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Old 04-Sep-20, 00:11
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Default Re: Humiliation - is it even possible in sessions?

Hmm I don’t know if it would ultimately work or not but maybe a 2 on 1 session or even just a woman spectator would make it more real. If you’re not wanting to be humiliated in front of the other girl, that could make a difference.
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Default Re: Humiliation - is it even possible in sessions?

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I have this exact problem and I've been thinking about it a lot lately. I haven't figured out any simple answers unfortunately but I have noticed a few key points.

1. Like @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] mentions, I think there needs to be an element of surprise for humiliation to be genuine. This has been my experience. Unfortunately the vast majority of my sessions have not left me feeling humiliated. The pleasure was in the physical aspects of it - being choked out, being sat on, etc.

The exceptions have been with @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register], @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register], and Cypruss Allure. In both cases I felt humiliated because they dominated me in ways I was not expecting. And it wasn't really a physical thing - it was what they said to me (or MADE me say, in the case of @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]!).

Generally speaking the dommes that are best at humiliation are 1) older 2) intelligent 3) take their job seriously. We all know the session wrestlers (even dommes as a whole) fitting these 3 criteria are a small minority unfortunately.

To increase the likelihood of her humiliating you, maybe give her more freedom to abuse you so that she ends up doing something unexpected. With both @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] and @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] they got into my head precisely BECAUSE I never really asked them to humiliate me. It came about naturally.
OOOOH this is very nice to hear! BUT....I think we need to hear more about what exactly that horrible Scorpion lady did to you...don't we
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Old 16-Nov-20, 13:32
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Default Re: Humiliation - is it even possible in sessions?

I think it's the surprise element as well but it comes down to the girl too.

I had a session with Veve Lane a few years ago and we went competitive for the first half and domination/humiliation for the second half. Honestly she kicked my ass so easily that it may as well have been domination the whole time. However, I was genuinely trying for that first part, she's just a very strong woman and a great wrestler.

At the end of the competitive part she straddled me from her last hold and made me admit that she had dominated me and that it was her turn to play with me. That set the tone perfectly because whilst it was what I wanted, she had also established physical dominance.

She told me to suck her toes. I resisted a little at first but it didn't bother her at all. She just held me down in an armbar and used one foot to turn my face toward her and the other to block my nose until I opened my mouth, when she put her toes in my mouth. She then twisted my arm a little to make me wince and told me that it didn't matter if I resisted now, that she was going to have her fun with me and we both knew that I couldn't stop her. That was really humiliating to hear, despite it being a fantasy.

She put me in all sorts of holds to dominate me including an RNC where she made me feel and kiss her biceps and was taunting me the whole time and a bunch of different scissor holds where she kept me on the verge of passing out.

She ended it with a schoolgirl pin where she also made me feel her biceps and admit she was physically superior to me, and then converted it to a facesit where she told me to kiss her ass when I wanted to get up. I actually turned my head at that point and she grabbed it and turned it back into her ass saying, "No, no, no. You don't get off that easy."

I lasted a bit and then tapped, to which she said, "I told you, you're not getting off easy. Tapping won't help you; I told you that you have to kiss my ass when you want out."

I held on a bit longer but eventually kissed her ass. She just said, "Good boy. Now another."
She wriggled her ass on my face some more and said, "This is the punishment for not doing it properly the first time."

After planting several more kisses on her she let me up with one more, "Good little boy."


I think that the key to it being both my fantasy and still humiliating was that she'd already proven that she could probably put the domination set on me even if I was trying.

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OOOOH this is very nice to hear! BUT....I think we need to hear more about what exactly that horrible Scorpion lady did to you...don't we
You're such a mean bully, @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]!

In all seriousness, it wasn't any specific words but a combination of your friendly yet dominant attitude and some of the wrestling holds you used.


I hope your recovery is going well and you are able to come back across the pond soon.
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For me no, it is not possible. When you pay a girl to lose and she knows it (99,9% of the customers do sessions to lose, don't fool yourself) the humiliation factor flies away. That's why many of us keep fantasizing about more competitive scenarios, but stopped to do sessions.
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Default Re: Humiliation - is it even possible in sessions?

Humiliation depends on the person what humiliates him.

For me it’s humiliating to loose to a woman who is much smaller than me. And same time verbal teasing, laughing at me etc . and it has to go the direction of physical dominating.
Many years ago Mistress Amrita managed to humiliate me pretty well.

But yes: If I had a session with girl packed with muscles in a prof wrestling outfit on mats it won’t be humiliating cause I somehow expect to loose.
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Default Re: Humiliation - is it even possible in sessions?

I find it hard to experience humiliation in a session and in times past, I would have craved it as it goes along perfectly with the domination fantasy of losing to a woman. But the few times I have experienced true "getting under the skin" humiliation was stuff that made me feel really uncomfortable and I'd rather not repeat.

For example when sessioning against Ina black the camera lady was pre-emptive of my pathetic efforts to manipulate Ina's quite heavy and very powerful body and laughed quite frequently at me.
And to be honest, really pissed me off and got right under my skin. Nothing to do with the trouncing from Ina, that I quite enjoyed.
But the laughing at my inability was very humiliating.

Sadly I think its the unexpected and unthinkable that can provide the best chances of humiliation and those instances are completely un-plannable .

I find it hard to experience humiliation in a session and in times past, I would have craved it as it goes along perfectly with the domination fantasy of losing to a woman. But the few times I have experienced true "getting under the skin" humiliation was stuff that made me feel really uncomfortable and I'd rather not repeat.

For example when sessioning against Ina black the camera lady was pre-emptive of my pathetic efforts to manipulate Ina's quite heavy and very powerful body and laughed quite frequently at me.
And to be honest, really pissed me off and got right under my skin. Nothing to do with the trouncing from Ina, that I quite enjoyed.
But the laughing at my inability was very humiliating.

Sadly I think its the unexpected and unthinkable that can provide the best chances of humiliation and those instances are completely un-plannable .

I find it hard to experience humiliation in a session and in times past, I would have craved it as it goes along perfectly with the domination fantasy of losing to a woman. But the few times I have experienced true "getting under the skin" humiliation was stuff that made me feel really uncomfortable and I'd rather not repeat.

For example when sessioning against Ina black the camera lady was pre-emptive of my pathetic efforts to manipulate Ina's quite heavy and very powerful body and laughed quite frequently at me.
And to be honest, really pissed me off and got right under my skin. Nothing to do with the trouncing from Ina, that I quite enjoyed.
But the laughing at my inability was very humiliating.

Sadly I think its the unexpected and unthinkable that can provide the best chances of humiliation and those instances are completely un-plannable .

Added after 6 minutes:

I find it hard to experience humiliation in a session and in times past, I would have craved it as it goes along perfectly with the domination fantasy of losing to a woman. But the few times I have experienced true "getting under the skin" humiliation was stuff that made me feel really uncomfortable and I'd rather not repeat.

For example when sessioning against Ina black the camera lady was pre-emptive of my pathetic efforts to manipulate Ina's quite heavy and very powerful body and laughed quite frequently at me.
And to be honest, really pissed me off and got right under my skin. Nothing to do with the trouncing from Ina, that I quite enjoyed.
But the laughing at my inability was very humiliating.

Sadly I think its the unexpected and unthinkable that can provide the best chances of humiliation and those instances are completely un-plannable .

Added after 17 minutes:

Two experiences that came very close were,
1. When I was submitted with a facesit.
It wasn't the ass in the face that was humiliating
It was after an almighty bit of struggling, she underplayed my near death experience and said,"that was a good fight".
It wasn't, a good fight, I was fighting for my life, royally out of my depth and well and truly at her mercy.

She used to wrestle on top of two large mattresses on the floor and my head had slipped between a gap where the two mattresses met at the same moment she sat on my face.
With her sit bones digging into my face and it getting hotter and more unbearable by the second, all i could do was go spin around in circles, pivoting off my sat upon head.

2. Lisa King pinned me on the floor and trapped my arms so she could plant unthinkable hard slaps on my chest. After three slaps, I was shocked, stunned and ready to submit on the next slap. But she took mercy on me and stopped short of giving me my most humiliating submission to date.

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Default Re: Humiliation - is it even possible in sessions?

I discussed with some girls about this. And i feel that some has problem to umiliate "old" men.

But i like when OrsiB an Rada Gold is doing this..

Antscha said, i'm to friendly and then is difficult...

Also Tia is something in between.

I like to be humilated only as trash talk, maybe that they ask to kiss their feed. But hardcore humilation, like, make eat every rubbish or leech the dirty shoes. Such case is for me 100% nogo... i would nomore book this girl.
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I think I remember you! If you ever want to be humiliated like that let me know and we can make it happen

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I have this exact problem and I've been thinking about it a lot lately. I haven't figured out any simple answers unfortunately but I have noticed a few key points.

1. Like @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] mentions, I think there needs to be an element of surprise for humiliation to be genuine. This has been my experience. Unfortunately the vast majority of my sessions have not left me feeling humiliated. The pleasure was in the physical aspects of it - being choked out, being sat on, etc.

The exceptions have been with @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register], @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register], and Cypruss Allure. In both cases I felt humiliated because they dominated me in ways I was not expecting. And it wasn't really a physical thing - it was what they said to me (or MADE me say, in the case of @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]!).

Generally speaking the dommes that are best at humiliation are 1) older 2) intelligent 3) take their job seriously. We all know the session wrestlers (even dommes as a whole) fitting these 3 criteria are a small minority unfortunately.

To increase the likelihood of her humiliating you, maybe give her more freedom to abuse you so that she ends up doing something unexpected. With both @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] and @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] they got into my head precisely BECAUSE I never really asked them to humiliate me. It came about naturally.

One simple way to make this happen is to make the session more competitive in the sense of if X happens, then you need to do something humiliating - something she is allowed to decide on. Veve humiliated me precisely because I genuinely felt I had a chance at making her submit.

With Cypruss Allure I felt the most humiliated not when we were actively wrestling but once before we even started sessioning. Normally we change clothes and discuss the session before actively wrestling. But one time right when I walked in, after exchanging greetings, she lightly grabbed me by collar and I thought she was just playing. But she wasn't letting go, and making her grip tighter and tighter until she choked me out while still in my street clothes. Total surprise!

2. I have acquired a "tolerance" for humiliation that has made it harder to feel despite craving it.

Getting older also makes it harder because as you get older, you care less about what people think. You're also less fit (most likely) so a girl with dedicated martial arts training being able to beat you is not seen as unreasonable.

Adding a public element I think would really help. I haven't done this yet partly because of logistics but I think I will ultimately end up doing it if only to satisfy this craving. Probably by starting my own production company where people can comment on the videos (not to mention, get some cash for this expensive hobby) or by doing it on a livestream of some kind. Chaturbate would work for this. Maybe go on Chaturbate and take requests - whatever an audience member requests, you have to do!

Another way of doing it is adding some public humiliation aspects to your relationship with the girl outside of wrestling. Maybe take her shopping. There are dommes that explicitly advertise this! I want to try it but I haven't yet just because honestly I'm afraid of what she'll do. This means it would probably work REALLY well. There are ways to do it without getting too crazy - I'm certainly not going to let a girl walk me on a leash in public - but her comments to cashiers, holding her bags, etc would definitely do it for me.

3. Avoid getting too friendly with session wrestlers. I wrote an entire [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] about this because I have noticed many of my sessions are less than satisfying the better we know each other. I suspect this comes from a combination of 1) on her end, it's hard to be mean to someone you like and 2) on your end, the more flaws of hers you're aware of, the harder it is to see her as superior to you.

And yet...the less she knows about you, the harder it will be for her to humiliate you genuinely because she needs to know your insecurities to know what would really hurt you. So it's a fine balancing act.

4. Humiliation is primarily mental, not physical, so maybe try phone sessions? I tried one session on [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] and had a pretty good experience. By "good" I mean it left me feeling so uncomfortable that I'm afraid to call again. And yet I think about the session a lot precisely because she got into my head in unexpected ways.

5. Maybe do double domination sessions (hiring two girls at once). I haven't tried this but I know it would work for me. During one session with Cypruss Allure, Mia and @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] walked in. Unfortunately for me they quickly went into another room (naturally out of respect) but I noticed I felt embarrassed with the presence of other women in the room.


Let us all know what you figure out, I don't think you're the only one with this problem.
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I think I remember you! If you ever want to be humiliated like that let me know and we can make it happen
Yep we met briefly!

I am intrigued now...

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