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I don't understand why the "time-wasters" and "no shows" are always used to argue against lower prices or even for higher prices.
1) time-wasters: I'm new to the scene and wanted to do my first session around February. My options are London and Hungary and some session girls in Prague, Italy, Berlin etc. As we know, it's quite easy to find them, so I made a personal "favorite" table where I listed the ones which I'm interested in sessioning with. Obviously, I need to know their price to know with whom I want to session with, so I mailed around 10 girls and got prices from 150£ up to 350€. Those are mails which give 9/10 girls no (immediate) business. I wasted their time. And my time. Guess who didn't waste time? The girls of the submission room, because their time is on the website. In two cases I also needed to ask if the girls offer what I'm looking for because their ad just mentioned "wrestling" (wasn't on wb270 or sessiongirls). 2) no shows: Earlier in this thread someone cited a 200$ deposit for a 400$ session. And that doesn't seem to be the exception (50%). Translated: Those girls get 200$ for sitting on their ass and doing nothing if they get a now show. In the US, where those rates are charged, people work for below 10$ an hour. Even if a girl gets a no-show with a 50$ deposit, that's easy made money. That said, if they're traveling and had upfront costs, it's different. But if a few 200$ no shows brings you deep in the negative, that's probably because you're too fine to stay in hotels below 200$ a night. Also, it's often said here that girls raise their prices to filter our customers. That's not how it works: If a guy books a session while dreaming of his kink / being horny / whatever, pays 50$ deposit and later realizes that he's about to pay 400$ to roll around on a mat with a girl, he might think "better to let the 50$ slip instead of paying 350$ more". If the price is even higher, chances go up, if the price is lower, chances go down. The way to reduce no-shows is to increase the deposit, not the total price. If someone paid 100€ of a 200€ session, he's probably going because he paid half of it already. For a measure of good will, girls can charge lower deposits if they know the guy is going to show up (they know him etc.) On the other hand, I wouldn't pay high deposits to a girl that is not part of a studio (like submission room in london, wrestling monica etc) or has enough reviews in different places. Build credibility first. 3) price increases: Between August 2019 and today, prices of the submission room wrestlers have changed: Stayed the same: 7 175 -> 250: 1 (+43%) 150 -> 200: 5 (+33%) 150 -> 175: 2 (+23%) 150 -> 180: 3 (+20%) 175 -> 200: 4 (+14%) Most of the girls that didn't increase their price already charged 200£ or more before. If just one girl increased their price, customers would just switch to the others in the submission room. If you arrange your prices with other girls before, you don't have that problem. That's why I think "why does this thread still exists" is pretty naive. Personally, I still didn't have my first session because I don't want to travel to London or other places just for two session right now. I have my limit at 200£. Inferno was actually my first choice, won't do it now. My second and third choices are now at 200$ exactly, I'll probably won't session with them too, because I'll rather go for a cheaper session. That's fine for me. I could pay more, the point is to keep in mind how much you're *really* willing to throw at sessioning. If everyone goes with every increase, it won't stay at the new prices now. I chose 200 as a limit btw, because that's what for example dominas etc charge. |
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there are reasons girls prefer to avoid the guys making $10/hour and counting their money. they want repeat business. maybe this point will be clear by page 50? it makes no sense for them to focus on that part of the market, no matter how marginalized these guys feel.
also hotels in the US can cost far more than $200/night in the cities where the demand is. not even great hotels. the business district hotels in SF often cost $400-500/night, then $50-100/day for parking if you have a car. |
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Of course you need to know what´s the price of the session before booking, but how about choosing which girl you are most interested in and contacting her...and only if you are not cool with her price choose somebody else ? (Since you already saw prices at the website of the submission room it would have been easy to know right away if the price was acceptable or not). Just imagine if all guys interested in sessions write to 10 girls knowing they would choose maximum 1, how many mails the girls would have to respond to. In addition there are many guys trying to write back and forth with the girls, who never intend to book a session at all. May be once you had a few session you can ask a girl about time wasters, this may change your opinion. |
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For example, there are two girls in Italy which I'd liked to wrestle but which charge 250€ and 350€. After that was clear, I asked a girl in Prague. 350€. And so on. What if everyone asked? Easy, they would make their prices public.. So just ask And btw.: if there are two girls you'd like to wrestle and you know that the first one has a price you would pay, it's still nice to know the price of the second one. Maybe it's massively cheaper? Then you'd go with her. Implying that you can make an informed choice about who you'll session with if you know the price of one (!) girl (that's when you ask until you find one which matches your price) is bs. |
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And just asking doesn´t mean all or most girls would make their prices public on their website, they could have done that long ago if they would want to. I would personally never make the choice based mainly on the money, except that I agree with you that you should set a maximum that you are willing to pay. If you are interested in 2 girls, and you are travelling to their place, why choose the one that is £50 cheaper ? I would rather choose based on the reviews and what they offer compared to what I expect from a session. Unless of course you see them as completely equal, than of course you could choose based on the price. Last edited by Juvi; 22-Oct-20 at 20:12. |
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But if you are talking about ACTUAL SESSIONS, the wrestlers provide service that most dominatrices can't. My goals in a session is to be brutalized by a strong woman despite my resistance. most dominatrices cannot provide that. If what you look for can be provided by a dominatrix, then by all means go see one for less money. and if what you want can be provided by a crackhead, then go see her for $40. No problem with that at all. Quote:
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