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Wow, the results on this poll are really wild. People truly cannot agree on this question.
I think there's a few things to keep in mind:
1. A BJJ match is not a fight. Kayla is not trained to go for the eyes or the throat or to headbutt or bite.
2. Fights are chaotic, and only in complete mismatches is there a solid, clear answer to "who would win." One unexpected, clever, or lucky shot can totally change the course of a fight. She could certainly beat me 99 times out of 100, but perhaps there's that one time that I just launch my skull into her jaw at exactly the right time.
3. The poll doesn't set any parameters for the definition of "untrained men." Some people are going to be thinking "reasonably fit, able-bodied men from developed countries between ages 21 and 45" while others will be thinking think "a starving North Korean grandfather with kidney cancer is still an example of an untrained man."
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1)Kayla is not a BJJ player, she is an MMA fighter with a Judo background.
And while you can argue that MMA is still not a real fight, it's close enough to it to give you a truly ginormous advantage over an untrained opponent in a empty handed, 1 vs 1, no rules fight like the old school vale tudo competitions and the thousands of videos of martial artists destroying untrained people in street fights and real life assaults that are scattered around the web prove.
Plus you don't exactly need training to figure out that if you are mounting someone you can poke his eyes if you need to and stuff like that.
2)With "what percentage can Kayla Harrison beat" I specifically referred to men she has at least a 50/50 chance of defeating, like I already pointed out in the opening post.
3)I also already said in the first post that "untrained men" refers to men who never trained in any martial art or combat sport, it's a pretty simple definition that should not cause any confusion.
Did you even read the first post or did you just read the title?
Because as you can see I already addressed your questions there.
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And there's demographics we don't see often out in the world. 13% of men are disabled. 2% of men are profoundly mentally retarded. Do they count? I don't know, the poll doesn't say. When people think about "men," they tend to be thinking Chris Evans rather than Chris-Chan.
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When I opened the poll I was thinking only about healthy men or at least about men who haven't health issues that severely impair their ability to fight, not about men who are disabled due to severe physical or mental diseases, I admit I didn't address that one but I took for it granted.
Re: What percentage of untrained men can Kayla Harrison defeat?
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