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Old 28-May-23, 16:19
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Mackenzie Dern filed domestic violence order against estranged husband
Court documents detail a messy divorce and custody battle between UFC strawweight Mackenzie Dern and her estranged husband Wesley Santos.

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Santos claims she gave him a bloody nose, Mackenzie claims she never fought back, for fear of losing custody of their child.

An interesting excerpt from the article:

"I never physically attacked Mackenzie, she is an MMA fighter," Santos wrote in a court filing. "I would never even try to get physical with her. I would have no chance."
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Sad,sad ,sad.






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Old 12-Nov-23, 19:49
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Well there are 2 clear areas Mackenzie needs to work on highlighted in this fight;

1. Striking defence. Rogan and Cormier were saying her striking had gone backwards, but in reality people like Hill, Torres, don't hit as hard as Andrade and Andrade also likes a ruck, swinging and banging in the pocket. Even the likes of Yan and Rodriguez (who beat Mackenzie over 5 rounds) try to be more technical and didn't engage with Mackenzie when she starts throwing wildly.

Mackenzie thinks she can strike with reckless abandon because she has no fear of being taken down. Taking Mackenzie down and initiating a grappling match is like Bungee jumping off a bridge with the rope around your neck rather than your ankles.

But she doesn't use her striking to set up a level change very well. The fear of the takedown can set up the striking.

That said her defence was extra poor yesterday but exposed by Andrade who likes the chaos and when she hits girls she tends to do damage, especially at 115.

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She cluld win easy

But she was Not Grappling

So i think she is stupid
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She tried a few Takedowns, which were easily stuffed by Andrade.

As good as Dern's BJJ is, her takedowns are not good enough to dictate where the fight will go against opposition of Andrade's calibre and physicality.
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She tried a few Takedowns, which were easily stuffed by Andrade.

As good as Dern's BJJ is, her takedowns are not good enough to dictate where the fight will go against opposition of Andrade's calibre and physicality.
Yes, success can be had by strikers who develop great takedown defenses, like Holly Holm and Joanna Jedrzejczyk
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Mackenzie Dern filed domestic violence order against estranged husband
Court documents detail a messy divorce and custody battle between UFC strawweight Mackenzie Dern and her estranged husband Wesley Santos.

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Santos claims she gave him a bloody nose, Mackenzie claims she never fought back, for fear of losing custody of their child.

An interesting excerpt from the article:

"I never physically attacked Mackenzie, she is an MMA fighter," Santos wrote in a court filing. "I would never even try to get physical with her. I would have no chance."
Maybe i'm wrong, but i can imageine that she is right, i guess also man can be very perfid!
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She tried a few Takedowns, which were easily stuffed by Andrade.

As good as Dern's BJJ is, her takedowns are not good enough to dictate where the fight will go against opposition of Andrade's calibre and physicality.
It also shows the difference between BJJ skills and having wrestling skills. She is one of the best BJJ grapplers in the organization, but has pretty poor wrestling.
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Maybe i'm wrong, but i can imageine that she is right, i guess also man can be very perfid!
People in this kind of situation are naturally willing to believe women more - but unless there is physical evidence, and on top of it they are divorcing and probably fighting for custody of the child, this is as close to 50-50 as it can get.

I love both their strategies though - "I wasn't fighting back because I was worried about custody of the child" versus "I would not attack her because she is a MMA fighter". It's kind of hilarious, I guess lawyers are working hard to justify their fees.

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Mackenzie Dern MMA sparring with her 4-year-old daughter
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