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Lucrecia 36 51.43%
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Old 17-Jul-20, 22:33
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Default Re: Lucrecia Adira vs Cristiano Ronaldo | Grappling Match

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I tend to agree on several things here.
But women practicing BJJ often report guys that they cannot submit,
even if they are beginners, just because they are too strong or exceptionally athletic.
It seems to me that Ronaldo belongs to this category.
He already overpowers any professional soccer players who are already exceptional athletes. These women would be so far behind on any athletic feature.
But i think it is not a healthy comparison. These examples happen when the woman is about 55-60 kg and the male 90 kg buff guy. Even that scenario it goes to draw.

This time weight advantage (35 kg) is on the experienced woman's side. Ronaldo is great athlete in his own sport but he cannot handle bot size and experience differences at same time.
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Old 17-Jul-20, 22:50
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Default Re: Lucrecia Adira vs Cristiano Ronaldo | Grappling Match

I have to go with Penaldo here

He would fake some injury and get the opponent disqualified lol
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Old 18-Jul-20, 01:27
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Default Re: Lucrecia Adira vs Cristiano Ronaldo | Grappling Match

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But i think it is not a healthy comparison. These examples happen when the woman is about 55-60 kg and the male 90 kg buff guy. Even that scenario it goes to draw.

This time weight advantage (35 kg) is on the experienced woman's side. Ronaldo is great athlete in his own sport but he cannot handle bot size and experience differences at same time.
No Ronaldo is a great athlete in general. And we already addressed the issue of the 35 kgs. Ronaldo has the muscle mass for himself
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Old 19-Jul-20, 11:38
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No Ronaldo is a great athlete in general. And we already addressed the issue of the 35 kgs. Ronaldo has the muscle mass for himself
But think like that, if Lucrecia have %40 body fat, the remaining mass is already equal to Ronaldo's. It is hard to see muscle definitons on big bodies but it doesnt mean that the muscle mass is low.
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Old 19-Jul-20, 12:00
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Default Re: Lucrecia Adira vs Cristiano Ronaldo | Grappling Match

Can we please stop these stupid comparisons...
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Old 16-Aug-20, 00:11
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Default Re: Lucrecia Adira vs Cristiano Ronaldo | Grappling Match

Although Lucrecia is surelly very strong, I think Ronaldo is undoubtedly stronger then her (cause his really a top class athlete), but it's not the whole point. If he doesn't have any grappling skills, then it all depends on how skilled Lucrecia is.
You can see many cases of bjj artists beating stronger, but less skilled opponents in grappling matches (for ecxample, here Rener Gracie sparrs with a 275 lb NFL athlete, who is surely stronger than him, but much less skilled [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] here a 250lb strongman grapples a bjj black belt yFBnwWTUBlg, here a marine grapples a bjj female athlete (he's clearly stronger than her) [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] - there are many videos like this, and people with grappling skills usually beat people without skill (or much less skilled) quite effortlesly.
Of course strength, athletisism, explosiveness etc are very important factors, but I think they start to matter mostly when the gap in skill isn't that big. So if Ronaldo is (as I assume, maybe it's not true) totally untrained in any form of grappling, then probably most of bjj purple (and higher) belts would beat him in graplling match (and many blue belts too, and even some good white belts).
Now I don't know how good Lucrecia grappling skills are (sorry for that), but they are probably at least decent, if not good or very good? Plus she has a big weight advantage. So I think that would favour Luckrecia.
That being sad (sorry for the long comment) if Ronaldo had similar (or even smaller but not seriously smaller) grappling skills than Lucrecia, than he would win - there's to big gap in strength, explisiveness, cardio (I agree that there is a scpecific cardio to wrestling / grappling - but if Ronaldo had some skills, he would also have some of this cardio).
BTW (this is already a total off-topic) if Ronaldo had dedicated his live to bjj or other grappling art, he would probably be a top class competitor with his abilities, something like Gordon Ryan (Gordon is 88, Ronaldo 80, but he would probably develop more muscle mass while training grappling) and then no female competitor in the world could beat him. But these are all total what-ifs, and now, assuming that he has absolutely no grappling skills and Lucrecia is at least blue belt level, strong, much more grappling-expierienced and heavier than him - I think she would win
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Old 16-Aug-20, 00:49
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Default Re: Lucrecia Adira vs Cristiano Ronaldo | Grappling Match

Come on. Is this for real? Forget the videos you see on youtube. A lot of highly ranked bjj girls admit that it's very difficult to submit big muscular men even if they are beginners. Ronaldo is probably 10 times stronger than Lucrecia and the weight difference doesn't mean anything because Robaldo is all muscle with very low body fat. Also, Lucrecia is not so skilled in bjj. She's above average.
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Stop simping.

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Default Re: Lucrecia Adira vs Cristiano Ronaldo | Grappling Match

Another one for the new "Can Women Really Beat Men?" bin.
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