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'Minikillers' is a 1969 German production made in Spain, comprising of four seven minute episodes. There's no dialogue, but the music is exceptionally groovy. The story, such as it is, revolves around a criminal network that uses creepy walking dolls to both smuggle heroin and to knock off members of the Interpol team investigating them. The dolls do this in a very novel way: their tiny tears are deadly poison.
Interesting. The style of Minikillers is so much like the Avengers that one has to guess either it's a conscious imitation or it's done by some of the same people.

I'm surprised she did it. Maybe it was a favor for a friend.
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It was much more than that for me. Emma Peel fought with a sense of style. She looked like she enjoyed beating up men, and she sometimes took her time to thoroughly beat a man up using martial arts moves. Her fights were really sexy to me.
I agree, she had a real presence and her figure and fights really made the Avengers for me (mind the plots were daft!).

When the series started I was in my late teens and she really reinforced my fantasies of being overpowered by a girls!

My main disappointment was that having knocked a crook to the ground, she never straddled or sat on him to keep him down -or even better -sat on him while she hogtied him.

I watched endless episodes in the hope that this would happen...but I don't think it ever did!!




I'd have loved to see her sitting on a pile of defeated blokes in this photo, rather than a tree root!



or even better the face of a defeated victim rather than a couch arm in this one!
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For me, the best fight scene of Mis Peel :
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I loved her, too. Extravagantly. I’m sure that over the last 60 years, I’ve thought of her more than any other female ass-kicker. Yes, she certainly had great style.

Still, it’s worth wondering whether she would have stood out so much in a later time. By the ‘90s or so, we had Xena, VIP, Nikita, Relic Hunter, Dark Angel, Buffy (and it’s bad girls), Black Scorpion, Alias, Queen of Swords, She Spies, Sheena, Spy Game, Mortal Combat, Pacific Blue, Nia Peebles on Walker, various women on the Robin Hood series, one on Sindbad, Chuck, Cleopatra 2020, the girl on Martial Law, Mutant X and more. I might be getting my decades mixed up, but you get the idea. And that’s just network television serious. No movies and no video services.

I must admit that when I think of female ass-kickers, I still think of Mrs. Peel. But I suspect that’s in part because she came so early, and in a time that was, relatively speaking, a desert for some of us. Some of these other series certainly had scenes that measured up.
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I’m sure that over the last 60 years, I’ve thought of her more than any other female ass-kicker. Yes, she certainly had great style.
Those are my thoughts too. A movie titled "Lovely But Deadly" is another way to describe Emma Peel. Sondra Curie also beat up men and women with style in the movie "Policewomen".
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I read that the first scene with her in that outfit (when introduced to the Hellfire Club members) was cut out of it's first showing in America

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I read that the first scene with her in that outfit (when introduced to the Hellfire Club members) was cut out of it's first showing in America

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I read in one of the Avengers books that they didn't broadcast the episode at all! But, according to legend, the TV Execs kept a videotape of it in a cupboard, to bring out and watch privately at their own Christmas Parties.

I think Diana benefitted from having more exposure, despite coming after Honor Blackman in the series. Here in the UK, very few homes had TVs until the mid-1960s, and so people missed the earlier Blackman live broadcasts. And the States didn't pick up the first three Avengers series because they were videotaped in Black & White rather than filmed. So nobody got to see Honor until her appearance in Goldfinger.

Also, if I may be a bit more controversial - and risk upsetting my American cousins - many of us look back fondly on the 1960s Avengers because what followed in the 1970s was basically rubbish, and a distinct step backwards. Yes, Lynda Carter looked absolutely wonderful in that costume, but with her super-strength and gadgets, how often did we see her using judo or karate? Certainly not in every episode like Mrs. Peel. And as for Charlie's Angels and the Bionic Woman, the shows didn't want to risk a hair being out of place by asking the actresses to do anything even mildly physical. OK, rant over...
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Also, if I may be a bit more controversial - and risk upsetting my American cousins - many of us look back fondly on the 1960s Avengers because what followed in the 1970s was basically rubbish, and a distinct step backwards. Yes, Lynda Carter looked absolutely wonderful in that costume, but with her super-strength and gadgets, how often did we see her using judo or karate? Certainly not in every episode like Mrs. Peel. And as for Charlie's Angels and the Bionic Woman, the shows didn't want to risk a hair being out of place by asking the actresses to do anything even mildly physical. OK, rant over...
There's no denying so many of the US produced female "action" shows of the 70's were sorely lacking in the ass-kicking department. However, more often than not, it wasn't so much about protecting the actor's appearance, but more about the wider attidudes of the time - which were that women fighting simply wasn't ladylike.

When Batgirl was introduced in third season of the Adam West Batman series, her involvement in fights is notable in that she never throws a single punch. Because apparently kicking bad guys in the face (which was literally her only move!) is much more accceptable for a young woman That same edict was placed on Wonder Woman, certainly up to its final season when the fight scenes did mix things up a bit. Prior to that though, literally every confrontation between Diana and a particular episode's henchmen would culminate in them being thrown into a nearby pile of cardboard boxes/greenery/body of water/etc.

At the same time though, I think the memory cheats a little with some of the Avenger's fights too. Don't get me wrong, in terms of actual fight action, the Avengers is clearly miles ahead of anything offered in the years that immediately followed. But the show was still very much playing the book in terms of male/female roles a lot of the time. Barely an episode goes by without Emma being captured and placed in some kind of danger, before Steed arrives to rescue her. Whereas the amount of time those roles were reversed are very few and far between.

As for the fight choreography itself, whilst the series was still in black and white, there are more than a few occassions during fight scenes where Diana Rigg is clearly being doubled for by some burly broad-shouldered geezer in a wig. Obviously, this was being made at a time when people were watching the show on pretty basic television sets, and there was no expectation that any TV show would ever be watched again, much less on repeated viewings. With that being the case then, it was perfect acceptable if Emma's "double" was often anything but. But watching some of those fights now, it can be quite jarring.

Things certainly improved during the colour years, when Cyd Child became the show's regular stuntwoman (and later went on to be a fight arranger for a number of episodes of The New Avengers). As for the rest of the choregraphy, it is very much of its time. Lots of POV and surpringly effectively karate chops that cause huge great men to literally somersault on to the floor. We also get the old kung-fu movie style sped-up film at some points too.

What always sold the whole thing though was, of course, Dame Diana herself. As goofy as some of the choreography could be, she always committed to it 100%, whilst bringing so much of her own style and class into the action. For example...

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