Xenia Onatopp custom videos / discussion

[MrJingles]

Originally Posted by Bodyscissors Toy [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

Exatly they mentioned what I thought they would and didn't really expect anything else.
Jingles what did you expect them to say? Famke is a shy person (something she mentioned in the video) of course wasn't gonna mention much about the scene and to be honest she didn't need to. You wouldn't ask a male actor to go into all the details about that type of scene would you?

I probably would ask him, yeah. But that's just me. One thing I did learn though was Billy Mitchell died. I honestly had no idea he'd passed. Never saw that info on Google. But yh fair enough. I guess it must be in my fantasised brain that I'd love to hear specific details. That's just me. Can't help that

[JayFox]

Xenia never really died in the jungle.

[JayFox]

Damazonia - Xenia Onatopp: Back for Revenge!

After the events in the Cuban jungle, Xenia Onatopp was presumed deceased. She received extensive surgery and enhancements which have made her famous leg squeeze even more lethal. Xenia is now back for revenge! This bone crushing, action packed never before seen sequel may be one of our most exciting videos yet. Once again, Damazonia nails the role and gets better every time. This resurrection is what Xenia deserves and her story has only just begun. Her first mission is to destroy the person who almost took her life; James Bond. She breaks into his suite, kicks him to the couch which sends him flying almost across the room. Her legs are twice as strong after her surgery and he will endure pain that he’s never felt before. She breaks his ribs numerous times between her upgraded thighs. More than half of this video is bodyscissors which Xenia fans will appreciate. There’s also plenty of headscissors which she uses to weaken his neck before the BIG finale. First, she knocks him out with a reverse headscissor, then locks him in a bodyscissor crushing every single one of his ribs. This long excruciating pain is only concluded by a swift neck snap which Xenia executes with her bare hands (includes a close-up slow motion instant replay). This is the return that you’ve all been waiting for. Xenia Onatopp is back and hungry for revenge!

[Onato]

Which reenactments of Xenia and Admiral do you think is best?

[MrJingles]

Sophia Stone. Definitely. She nailed the characteristics and actually made an effort.

[XOL]

Originally Posted by Onato [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

Which reenactments of Xenia and Admiral do you think is best?

There is not really one reenactment that came out perfect to me. All the Xenia videos have different elements about them that I like and that I wish that I could put them all into one video.

The best lighting that captures the erotic mood of the Admiral scene would easily be Andrea Rosu's POV reenactment. A lot of producers overlook this element of the Xenia videos. It's very important in my opinion.

The best opening/jump would easily be Rapture. She absolutely knocked that one out of the park. I put a few pictures below.

The one that I watch the most, even after all these years, is Jenna Preston's first reenactment, but that is mostly because of how gorgeous and voluptuous Jenna is, not necessarily the overall quality of the video.

[Onatopp]

Originally Posted by XOL [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

The best lighting that captures the erotic mood of the Admiral scene would easily be Andrea Rosu's POV reenactment. A lot of producers overlook this element of the Xenia videos. It's very important in my opinion.

I definitely agree with this, but across all scene reenactments; I fully get that Jay or whoever the producer is can't exactly make a specialised set or the like for a yacht/sauna/jungle setup because that would be overly expensive, but still.

It's not really the same but about ten years ago or so a German show called Mission Hollywood had a full episode of would-be actresses doing a take on the sauna scene, and they actually built a small sauna set for that, complete with bench/massage table.

[XOL]

Originally Posted by Onatopp [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

I definitely agree with this, but across all scene reenactments; I fully get that Jay or whoever the producer is can't exactly make a specialised set or the like for a yacht/sauna/jungle setup because that would be overly expensive, but still.

It's not really the same but about ten years ago or so a German show called Mission Hollywood had a full episode of would-be actresses doing a take on the sauna scene, and they actually built a small sauna set for that, complete with bench/massage table.

Yeah I understand that producers have to work around a budget and schedule and this will entail some limitations but lighting should at least be one thing that is relatively cheap to fix and correct. Meana Wolf and Lady Fyre productions have mastered the lighting in their videos and these are married couples working out of their homes. I don't know if you watch Meana Wolf but her videos are absolutely stunning and they do very basic techniques in the filming that help tremendously with the quality. I might also add that sound quality is another important thing that producers overlook. Another element that makes the scenes in Goldeneye work is hearing the breathing and sexual sounds of the characters.

I love what Jay has done for this community of fans but my personal taste tends to be a little bit more provocative and explicit. Jay caters more to the mixed wrestling community(something I have little interest in honestly) than anything and I tend to gravitate more towards the sexual and pornographic nature of this character and that's why I view the nudity as an essential element to the custom videos I ordered in the past.

All I know, is that if I ever actually decide to do Femme Fatale and Xenia videos, I'd really try to pay attention to things such as the lighting and sound.

Personally, I would absolutely love to get Xev Bellringer to do a custom video of Xenia. I bet she would be amazing in it. The only problem is that she does POV only. I was going to do a video with a model named Una Alexander(a real freak in the sheets type) but she got pregnant and that sidelined that project. But honestly, I'd rather just start setting aside this money for the possibility of investing in my own productions eventually.

[mrrassleswithgirls]

I just thought I'd reply because some of you might find it interesting to know that what all of you are describing IS possible but right now so expensive that it's not current relevant to your discussion I'm sure. However over the next few years it MIGHT become more accessible.

I work with heavy duty CIG. And for some time, ultra photorealistic CGI CAN in fact produce impossible to detect dead on accurate photorealistic video. It's wickedly expensive because to be truly photorealistic the most trivial minutia has to be totally addressed. But it CAN be done.

So my comment is, the ONLY way that the film versions of Ms Onatopp will ever be created that will satisfy ALL the criteria and be dead on is via CGI.

It would be a LOT of $$, but I work with 3DS Max, Maya, Nuke, ......... and it's possible to create dead on photorealistic video of such a thing that would last a few minutes, but right now we're talking very expensive.

The biggest problem is that in something like this, the wrestling, the really intricate interactions of the bodies, muscles, shadows, perspirations, reflections, and so forth, with photorealistic lighting, means A LOT of rendering and a humongous number of frames rendered.

Of course if you wanted a Famke Janssen look alike, you'd have to be VERY careful and it would never be able to be publicly available. But the thing about this kind of process is, then the intricacies of the encounter, the mood conveyed and the embedded "attitudes" of the principals can be tuned to a VERY remarkable degree.

Photorealism levels however would require intense rigging, base models of humans rigged to the level that would allow all the details of muscle flexing and responding to pressures (thighs expanding, flattening, tightening , and subtle shadows on the muscles, reflecting the lighting) ARE available, but such rigs would probably be $4000-$5000 to be able to wrestle smoothly, and be dead on realistic. And the physics engines that would be up to the task of making this completely accurate and realistic to guide the rigged "actors" would be very expensive to rent as well. But the point is, these tools do exist.

And then those models would have to be enhanced to reflect accurately the skin textures and tones of your "perfect" Xenia. Just thinking about this from the perspective of having to do it, I can remark that Famke had/has a really interesting face. She a deeply attractive but not at all "pretty" woman is how I would describe her. Her casting was excellent. Because of the way she looks, and because of her ability to channel the madness of that character.

She can convey a REMARKABLE number of things with just subtle facial expression changes. She can convey sexy, and yet she can switch to a psychotic murderess very convincingly, so your Xenia would not be able to be a "girl next door" type despite being very realistic and convey the facial menace that Famke is able to do. She will have to have a very unique look to her.

So a lot of thought would have to go into what this "perfect" woman would look like. With CGI, she of course CAN really kill, and you would want her to be both beautiful and yet a believable merciless murderer.

It would be an interesting but big project, but it is "possible". The rendering budget if this was to be UHD/4K might be $20,000 to just get started and could climb rapidly depending on how many "takes", changes to the scripting of the rigs it requires to get the rushes to look like you want because your "actors" have to be programed for EVERY move, eye movement, and all the details at every level.

So I get that this is all just academic, but thought it might be entertaining for some to know that what you really want CAN literally be done to a level of accuracy and to a detail level of scripting that may not be understood. And all this technology is evolving and becoming more sophisticated, so who knows, in 10 years you may be able to order such a video custom for $10K and have it be so realistic that if you didn't know it was CGI there would be no way to test it and tell.

[Raziel1984]

Or we could simply use deepfake in a decent way to recreate the scenes with other actresses, or to place Famke's face on the models, maybe with some new shot, like the full view of Xenia squeezing the admiral which is blurred in the original.