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Old 23-Sep-21, 04:44
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Hello there!

After reading quite some stories on this forum, I have found themes that I have questions about.

For as far as I know, this forum is for physical strength measures between men and strong women, the eroticism of intimate bodily contact when trying to dominate each other and female domination in general (usually the physical aspect of it).

Given this, I have found content on this forum that does not fit into this category in the slightest. These are:

1. Cuckolding. This is a power structure in which a man is married to a woman, but that woman already has a boyfriend. Here, the boyfriend is on top of the power structure, followed by the woman, followed by the husband of that woman (the cuck).

This has nothing to do with female domination. This is a male dominating another male with a woman as the link in between. If it weren't for that female link in between, this would be outright homosexualism. Therefore, I question the presence of stories on this forum that contain any such elements.

2. Sodomy in the form a woman putting a fake dick that is attached to her pelvis into a man's excretory system.

This activity ruptures a man's rectum, causing him faecal incontinence. This act is also emulating homosexualism. If you are a straight man, why would you want to have anal intercourse with male genitalia (even if it's in forged form) ?

If you are a self-declared heterosexual man who gets sexually excited at the idea of point 1 and/or 2, then my question is: what is the appeal of this?
And what do these two things have to do with the theme of this forum?
Why are you even on this forum, if these are the things that you like? Why don't you visit a gay bar instead?

Then there are two other things that are technically within the theme of this forum, but that I still want to mention, since I still do not understand the appeal of this.

1. Incest stories, usually involving the protagonist's mother, sister, aunt or cousin. Even if they are technically within the boundaries of this forum (woman dominating a man) reading about any form of intimacy between relatives makes me want to vomit.

What is the appeal of this? Are there actually forum members out here who regularly masturbate while thinking about their mothers or sisters being intimate with them?

This is an extremely unhealthy fantasy, since intercourse between relatives causes handicapped offspring.

2. Domination stories involving minors. With this, I don't mean 16 or 17-year-olds, but 11-year-olds. In my opinion, when you are writing about something that sexually stimulates you (like physical domination), having a small child being the object of this sexual stimulus is outright paedophilia.

As much as some organisations and companies want to normalise paedophilia (Netflix, with its "Mignonnes" film and drag queen show for children), paedophilia is not normal and it never will be. It's a mental sickness; one that poses a danger to the young ones in society. Therefore, I strongly condemn any content that approaches this sickness.

This forum has [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] against such stories (luckily!), but this rule was introduced pretty recently, meaning that quite a few older stories still have this paedophiliac motive, since they were published before this rule existed. It might be a good idea to remove those as well, just to prevent traumatising any potential readers.

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So, in short, this is what I wanted to address: why some people on this forum post things that are outside the boundaries of this forum (cuckolding, sodomy) and why so many people here post about incest.

I would love to read your answers.
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Old 23-Sep-21, 05:09
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Responding only to your last point, you should go back and report those old stories to a forum moderator so they can address it. Simply mentioning they exist without naming any titles doesn’t really help the mods solve the issue. Expecting them to go back and read through almost every story ever posted here to verify there’s no young minors involved in any of them is kind of unreasonable. There’s way too many pages worth of stories at this point.

If you find old stories like that that slipped through back in the day, bring it to a moderator’s attention so they can remove it if they agree it violates the rule.
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Old 23-Sep-21, 06:18
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Cuckolding and sodomy fit into the domination fetish that pretty much goes hand in hand with the majority of people who are in to mixed wrestling. I feel like cuckolding is more uncommon of the two as most people (myself included) prefer direct versus indirect domination. As for sodomy, it's entirely about the domination. You've gone on a weird homophobic tangent, but most gay men don't have anal sex often. It's pretty much a once in a while thing for all people. Also, if you're rupturing your rectum each time, may I recommend a little thing called lube? The hidden secret of every porn involving anal sex is that there is a long cut where a large amount of lube is applied and then gentle and gradual insertion occurs. That goes for real or prosthetic penises. I've only been pegged a couple times, but being choked with one hand and jerked off with the other hand while being pegged fucking rules and if she wants to tell me to jerk myself off while she uses that arm to flex, also great.

As to your last two, I can answer the minor stuff very simply, there are a lot more pedophiles out there than you realize. Like WAY more. People will post videos of a girl beating a boy at wrestling and I'll click on the link and it's a ten year old and I'll immediately close the tab and get angry that A) somebody posted that on a fetish site and B) that might somehow effect my youtube algorithm and it will think I want to see more of that. As for the incest stuff, no fucking clue whatsoever. It's everywhere, but I definitely don't understand it all. Maybe cause it's taboo? It's annoying cause it definitely ruins what could be otherwise good videos for me. Do you have to mention that it's your dad/step dad/brother every sentence? If it was just a couple times I could ignore it and enjoy the rest of it, but you just won't let it go. Either way, yeah, no clue why it's as popular as it is.
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Old 23-Sep-21, 06:58
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My guess is a lot of the people in the stories / youtube sections skew younger (basically free entertainment for people without money), may even be minors themselves. And older/middle-aged guys tend to be more into c4s videos and sessions (now that they have money). Or at least I hope it's not all middle-aged men getting off to videos of young kids. I stopped looking at the videos section a long time ago when I saw how many youtube videos of 10-14 year olds they were posting and getting off to. But Incognito may be right, there doesn't seem to be any lack of pedophiles out there.

My best guess about the family thing is if you lose to some random girl, you can ghost her and never see her again, but if you lose to your mom/sister/cousin/whatever, they're family, and it's harder to live that down and thus more embarrassing (but in real life, some people do have family members they kick out of their lives).

I do agree about the sodomy thing. People are into what they're into, and it's not like headscissors is something "normal" to be into, but the few times I've been on a webcam site (muscle or otherwise) and seen a bunch of guys asking the girl if she has a strap-on... well, asking a hot girl if she can wear a dick is probably the last thing I'd think of. I suppose guys just into regular sex might think the same thing about someone seeing a girl's legs and fantasizing about headscissors.
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Old 23-Sep-21, 07:29
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First, I want to point out that I find the attitude of this post disturbing.
It pretty much feels like: "If your fetish is not exactly identical to mine, I don't want you here".
I'd like people in this forum to be tolerant to various variants and kinks.
If something is not your cup of tea - you can simply move on to another post.

That said, I'll try to answer your questions to the best of my abilities.

1. Cuckolding
I do not agree with your description of the power structure in cuckholding.
The boyfriend is not necessarily on top.
The kick I get from Cuckholding (I get not all cuckholding fans are like me, but I can only speak for myself) is from the demonstration of high value by the wife ("She's so sexy, look how easy she gets a boyfriend, and how crazy she makes him!").
So, to that end, it's just another form of female dominance.

Another way to approach this is to say that we all like to be dominated, and if a male likes to be dominated by a woman, it's not that far-fetched that he'll enjoy being dominated by a male, too.
I remember reading a story here (which I cannot find again, unfortunately) about a guy getting his ass kicked by his girlfriend's (male) ex.
It took me by surprise, but I did find it arousing.
Does it overlap with homosexualism? Yes, it does. So what if it does?

2. Sodomy
This one is even easier.
It's clearly a demondtration of female domination, so it belongs here.
The answer to "why would someone like that?" is simply: "Because different people like different stuff."
Not everyone are you.
Others would ask how could someone be aroused by mixed wrestling. But here you (and we) are. There is no way (and no need) to explain why something makes you aroused. It just does.
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Old 23-Sep-21, 10:12
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At the end of the day, if some posts don’t appeal to you then ignore them - others may like them so stop getting into semantics, theory and trying to be a policeman
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We should have a section for Family and for those threads with stories, videos, conversation <18.....

The idea of clicking on anything approaching pedophilia very much concerns me (and sometimes they appear randomly in a thread). And there is way too much talk of those underage here.

Yep no interest either in cuckolding or sodomy.

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Just the idea of Pedophilia is vomit-inducing and can bring me to unspeakable amounts of rage (given the job I do in real life it is sadly very common to be forced to deal with these sick, sick bastards). As to the rest of your points/queries, the Universal Law of the Internet is in full effect.

Don't like it? Move on.

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Responding only to your last point, you should go back and report those old stories to a forum moderator so they can address it. Simply mentioning they exist without naming any titles doesn’t really help the mods solve the issue. Expecting them to go back and read through almost every story ever posted here to verify there’s no young minors involved in any of them is kind of unreasonable. There’s way too many pages worth of stories at this point.

If you find old stories like that that slipped through back in the day, bring it to a moderator’s attention so they can remove it if they agree it violates the rule.
This is a good point.

I haven't read any stories recently that contain young minors being put into situations like this, because I have only read recent stories on this forum last month, but before that (when I browsed older stories), I did find quite a few of them.

I don't have any examples to give right now, but I will surely report any such story when I find one.

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You've gone on a weird homophobic tangent, but most gay men don't have anal sex often.
I never meant to offend homosexuals. I just meant to draw a comparison between certain activities and the things that homosexuals indulge in, because of the overlap.

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As to your last two, I can answer the minor stuff very simply, there are a lot more pedophiles out there than you realize.
This discussion is out of the scope of this forum, but personally, I would like to know what causes a person to develop paedophiliac desires, and how to cure this.

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My guess is a lot of the people in the stories / youtube sections skew younger (basically free entertainment for people without money), may even be minors themselves. And older/middle-aged guys tend to be more into c4s videos and sessions (now that they have money). Or at least I hope it's not all middle-aged men getting off to videos of young kids. I stopped looking at the videos section a long time ago when I saw how many youtube videos of 10-14 year olds they were posting and getting off to. But Incognito may be right, there doesn't seem to be any lack of pedophiles out there.
When I was a teenage boy, I had fantasies with women in their twenties and thirties. I found girls my age to be pathetically skinny and weak. Now that I am in my twenties myself, I find girls in their later twenties the most attractive.

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My best guess about the family thing is if you lose to some random girl, you can ghost her and never see her again, but if you lose to your mom/sister/cousin/whatever, they're family, and it's harder to live that down and thus more embarrassing (but in real life, some people do have family members they kick out of their lives).
This explanation makes sense. I can see why people like stories in which the protagonist is overpowered by their mother or sister. The protagonist has to keep living with them, which makes the lose all the more humiliating (and will long-term effects, like change in the power structure of the family, where the female becomes more dominant and demanding than before, while the protagonist becomes more humble and submissive). However, this does not explain the incest stories, where actual sex (licking genitals, penetration) takes place between the relatives. I have seen stories where this happens, which I immediately stopped reading.

I find it foul behaviour to trick someone into reading a seemingly interesting story (where the reader gets sucked in and wants to know how it continues), only to slap him in the face with incest.

I think incest stories should have a clear warning at the beginning, such that readers who don't want to be bothered with this content can save themselves the time and energy and move on.

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First, I want to point out that I find the attitude of this post disturbing.
It pretty much feels like: "If your fetish is not exactly identical to mine, I don't want you here".
I'd like people in this forum to be tolerant to various variants and kinks.
If something is not your cup of tea - you can simply move on to another post.
People are free to like what they like. If someone here gets turned on by sodomy, cuckolding and/or incest, that is on them. I do find these acts disgusting myself, but that is not to say that other people may not indulge in them.

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Another way to approach this is to say that we all like to be dominated, and if a male likes to be dominated by a woman, it's not that far-fetched that he'll enjoy being dominated by a male, too.
I remember reading a story here (which I cannot find again, unfortunately) about a guy getting his ass kicked by his girlfriend's (male) ex.
It took me by surprise, but I did find it arousing.
Does it overlap with homosexualism? Yes, it does. So what if it does?
I once read a post on 8chan's /pol/ (when 8chan still existed) about the dangers of watching pornography. One anonymous user said that watching pornography is a slippery slope, since it starts with watching beautiful naked women, followed by those women performing certain acts, then with men penetrating those women, then with strange fetishes, then with tranny pornography, then with outright gay pornography and finally, child pornography. His argumentation was that pornography addiction turns you into a homosexual, and then (if you keep going) into a paedophile.

I don't know how true his examination was, because I never watch pornography myself, so I haven't noticed any effects of this slippery slope on myself, but I do remember reading a Dutch research where was being said that, as time goes on, people with a pornography addiction later need to watch more and more extreme pornography to still get turned on by it. That article did not specifically mention tranny pornography, gay pornography and child pornography, however; only the fact that pornography addicts need to watch more extreme pornography every time, which is already a slippery slope.

It could be that if your current fetish starts overlapping with homosexualism, that your next one will start overlapping with something that you should definitely stay away from.

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Others would ask how could someone be aroused by mixed wrestling. But here you (and we) are. There is no way (and no need) to explain why something makes you aroused. It just does.
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I can actually explain why I like physically strong women.
It's because they can give me powerful, loving hugs and because they can apply wrestling holds on me that are actually inescapable. My experience with training with "normal" (weak) women with Jiujitsu, is that even if they apply a submission hold on me correctly, I can still escape it, because the strength difference is too high.

Being in an inescapable wrestling hold by a beautiful women is also cute and sexy, because then, I cannot escape unless she relinquishes her hold, making me at her mercy, which is in turn also a good way to find out about her personality; whether she is going to tease me, make demands, make me say something or whether she will simply let go if I ask. But it's also the sense of admiration that I have for her; for her to be so strong to keep me locked in a hold; despite my best efforts to escape. Very few women are strong enough for this, so I would definitely be impressed.

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At the end of the day, if some posts don’t appeal to you then ignore them - others may like them so stop getting into semantics, theory and trying to be a policeman
I am not trying to be a policeman here. I am just genuinely curious about what appeals some people to certain things.

It should be obvious that I skip stories and content that I don't like. It would be strange if I would keep reading/watching content that only causes disgust inside of me.

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The idea of clicking on anything approaching pedophilia very much concerns me (and sometimes they appear randomly in a thread). And there is way too much talk of those underage here.
I fully agree with this one.

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Yep no interest either in cuckolding or sodomy.
The same thing here. When I first found out about cuckolding and sodomy, I genuinely couldn't understand how anyone could be into that, but I chose to ignore it. However, since I have seen this content on this forum quite a few times, I couldn't help but mention it and ask people what the appeal of these activities are.

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Just the idea of Pedophilia is vomit-inducing and can bring me to unspeakable amounts of rage (given the job I do in real life it is sadly very common to be forced to deal with these sick, sick bastards). As to the rest of your points/queries, the Universal Law of the Internet is in full effect.

Don't like it? Move on.
Outside of this forum, I have found content on the Internet that is even more traumatising. I even found child pornography on PornHub (with fourteen year-old girls), which I immediately reported to PornHub and to my local authorities.
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I don’t like too much interfering in those type of debate, I do it just because I have read, here, so many specious and misleading arguments, some of them looking like pure " bullshits ”
Bir Dormuz, I widely share your views on those different issues and I just want to carry my support to your position in front of such a biased and deceitful rhetoric.

Regarding pedophilia which could be, more accurately, named pedo-sexuality or pedo-criminality, the opinions seem unanimous ; it is a legal crime, however law punishes acts no secret intents. In this matter, a “ Zero tolerance ” must be the rule and any attempt to reintroduce this repulsive perversion, through subterfuges like “ Eleven years old girl fights an elder man…” must be barred.

The incest issue is immature, it brings nothing in matter of eroticism, its only meaning is “ Transgression ”. If relations brother / sister are quite understandable ; the phantasm mother / son is clearly related to the Oedipus complex… Dr. Freud, help us …

Then come the two last more controversial issues, both linked to sodomy and male homosexuality. ( BTW : lesbianism and female bisexuality are another, totally different, universe… )
Your post was seen as “ disturbing ”; not surprising, indeed, in the West, gays or bisexual men are always disappointed and disturbed by any opinion non strictly conform to their doxa ; they live in a parallel world where homosexuality is the norm and what they call pejoratively “ heterosexuality ” a weird deviance, labeled “ homophobia ”.
I will add two semantic remarks : sodomy is, now, a forbidden word with a moralist connotation, the politically correct term is “ anal sex” and when it is performed by a properly equipped female it is called “ pegging ”, both terms directly borrowed from the language of pornography.
About this issue, I have noted a real “pearl” in a previous post : “..a weird homophobic tangent, but most gay men don't have anal sex often.”. Firstly, just one advice, unless being proficient in ancient Greek, avoiding this kind of ambiguous words is a wise option… And, then, just a question : “ Are most gay men became, nowadays, fervent adepts of platonic love or disciples of chastity ?”

Regarding the pegging issue, it is, clearly, not a gay thing, as gay men don’t need neither desire females in their plays, women are banned from their planet ; but it looks more like a bisexual or crypto-gay fetish. Pegging could look like a humiliating and painful punishment inflicted by lesbian femdoms to despised males ; in this case, why using lube ? The harder punishments are the better… Isn’t right ?
Aside the pegging, with or without lube, the dildo fellatio and the mouth fucking are totally hilarious ; apparently the guy prefers sucking a plastic stick than licking a real clitoris… Not very straight, indeed… Like for the incest, the key word here is not sensual lust but also “ Transgression ”.
Why not ? Here, in South-east Asia, we have plentiful of shemales and other ladyboys, often called “ Chicks with dicks ”. Thousands of westerner amateurs, seeing themselves as pure straight men, come, every years, to visit the place, just for playing with the natural lollipops of their idols. ( Have a look at the “ Pattaya Ladyboy Forum ” and you will be edified… )
Just a single question to settle the matter “ Are women armed with fake plastic penises still females or another specie of Chicks with dicks ? ”
For a straight man who is, above all, a “ Yoni ” worshiper, with no interest in “ Lingam ”, the answer is clearly NO and the supreme symbol of female domination, after a wrestling victory, is a reverse facesitting leading to a forced cunnilingus until completion.

Cuckolding is a silly laughable mania without any connection to mixed wrestling and female domination : a compliant bisexual guy shares with his unfaithful wife, her lover’s cock ; what a pleasant “ Vaudeville ”… In matter of threesome relationships, I prefer, by far, the “ Golden Love Triangle ”, with me at the base and two fit Asian cuties, one for each of the two vertical sides.

Conclusion : everyone has his own fantasies and, unless forbidden by law, everything is allowed ; however, several fetishes don’t meet the terms of the forum motto which is “Male vs. Female ” and have their place in other specialized websites. In fact, this is moderately bothering as the topic concerns only fictions that we can read or ignore. As long as the pictures and the videos sections will not be invaded by pegging or cuckolding scenes and erected penises, we shall not mind.







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