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View Poll Results: Who is the best female submission wrestler of all times?
Judell Du Long 20 5.29%
Beatrice Goffin 10 2.65%
Maggie Jennings 4 1.06%
Sonia Fernandez 36 9.52%
Raquel 55 14.55%
Helen Von Mott 84 22.22%
Shannon Logan 40 10.58%
Kathy Gifford 37 9.79%
Nadege 23 6.08%
Liz Lightspeed 40 10.58%
Tiffany 29 7.67%
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Default Best Female Submission Wrestler of All Times

Dear fans of submission wrestling!

Please read the complete post before voting!

Since the time I started to explore the world of mixed & female submission wrestling I have been wondering about this question. Who is the best? There are so many names, and generations, that it seems impossible to compare those who never wrestled each other. But let's see what the wrestling world thinks.

Recently I had this idea to create such a poll and a video to go along with it, which is not a difficult task at all. What is difficult is narrowing down the list of wrestlers to 10. As you can see I never achieved this goal, and my list consists of 11 candidates. Don't blame me for ignoring or underestimating someone, I do not consider myself an expert of this field. Thus this poll. Also, I included only mixed wrestling clips in the video because this is a mixed wrestling forum.

Please watch the video before voting, and pay attention to the voting factors. You should only vote based on these characteristics of the wrestlers:
Technique - how good are her wrestling skills
Record - if you have the knowledge of how many wins & losses she has
Level of opponents - this is self explanatory

IF YOU DO NOT KNOW MANY OF THESE WRESTLERS, PLEASE CHECK THEM OUT ON THE INTERNET BEFORE VOTING!

So, here we go!

The video:



The list of candidates:

option # 1: Judell Du Long
option # 2: Beatrice Goffin
option # 3: Maggie Jennings
option # 4: Sonia Fernandez
option # 5: Raquel
option # 6: Helen von Mott
option # 7: Shannon Logan
option # 8: Kathy Gifford
option # 9: Nadege
option # 10: Liz Lightspeed
option # 11: Tiffany

Honorable mentions:

Lee Price, Zory, Ziggy, Jet, Heather Fine, Flamedragon, Viktoria M, Xana, Veve Lane



To vote, please choose your option in the poll above this post and press the "Vote" button. I would appreciate a comment about this poll or promoting one of the wrestlers.

Tell me, Forum, who is the best?
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Old 07-Jan-12, 15:40
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Default Re: Best Female Submission Wrestler of All Times

I have to go with Judell. She may not have actually been able to beat Beatrice or Helen or Nadege, but she never used BJJ, just genuine wrestling holds, and she was such a pioneer. So she gets my vote. But if you had a tournament with those ladies all in their prime, I'd probably take Helen just over Beatrice and Nadege and Shannon.
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Great idea although my idol Luzia is not in there. I haven't seen first 4 before, may be I'm too young for that. For me it's Helen out of other 6.
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Default Re: Best Female Submission Wrestler of All Times

This is truely a hard poll Zweig. I have to go with Judell also, for the same reasons Brsimmons just stated. It's almost too close to call on the rest, but I'd also have to go with Helen as my next choice, followed closely by Beatrice. As far as I know, none of the ladies have ever turned down a challenge & always give their all.

One name I'd add Zweig would be Mildred Burke. True, she was a pro, but she did more for female wrestling than just about anyone, except maybe Judell, & from what I've heard & read, could, & did beat just about any guy they put her up against.

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I've read about Sonia in the past and she sounds like the best as far as submissions mainly because of her killer scissors. She can supposedly submit anybody in any type of scissor.

I've seen all the others in the list before and I don't think they top Sonia as a submission wrestler. I don't think even the so called BJJ experts like Helen and Shannon could submit people as easily as Sonia.

Of course that's just my 2 cents
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I had a session with Sonia Fernandes couple of years ago, she was incredible strong - didn`t meet any of the others, but Sonia is my favorite

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An observation.
Liz lightspeed has the total body to defeat a man but is new to the sport.
nadadge has a body that well gives ANY man and advantage however she ahs been trained by Beatruce Geoffen or whatever her name is but the best mixed wrestler of all time.
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An observation.
Liz lightspeed has the total body to defeat a man but is new to the sport.
nadadge has a body that well gives ANY man and advantage however she ahs been trained by Beatruce Geoffen or whatever her name is but the best mixed wrestler of all time.
And that's why you vote for Tiffany?
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Tiffany is the best.
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About these candidates I vote Shannon Logan,only because she is more cute and feminine but the best is Viktoria M.
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