Keri Spectrum the other day. How's the hobby site working out for you?
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