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Old 04-Sep-23, 23:07
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Article title: I regret doing OnlyFans when I turned 18. My subscribers pushed my boundaries, sent degrading messages, and treated me like an object.

she thought OF was supposed to be empowering (I'm sure she saw the gazillion IG posts where all her friends say "YASSSS QUEEN, get that bag"), didn't seem so bad because it wasn't far off from the bikini pics she was already posting for free on IG. she joins, sees guys slowly push her boundaries more and more, gets depressed, spends most of the money she makes masking her depression, pushes her friends/family away, her life begins to revolve around making content, she travels specifically to make content, eventually contemplates suicide and quits OF. Many such stories.
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Default Re: regrets doing OnlyFans from 18. subs pushed boundaries, sent degrading messages

As soon as I saw this title my first thought was "this person found Christ, didn't they?" Lol. Sure enough. I'm not sure how authentic this article even is. But taking it at face value, 18 is very young still and I think it takes a lot of maturity to advocate for one's self, so I can totally see how pressure and being objectified can mess up someone. I think there's a lot more to unpack there but I digress. Thanks for the share.
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Default Re: regrets doing OnlyFans from 18. subs pushed boundaries, sent degrading messages

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Didn't watch the reaction, just the actual tiktok video. Another girl regretting chasing money on OF, losing out on her relationships, having to do mental gymnastics to justify doing OF while being religious, etc. Took her 6 months after realizing she was hating her life before she actually quit. Seems like a deluge of people are coming out talking about regretting doing OF.
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Default Re: regrets doing OnlyFans from 18. subs pushed boundaries, sent degrading messages

18 is very young. I was confused as hell at 18, so I'm sure many 18 year olds do it and regret it. Some probably do it and appreciate the money.

As for guys pushing boundaries, I think that's true almost universally, not just OF. I went to the occasional foot party and a lot of guys, or so I heard from the girls, were aggressive and push boundaries. I didn't ask for specifics, but I heard from more than one girl about how some guys could be aggressive.

I remember Cheyenne Jewel complained about that one time, I think on twitter, when she did a strip show. She's a tough girl, but she found the screams from the crowd and what some people were saying a bit too much.

Should nobody do only fans at 18? . . . Age limit of 21? Maybe.

On the flip side, one lady who's worked in this business, as a dom/occasional wrestler and foot model/fetishist, she talked about how much she enjoyed getting into the business and how much better it was than working at Starbucks. I don't remember her name, but smaller girl, skinny, but able enough to do some mixed Fem-Fem and occasional wrestling videos, might have done a scissor-vixens. Ella something, I think, but I'm not sure I have the name right or if I'm mixing her up with someone else.

She had this funny story about how - in high-school, yes, high-school, she got talking to a guy on the internet and he asked her to mail him a bottle of her pee. He said he'd send her money if she did, so, she did it. She mailed him pee. I think she took out a PO box so as not to give her address.

A week later, that guy mailed her $280. And, she was kind of hooked after that. Easy way to make money. She was pretty though. Well above average.

People that young don't always have bad experiences. Still, 18 feels very young to me.

And this isn't just an only fans problem, though that might be the big thing right now.
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She had this funny story about how - in high-school, yes, high-school, she got talking to a guy on the internet and he asked her to mail him a bottle of her pee. He said he'd send her money if she did, so, she did it. She mailed him pee. I think she took out a PO box so as not to give her address.

A week later, that guy mailed her $280. And, she was kind of hooked after that. Easy way to make money. She was pretty though. Well above average.
Yeah, some people have the ability to compartmentalize and just treat the fetish industry purely as a job and not let it effect their actual lives. You need to have a maturity and mental stability that most people in their teens and early twenties just don't have though. It's a tough line I guess for me, because I'm absolutely in the "sex work is work" camp, but it's also an industry that preys on and destroys young people who have not fully developed their self identity. Maybe if it was truly treated more as a job instead of the worst kind of shameful freelance work, their could be more done to ready young people into what the industry is actually like and how to set boundaries and create a work life balance.
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Default Re: regrets doing OnlyFans from 18. subs pushed boundaries, sent degrading messages

To some extent, people are going to have similar opinions about people doing or paying for OF, sessions, mixed wrestling videos, on and on. Everyone can draw their own lines wherever they see fit of course.

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A week later, that guy mailed her $280. And, she was kind of hooked after that. Easy way to make money. She was pretty though. Well above average.
Many such stories. Especially if you don't come from money, it's life-changing, and it's easy to perform mental gymnastics to justify it (if you don't consider it immoral or wrong in any way, no need for the gymnastics).

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an industry that preys on and destroys young people who have not fully developed their self identity.
"It" preys on both women and men. Women as already discussed, and turning men into addicts. Quoting a review of one girl's page from another forum: "Asked her a couple of questions in her DMs, and she sent me a clip to buy, which I'm used to girls doing if they answer DMs. So I pay $20 for the clip. Literally 3 messages later she sends me another clip, this time for $45. I ask her another question and she's like, no, buy the $45 clip first. So I said, thanks but no thanks, thanked her for the conversation and said goodnight. She curses me out and calls me a bitch for not buying the clip." Tons of girls just treating guys like ATMs because they heard it was free money, not answering guys' questions, just trying to trick them into buying pictures or clips they don't even want (tbh, that interaction was probably with a manager, not even the girl herself). This guy was evidently already used to paying $20 for clips he probably didn't want just to get a question answered.

And nowadays you get a lot of that same "free money" attitude in sessions. Girls booking a session for city X, deciding at the last minute to stay in city Y 30-40 miles away, and expecting you to be ok with 2-3 hours of extra traffic if you're a local or to pick up her $200+ taxi expense if you're not local.
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"It" preys on both women and men. Women as already discussed, and turning men into addicts. Quoting a review of one girl's page from another forum: "Asked her a couple of questions in her DMs, and she sent me a clip to buy, which I'm used to girls doing if they answer DMs. So I pay $20 for the clip. Literally 3 messages later she sends me another clip, this time for $45. I ask her another question and she's like, no, buy the $45 clip first. So I said, thanks but no thanks, thanked her for the conversation and said goodnight. She curses me out and calls me a bitch for not buying the clip." Tons of girls just treating guys like ATMs because they heard it was free money, not answering guys' questions, just trying to trick them into buying pictures or clips they don't even want (tbh, that interaction was probably with a manager, not even the girl herself). This guy was evidently already used to paying $20 for clips he probably didn't want just to get a question answered.

And nowadays you get a lot of that same "free money" attitude in sessions. Girls booking a session for city X, deciding at the last minute to stay in city Y 30-40 miles away, and expecting you to be ok with 2-3 hours of extra traffic if you're a local or to pick up her $200+ taxi expense if you're not local.
Wow, that's a terrible review. Awful. The guy was right to say No Way.

I signed up for my first only fans page based on a very pretty lady on twitter. Doing a muscle pose and looking sexy as hell. I signed up for her only fans ($10 a month - no big) and it was all about "fill my holes" and "I'm horny" . . . which might be what sells, but it wasn't the muscle pose, sexy dom I was looking for, so I hit "don't renew" and that's that.

I haven't seen much only fans worth looking at and their search function is terrible. You can't search by category, for example. It's also set up to auto-renew. I had to google how to turn off auto-renew, because they don't make it obvious.

So, I don't think it's a great site, and women asking for too much just to exchange messages makes it worse. One feature, you can message anyone you're subscribed to. I think the site might have some purposes for any wrestler you might want to see, because one - if you sign up for their OF, the lady knows you're interested, and two, you can see the lady in videos and more photos, so you get a better sense of what they look like.

Another downside, you can't download any pictures or vids, you have to pay for that separately. The subscription is just viewing, at least, the site I saw, very different than ScissorVixens or MWZ where you subscribe and you can download. So - not ideal.

And subscribed fans can mail (I think) people they're subscribed too as many times as they want so mails might get lost, unless you mail with a tip - also not great, but those mails go to the top. I have no idea how many mails from subscribers the average lady on OF gets.

But not a lot of sessiongirls seem to have OF sites. Some do, many don't.

I don't hate it, I'm not a big fan of it either. I do think, if a sessiongirl has an OF site, it might help me make a decision on whether to spend the money to see them or not, and might even make the fantasy of seeing them, the pre-session excitement more interesting. I also enjoy playful banter before a session, which is nearly impossible with ladies wanting to reduce their e-mail time - also perfectly understandable. I'd send $5 tips to write a lady various thoughts, 2 or 3 times before a session. Not a big cost compared to a $350 or $400 session. Under the right circumstances, I think OF has things about it that could work.

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Getting back to the original article. I'm curious exactly how guys "pushed the 18 year olds boundaries" and if OF has a block user from mail option. Having given it some thought, I'm curious about a few more details. Maybe the 18 year old was too eager for money and she said yes too easily, but I'm just speculating. Curious about more details now.
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I have no sympathy for her at all.

20K a month simply for taking photos?!?!

You can objectify me all you want and I'll gladly take that money.

She'll look back on quiting OF as perhaps the biggest mistake of her life.
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I genuinely have no respect for any man who has an onlyfans account nor do I have any respect for a woman that does onlyfans.
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You can download pictures/videos. They're coming through the browser after all. You can open up your network tab and grab the jpgs/mp4s directly. They now have drm protection for videos, and you have to do a bit more work to get around that, but it can be done. That said, I haven't been on OF for quite some time and don't find it worth playing those games. If they want to spit in the honest customers' faces by making them play games and trying to force them to watch clips on the OF website just to try to stop the handful of thieves (who will get around those measures anyway), I'm not interested.

You're right that even the muscle people are pretty much just doing sex and pegging and similar things these days. The ones who stick to muscle content barely seem to get any engagement.

Pretty sure almost all the sessiongirls have an OF these days. It's one of the main links on their SG profiles.

OF girls can block guys, but it auto-refunds them I believe. So instead they'll "restrict" them, meaning the guys can view the feed, but can't like/comment/message.

Pushing boundaries means what you'd imagine I'd bet. Guys ask girl for a specific video, she says I'll think about it. He tones down request a bit. They start paying her more and more, engaging her in conversation, trying to push her limits just a little bit. Some guys give up, others continue, she does a little bit more (this dude is now a VIP after all), slowly starts doing a little bit more for everyone ("I can make a ton of money, it's no big deal, religious convictions be damned"), next thing you know she went from the girl doing bikini pics at most to making custom videos day in and day out doing the most revolting things she couldn't have previously imagined doing or even being asked for. Flying out to coastal cities to make OF content. Constantly going shopping for new outfits and toys to film herself in/with. Pushing family and friends away, especially anyone who asks too many questions. Addictions must escalate. The men become addicted to extreme porn, the women become addicted to money and attention. It's the sort of thing where the people doing this don't realize how far they've taken things until it's too late.
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