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Old 09-Aug-20, 10:03
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LOL. Such butthurt as usual, garcon.

These guys are still proud fit and healthy males with no excuses and they lost. The girls side was simply too good for them. Deal with it.
14 years old boys are "young men"
And professional senior athletes are "girls"

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14 years old boys are "young men"
And professional senior athletes are "girls"

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Oh yeah totally. And where some girls can beat some guys. Such a bizarre world I live in.

I really hope for your sake you are just a guy having fun trolling this forum.

You're trying to tell me you've never heard a kid referred to as a "young man" or an adult woman a girl? ie "Bond girl" ?? They are perfectly normal terms, but you're clutching at straws because girls beating guys in real sports clearly makes you feel very uncomfortable.

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they are not from the same club. Women are from ŽNK TELEMACH GMT Beltinci which plays champions league
and the guys from ND Beltinci U19
And you just canīt say it is the same because ND Beltinic plays second league:
ND Beltinci donīt use their U19 as a recruiting pool.
They recruit all of them outside, and a few from MS Mura (14 years old boys who draw against the women).
NONE of them comes from ND Beltinci U19.

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There are no links between the two teams...

the U19 playing here donīt look like serious 18-17 years old players. they run without intensity, make nearly no pressing and donīt look athletic. The goalkeeper is a joke.
They are nowhere near an elite level or even a good level. They look like local young guys without skills from the 2000 inhabitants village playing on sunday.
But the women's team is from the same village. They come from the same place and are the only clubs there. So they have the same conditions and same talent pool. They also use the same infrastructure and everything. It's just a different name due to sponsorship reasons.

The women are amateurs not pros, they only played qualifications for the Champions League as the champions of their country.

The men team is a second division team. Which club uses U19 exclusively as a talent pool lol?

Also you're trying to play down and belittle the losing men like always. "They don't look serious" lol. They got their butts kicked and the women made them look bad. Great goal by the 16 year old girl


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talented young players from all over the world?
we are talking about the best female teams in the world: USNWT, national selections with the best women in the world being beaten by local academy youth teams.
And this happens on a regular basis, they are no single exceptions.
It doesn't happen often, that's why you only have the same few examples to pick up from. If it happens so regularly why do you constantly talk about the same 2 or 3 games all the time? I brought up many more example of when things are the other way around, even with teenage girls beating and scoring against grown up men.

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We are exclusively dealing with top professional women in clubs paying money attracting the best female players nationally and internationally against amateur local or boys team

What is the talent pool of standard Liege women compared to the countries lowest boys division teams
What is the talent pool of Chaponnay 2 compared to Olympique Lyonnais girls?
What is the talent pool of a kreisliga team compared to a female bundesliga team?
Because the men clubs from those countries bring in tons of foreign talented guys and the local boys who would otherwise play for better youth teams end up playing for low tier teams. Also many more boys train football than girls in those countries.

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And professional senior athletes are "girls"
They are not professionals. They're an amateur club. They're local girls who play soccer as a hobby. They often quit when they get older and get a job or start studying seriously. They still managed to beat grown up men lol
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Old 09-Aug-20, 15:21
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But the women's team is from the same village. They come from the same place and are the only clubs there. So they have the same conditions and same talent pool. They also use the same infrastructure and everything. It's just a different name due to sponsorship reasons.
Really i donīt know wheather you are retarded or if you are doing as if you donīt understand. This female team is the best by far of Slovenia. Most of their players are playing for slovenia in international competitions. They destroy every other team in the country.

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Didnīt you not notice they had players coming from Serbia or Bosnia, who all happen to be international players?
and you really think they are using a pool of 2000 inhabitants in a village?
come on, you canīt be that stupid...

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The men team is a second division team. Which club uses U19 exclusively as a talent pool lol?
Have you looked at the link i posted? they use NONE of the players of the U19. It is a small village with sponsors who built a good team with some money. They donīt develop the academy. They donīt care about the local youth...

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Because the men clubs from those countries bring in tons of foreign talented guys and the local boys who would otherwise play for better youth teams end up playing for low tier teams. Also many more boys train football than girls in those countries.
it might be that you just donīt read my posts. Chaponay 2 or Kreisliga teams are bringing players from foreign countries?

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They are not professionals. They're an amateur club. They're local girls who play soccer as a hobby. They often quit when they get older and get a job or start studying seriously. They still managed to beat grown up men lol
Your are really ridiculous. Do you think all these international players come in this village to play football for fun. What a joke you are...

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Old 09-Aug-20, 16:29
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Really i donīt know wheather you are retarded or if you are doing as if you donīt understand. This female team is the best by far of Slovenia. Most of their players are playing for slovenia in international competitions. They destroy every other team in the country.

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Olimpia 4-0 Lubjana Pomurje
Pomurje 4-0 Koper Obala
Pomurje 1- 11 Cerklje

They are not "by far the best", even in the results you quoted they lost 4-0 to Olimpia, who were also champions in 2018 when they played the U19 team. So they were second best at best at that time.

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Women's football in their country is amateur and there is no money in it (just like elsewhere in Eastern Europe), while men's football is professional and the male teams reached Champions League group stage, produced some of the top players in the world, while women's football is not near elite-tier women's football. And this is not to put down the women's football of that country but rather the opposite, it's very impressive that they were able to beat a U19 team of a second division club and almost beat U15 of one of the top tier lower league clubs in these circumstances. Even with much lower resources the women very surprisingly able to hold their own against these young men.


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Didnīt you not notice they had players coming from Serbia or Bosnia, who all happen to be international players?
and you really think they are using a pool of 2000 inhabitants in a village?
come on, you canīt be that stupid...
Well the male youth team is surely not using the players strictly from their village also.

Both teams have the same infrastructure to work with.

The men team probably has more money also because men's football even in second division is more paid than women's first division.

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Have you looked at the link i posted? they use NONE of the players of the U19. It is a small village with sponsors who built a good team with some money. They donīt develop the academy. They donīt care about the local youth...

You can see here that many of their players actually came from their youth system:
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it might be that you just donīt read my posts. Chaponay 2 or Kreisliga teams are bringing players from foreign countries?
No but other teams in those countries are which leads to better football talent overall. For example a very talented local guy who would otherwise play for Bayern youth academy has to go to a lower-tier club because some let's say African wonderkid took his place. The very talented guy takes a slightly lesser talented's guy place in a lower-tier club and the lesser talented but still good player goes to a low tier club and so on. This is why these countries have a higher concentration of talent in male clubs and vastly bigger talent pool to choose from (basically entire world). Without their top tier clubs importing so many talent from all over the world, these local guys could play for better local teams.

When the talent pool is more even, women are competitive with U19.

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Your are really ridiculous. Do you think all these international players come in this village to play football for fun. What a joke you are...
"International" players when they come from neighboring countries that speak similar language and are few hours of drive with a car away. It's like saying someone who was born in München is an international players if he plays for a team based in Stuttgart. They just happen to have a lot of mini countries there. I doubt these foreign women get paid much other than some bonuses, they probably just took the opportunity to move to a richer country with higher living standard. Living in a village of a developed EU country is better for many people than living in the capital of a economically much worse and less safe country.

Also on their Facebook site it clearly says they're an amateur team:
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Here is a list of their team, most of the women are very young around 20 years old, a lot of teenagers, only 4 have foreign nationality:
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almost beat U15 of one of the top tier lower league clubs in these circumstances. Even with much lower resources the women very surprisingly able to hold their own against these young men.
oh ok, you call again 14 years old boys "young men"
Lets finish it.
the best female slovenian team, undefeated in 2019/2020, all international players (definition of a player selected for playing for his country), got a draw against inexperienced boys of 14 years old from one of the best team of a lower league in Slovenia.

If you find it amazing, i am fine with it. To me it speaks words about how poor female soccer is and why nobody watches it.
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oh ok, you call again 14 years old boys "young men"
Lets finish it.
the best female slovenian team, undefeated in 2019/2020, all international players (definition of a player selected for playing for his country), got a draw against inexperienced boys of 14 years old from one of the best team of a lower league in Slovenia.

If you find it amazing, i am fine with it. To me it speaks words about how poor female soccer is and why nobody watches it.
The U15 team is from a first league team that won the cup this year and was on 4th place in the first division.

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You wanted to make it look like women always lose to U15 males, but it's not always like this. In fact in this case an amateur women's team almost beat U15 of one of the best clubs in their country and was 2-1 up until 87th minute when the unlucky own goal happened to make it 2-2.

Very humbling for people like you who want to completely dismiss women soccer as a "joke".
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To me it speaks words about how poor female soccer is and why nobody watches it.
If it's so poor, it only serves to make it humiliating for the losing males. Like I said, they're still proud young men - yes that's an acceptable term for boys/kids. Every kid into Football grows up wanting to be a winner like their idol Ronaldo, Messi, who or whoever. But many have to accept the fact they'll never reach the professional standard. In fact they can't even beat girls.

You bash these guys but they at least made the team. Many boys couldn't make the cut for low level teams, or school teams. Many kids these days are obese and sedentary and have to resort to a meaningless kickabout with their friends in the park or the latest instalment of FIFA on the Playstation. Old gophers getting their kicks playing "walking football." If you really played yourself you'd look around understand this but you're so desperate to put women down for some reason...
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