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Old 09-May-20, 08:15
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Basically, if these rates are so outrageous, then why don't we see session wrestlers getting rich off of this?
How do you know none of them did? I met a few who set themselves up for the next stage of their life quite well. They didn't do that by charging an arm and a leg, but by being consistent and smart.

Some of the wonderful ladies I met taught me a thing or two about marketing, business or life planning.
The travelling ladies I met that didn't have profitable trips (bar the occasional disappointing visit to a city) were either not super organized or saw their tour as a funded vacation.
Between 200 euro and 230 euro never seemed to be a issue on either side.

Either way, the ones with high or absurd rates seem to have less fun. And since it's less fun for me to pay too much, I'm doing both of us a favor by steering clear
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Old 09-May-20, 13:32
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Assuming the money is taxable (often times it isn’t but some do try to play it straight) they are giving up anywhere from $90 to $114 of it in taxes. Then you have to factor in the space, unless they are coming to you they are paying rent on a space. Also, no session I’ve ever been involved with only takes an hour of the lady’s time. They have to show up at least 30 minutes early, and all of them take pride in looking the part so their preparation likely starts even earlier. Then they have to clean up after, total window is probably 2.5 hours of her time for that 1 hour session. And she’s passed up what could of been a half day’s work at an office job, or full evening bartending or waitressing.

By the time you factor out taxes, rent, and the actual time involved they are likely netting $100 per hour or less. And for every attractive guy they wrestle they likely have to snuggle up to a fat, smelly, hairy back bloke to even it out. $100 per hour is a bargain for the latter. As they say, it’s a luxury. If you’re fortunate enough to have a partner that satisfies your desire consider yourself very blessed.

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How do you know none of them did? I met a few who set themselves up for the next stage of their life quite well. They didn't do that by charging an arm and a leg, but by being consistent and smart.

Some of the wonderful ladies I met taught me a thing or two about marketing, business or life planning.
The travelling ladies I met that didn't have profitable trips (bar the occasional disappointing visit to a city) were either not super organized or saw their tour as a funded vacation.
Between 200 euro and 230 euro never seemed to be a issue on either side.

Either way, the ones with high or absurd rates seem to have less fun. And since it's less fun for me to pay too much, I'm doing both of us a favor by steering clear
You also have to factor in that they significantly less time to make that money than most other workers. One of the reasons why pro athletes make as much as they do is because they have to retire at 40. They might be "setting themselves up for the next stage of their life quite well" but that next stage is coming sooner than it is for the rest of us.

And, if some session wrestlers are making north of a million doing this...well...good for them, if they exist.
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Old 09-May-20, 18:17
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they have to retire at 40.
I disagree.. They want to retire at 40. The next stage of their life can also include another way of earning money.
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I disagree.. They want to retire at 40. The next stage of their life can also include another way of earning money.
You're really bending over backwards looking for ways to justify your viewpoint that the monetary value a woman is putting on her personal space is too high.

You should stop doing that.

It's gross.
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You were talking about pro athletes weren't you?

EDIT: Actually I don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth. You should not do that, and instead take the effort to interpret other people's words correctly.

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I disagree.. They want to retire at 40. The next stage of their life can also include another way of earning money.
Most pro athletes have a career that's only a few years long. According to internet search, average is 3.3 years for NFL, 4.5 for NBA. Very few people are like Tom Brady or Brett Favre and play until 40-45. Kobe Bryant only made it in the NBA until 37 I think. And the last few years, going back and forth to Germany, to get medical work on his knee. With the income of a session girl, she would have quit long before 37 with his kind of aches.

Now obviously a session girl is not going to be on their level in terms of physical ability, or physical demands, and she can scale things back (e.g., no competitive wrestling).

Smart pro athletes find a way to continue making money after retirement. Like Peyton Manning doing 30 second tv spots where he folds laundry and makes more than most people make in a year. Most are not big names where they can do that though, and just go broke within a couple years of retirement.
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America is littered with short term and never quite made it pro football and basketball players who fall on very hard times. It’s an epidemic that doesn’t get much media coverage because it would be wildly unpopular. So called “college” sports chew them up and spit them out. Even the ones who make the NFL, usually their money is gone within 10 years or less. Too many bad characters in their lives and too many bad choices.
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Smart pro athletes find a way to continue making money after retirement. Like Peyton Manning doing 30 second tv spots where he folds laundry and makes more than most people make in a year. Most are not big names where they can do that though, and just go broke within a couple years of retirement.
I agree it's smart to make money like that.
That doesn't mean working for your money like normal people is a bad thing, or that it is out of reach for ex pro athletes. Or for ex session wrestlers.
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Old 09-May-20, 19:58
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America is littered with short term and never quite made it pro football and basketball players who fall on very hard times. It’s an epidemic that doesn’t get much media coverage because it would be wildly unpopular. So called “college” sports chew them up and spit them out. Even the ones who make the NFL, usually their money is gone within 10 years or less. Too many bad characters in their lives and too many bad choices.
Agree, it's a lack of education, and usually the athletes come from poor upbringings/neighborhoods, so they fall victim to many things. I've personally seen people fighting over such small sums of money (imagine well under $10k), I can only imagine what it's like to grow up poor, all of a sudden get an NFL contract and be making $500k-5m (not sure how much rookies make these days), and having everyone from your previous life coming at you and trying to guilt you or trick you into giving them your money.

Steve Smith was a great athlete, and he tries to get other athletes to learn how to manage their money. Really great initiative. Allen Iverson, one of the greatest players of his generation, earned over $150m, and is now broke. He's only 44. He spent a year playing in a Turkish league (for very little money I assume) after he left the NBA. Luckily for him, he has a $30m trust fund waiting for him when he turns 55. I hope he doesn't squander it.

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I agree it's smart to make money like that.
That doesn't mean working for your money like normal people is a bad thing, or that it is out of reach for ex pro athletes. Or for ex session wrestlers.
What skills do they have to fall back on? A few can go on TV and become excellent reporters or broadcasters. Most of them have no other skills, and most are not household names. ESPN would hire Rich Gannon, but who's going to hire that guy that played 3rd downs for a year, and was on the practice squad for 2 more years? They will have to get a normal job, and such is life. They won't be living it up, that's for sure.
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