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Old 07-Nov-13, 17:23
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Default Grapevine by petite girl

Although sometimes I was in fights, I have never been grapevined by anybody. So I have this little question.

We can read a lot of tales, session reports or real life stories, where skillful female grapevines male, even if she is smaller/weaker in general. In some stories, females are smaller and weaker, but they have strong legs.

However, most of females' legs are weaker than most males'. At least, I think, an average girl's legs are slightly weaker than average guy's. So, this is a question.

Is grapevine a pretty common (for any attacker) agvantantageous position or no? I mean, could any weaker-legs-person grapevine the stronger-legs-person? Maybe, wrapping legs around hips is too efficient leverage to block resisting? If it is true, then, a lot of slightly-weaker-legs girls could apply grapevine on guys.

If not, then, most of guys could resist easily, draw legs together and block grapevine attempts.

I assume, theoretically, average 170cm girl could grapevine 180cm guy, and 160cm girl could apply grapevine on 170-175cm guy. But what is the maximum size difference for this? What about weaker, but skillful 155cm girl, applying this hold on 185cm guy? Is it possible?

How petite the girl could be to apply it successfully?
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Old 07-Nov-13, 17:29
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Default Re: Grapevine by petite girl

I can answer only for myself. I'm 5'3. Can apply the hold to a bigger guy if I'm quick enough......but I can't hold it.
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Default Re: Grapevine by petite girl

In my experience a grapevine (one leg) or double grapevine (both legs) is only useful when the wrestler applying it already has control of her opponent's upper body. the grapevine immobilizes legs, preventing bridging, and helps control the hips, lessening the possibility of a roll-out reversal. It also has psychological potential in that when it is well applied and the guy is unable to escape, he feels feel well and truly pinned, and is perhaps more likely to surrender to what increasingly seems the inevitable. Lots of women have good lower body strength, and for them the grapevine finish might seem a natural, allowing them to deploy calf, thigh, buttock, and belly muscle to full potential. they still have to have their opponent in a headlock though and distribute their weight effectively on his belly and chest. If you are more than friends, it is a very sensual hold as well, and can quickly segue into an erotic acknowledgement that the victorious wrestler has "taken" her opponent.

/Try leg wrestling first to see who has the stronger legs. Lots of women will surprise you.

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Default Re: Grapevine by petite girl

I've been grapevined by a 6 foot girl and a 5'5 girl, I'm 5'10.
The taller girl had more leverage, impossible to escape. The shorter girl's I could get out of.
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Old 24-Nov-13, 13:34
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Default Re: Grapevine by petite girl

About 10 years ago I was dating a girl and she was 5,8 and I was 5,10. I was a lot bigger than her, but one day we were play fighting and she got me in a grapevine pin. She didn't know what it was, but she applied it very well and I could not stop her. Her legs were quite strong from years of dancing, but the main reason it hurt so much was because of her flexibility. Women tend to be more flexible than men and are able to spread their legs out further.
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Default Re: Grapevine by petite girl

A girl of 5'8 petite ?
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Default Re: Grapevine by petite girl

my GF is 5foot3 and i am 6foot 3. we squat about the same. but she has a lot of strengt in her butt, adductor and outside of her thighs. if she applies a grapevine on me she can make me tap out
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my GF is 5foot3 and i am 6foot 3. we squat about the same. but she has a lot of strengt in her butt, adductor and outside of her thighs. if she applies a grapevine on me she can make me tap out
You squat the same as someone who's a foot shorter than you??
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Default Re: Grapevine by petite girl

yep.. i know i sounds weird. but we both lift about 130kg ass to grass.. squatting isnt my best exercise.. but she is really strong for her wheight.
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Default Re: Grapevine by petite girl

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I assume, theoretically, average 170cm girl could grapevine 180cm guy, and 160cm girl could apply grapevine on 170-175cm guy. But what is the maximum size difference for this? What about weaker, but skillful 155cm girl, applying this hold on 185cm guy? Is it possible?

How petite the girl could be to apply it successfully?

My ex-wife is 159 cm, 60 kilos and could hold me quite easly my 187 cm and 130 kilos ! She is doing karate, but never the less i'm quite dtrong and i can easly push 250 kilos by my legs! Ola from Femwrestle (166 cm, 58 Kilos) has probably the strongest legs as no BB. She did the Grapvin in a way that hurt my seriously. It was an ugly feeling.
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