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Old 30-Oct-20, 21:58
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Default Re: Session rates are getting out of hand

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Originally Posted by mark.johnson21 [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
Right, so you're taking offense that I would rather hire a less expensive strong female to dominate me over a session wrestler.

As for what I'm looking for? Lift and carry, wedgies, and facesitting. The latter two literally anybody can do. And while the former does require a bit of muscle, keep in mind that I'm only 5'4, 133lbs. Surely there are plenty of women apart from session wrestlers who can physically accommodate this for someone my size and for way less than $400/hr, especially given the latter two kinks require zero skill or muscle.

So, I don't require a "specialist" who is an expert grappler, or has a black belt, or has a bodybuilder physique.

Now, while the session wrestlers are certainly strong enough to lift me, their knowledge of lift and carry tends to be severely limited despite listing it as a service they offer. I end up spending a good deal of the session having to teach them most of the different types of lifts -- and this is after they confirmed in e-mails that they can. They leave feeling great that they now know way more. I leave wondering how on Earth she could charge $400/hr without really knowing what she's doing. If I'm gonna have to to teach a strong dominant female how to accommodate lift and carry, I'd rather find someone who doesn't charge what session wrestlers charge.
Two things:

1. I can assure you I have not taken offence at anything you, or anyone else here, has written in this thread. Sorry to disappoint!

2. You are looking for something niche. Lift and carry does require strength and technique, and is not without risk to the person lifting you (even at 133lbs) as opposed to face sitting or wedgies which, as you say, anyone can do. If have the time to search for a non-bodybuilder / session wrestler who will lift you for less without you having to teach them then great.

But the same can be said for everyone here. Do people want to spend hours looking for someone cheaper, to have to teach them to wrestle / lift etc. That time has a value and some people on here don't want to spend their time looking for something cheaper when the time spent itself has a value.

And therein likes the crux of the issue - if people have well-paid jobs and/or busy lives and don't want to spend loads time searching for cheaper session wrestlers then they will pay whatever the going rate is for the person they want to book.

That doesn't make it a passtime for the very rich, there are plenty of session wrestlers at the more modest end of the market. What makes it a whinging snowflakefest is for people to want the higher end session wrestlers to lower their prices just so they can book them.

To use the analogy of the car again - everyone can have a car but not everyone can have a Ferrari. Ferrari aren't going to lower their prices just because you want them to or you think it's unfair.

Added after 25 minutes:


Quite a bit to unpack here:

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Originally Posted by adrock4815162342 [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
What some of you aren't getting is that we all want that same perfect scenario where everyone is happy but then some of you are saying let the market decide and that's just the way it is.
The market DOES decide the price.
  • A few session wrestlers will charge a lot and get a few bookings from a few people who want to pay a lot
  • Most session wrestlers will charge around the average and get an average number of bookings from most people who want to pay the average
  • Some session wrestlers will charge less than the average. They might be busy because they are charging less, or there might be a reason they have to charge less.

Everyone is not going to be blissfully happy in a perfect scenario - this is the open market. There is a mix of the middle ground where session wrestlers set a price and clients book them if they want to. Lower prices = more sessions / higher prices = fewer sessions. Supply and demand.

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Originally Posted by adrock4815162342 [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
I'm concerned the importance of money over everyone's choices and attitudes is souring the whole thing.
The OP's post was about money.
Money, at the end of the say is what stops people having sessions every day (see my point above about supply and demand)

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Originally Posted by adrock4815162342 [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
A lot of potential clients are being priced out cuz the session girls can't figure out another way to screen bad apples and we all accept less and less for more because the market should decide?
"cuz the session girls can't figure out another way to screen bad apples" - seriously? This makes you sound like a c*nt.

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Originally Posted by adrock4815162342 [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
We need to find common ground and set a real standard so con artists and elitists don't set the bar for us.
Do explain how con-artists set the bar.

By "elitists" you mean clients who are willing to pay the "outragrous" price that a few session wrestlers charge? Dry your eyes and book someone else.

I can't afford to buy a Ferrari, I can afford a Mercedes. I am happy with a Mercedes, I'd like a Ferrari but I accept that I will have to 1) work harder or 2) save money or 3) sacrifice something to pay for it.

So I happily drive my Mercedes and don't complain that it's unfair that Ferraris aren't cheaper.

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Originally Posted by adrock4815162342 [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]
A third party or something to rid both sides of the equation of time wasters and other assorted nonsense?
And you still haven't explained how your third party client and wrestler vetting system will actually work.

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