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Re: Do you think girls with high grappling experience could beat you in a death match
Being serious, it's not a male/female issue ... Go back and watch the early UFCs (number 1 especially) Royce Gracie weighed >200lbs less than some of his competitors, and had minimal striking, and won every fight
There was also a Japanese Judo fighter, Yuki Nakai, who got to the final of a Vale Tudo event, beating world-class fighters 100lbs heavier, a foot taller [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] In Jujitsu, every match is a simulated death match .. A choke in a real fight is game over; break a limb and it's not a fight anymore ... In the early days, very few strikers who weren't actually trained in grappling defense could compete against grapplers – world champion boxers used to get destroyed by amateur wrestlers in exhibition matches, because wrestlers train to shoot in fast enough not to get caught ... So taking gender out the equation, 100lb weight advantage hasn't been enough to bridge a grappling deficit in the past |
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Re: Do you think girls with high grappling experience could beat you in a death match
Hitting a highly skilled fighter isn't as easy as you seem to be suggesting.
I can tell you from personal experiences that a 100-lb weight advantage vs someone who knows what they are doing can actually be a *disadvantage*, as you'll find your bodyweight (and even sometimes your strength) being used against you. To me, it's pretty cool, because the physics of the martial arts are so fascinating to me. You should also consider the fact that someone highly skilled in jiu-jitsu knows how to quickly identify and exploit openings. While you may think that an average build, 120-lb woman fighter isn't necessarily that strong, when all her energy is focused on your elbow, you're going to become acutely aware of just how much damage she can do if she chooses not to stop. In a so-named "death match", I'm guessing you would not want her to stop, and with each broken bodypart, you'd have ever-decreasing chances to survive.
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Well y4syspok, I understand your reasons but the real point here is that your original "scenario" includes too many possibilities. I mean, depends on "who vs who" and there is a huge range of situations in a serious, real life's fight (even more than a competition). So man, all I can say is "yes, it may happen". Btw, some time ago I tried to "summarize" a similar topic (from post #84 on [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]).
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Dunno if you realize this but a significant part of any decent grappling training is learning how to control/deal with the limbs of someone a lot bigger than you…which are usually what people punch and kick with. When I wrestle VeVe, the fact that I'm uninterested in striking her as an option for freeing myself is irrelevant, I'm physically unable to do it. |
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Death match?
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Re: Do you think girls with high grappling experience could beat you in a death match
That is a tough question when you think about it. When these highly skilled girls fight in Jiu Jitsu, they don't have to worry about taking punches. If I could land a few punches, it would probably be enough to take advantage of a fight. However, if these girls can get a choke hold on you before you are able to land any good punches, they can put you out in a matter of seconds. And its all over.
So if it is a matter of a girl who is ONLY skilled in grappling, I would have a pretty good chance of winning the fight. But if the girl is trained in grappling AND some other form of fighting, I'm a dead man. |
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The original poster may have asked an interested question "in theory," but my guess is he's never grappled with any truly skilled ladies out there... |
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