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Old 06-Jan-21, 15:57
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That's a relief! I did send her a text about video chatting tomorrow already -- she said yes, but I'm just waiting to hear back when a good time for her is.

Thanks so much for the advice!

Is it safe to discuss payment in a video chat? I mean, I guess it's not any less safe than doing so in e-mail or texting, right?
How was the vid chat? I don't see an issue with discussing payment, just realize there is potential for vid chats to be recorded and then used against you in an extortion scheme. "Pay me $5,000 or I'll send this video to your wife/mom/boss etc."
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How was the vid chat? I don't see an issue with discussing payment, just realize there is potential for vid chats to be recorded and then used against you in an extortion scheme. "Pay me $5,000 or I'll send this video to your wife/mom/boss etc."
She bailed, initially said she had a flat tire, then later said she's not in a good head space to meet up and doesn't want to lead me on.

It's all good, though. I did two video chats with two others, met up with one yesterday (for free, by the way) and got lifted in every possible way you can think of. Reason it was free is because she wanted to test it out and didn't feel right charging for something she wasn't knowledgeable with.

The other wants to meet soon -- she's kink-minded, a lesbian, and likes the idea of feeling empowered over men. So she's doing it more because she finds it fun than anything else. Not free, but not very expensive, either.
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Old 29-Jan-21, 06:52
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Default Re: I managed to get $100 Sessions from Women on Craigslist. Here is my experience.

I paid for 1 month to be a premium member on Seeking Arrangements for the sole purpose of finding women who would engage in a few kinks of mine -- but platonic only -- no sex, no romance, no kissing, no nudity, no dating. I insisted on platonic because I'm happily married and my wife was fine with me being on there provided it was just for kinks and nothing sexual or romantic. Here's what my experience has been:

1) If you have a good profile picture (in my case, a turquoise martini in the foreground obscuring my face behind it) and you're very honest about what you're looking for in your ABOUT ME section, you are sought after constantly. It didn't matter that I was married -- in fact, saying I was seeking something platonic probably helped considerably. Every time I logged in, I had new profile views, new women who had favorited my profile, and new messages about how they like my kink(s) and are interested in indulging them with me. Compare this to the lack of messages and interest you get from standard dating sites, and it's clear just how immensely flattering and exhilarating this is. And it makes you EXTREMELY horny. All day.

2) It very quickly becomes an utter addiction because unless you're a celebrity, you will never get this kind of constant attention from literally hundreds of women (I talked with 317 women in 30 days), many of whom were very good looking (and many of whom are scammers who want to talk without even reading your profile or seeing your picture). From the moment I woke up to the moment I fell asleep, I would be thinking about checking messages on the website. I would check the site on my phone while driving. I would check when I was hanging with family and friends. I would be on it ALL THE TIME because I was getting a constant dopamine rush from the realization that my kinks were going to be fulfilled by a wide variety of women. Here's the thing, though -- regardless of whether or not you've already met up with a few women who can accommodate your desires, you will still keep checking the site for more messages and more profile views, because, well, they never stop -- and what if the next girl is better in some way? What if she also genuinely has the same kink as you and isn't just dabbling in it? This is obviously extremely unhealthy because it means you can never be satisfied enough. The only thing that ends up satisfying you is constant attention from multiple hot women. My membership ended a little over 24 hours ago and I am absolutely in withdrawal that this attention has abruptly stopped. Seriously. I have a STRONG desire to pay for another month just so I'll feel like I did two days ago instead of how I feel right now -- which is very on edge, antsy... you know, like I badly need a fix. My mind is going nuts with boredom and anticipation waiting to see if the girls I met from there who I'm talking to on google voice are going to write me today. I assume the pandemic and lack of social interaction for the last year exacerbates this a bit more than it would normally, but still -- very unhealthy! That being said...

3) Something you have to remember is that (to put it bluntly) -- the majority of women on there are basically prostitutes who are faking their personality by pretending they're not prostitutes. No, they're not all willing to sleep with you, but make no mistake -- the ONLY reason 99% of them are giving you attention is because they think you have money and want you to give it to and/or spend it on them. While you're on there to get an emotional experience of some sort, they're on there to fake an emotional connection so that you'll pay them. It's a little sick, to be honest, albeit it does bypass a lot of the social awkwardness of bad dates since it gets to the point very quickly. Still, it's a bit of a mind fuck keeping that clearly in mind and still being able to enjoy yourself -- at least it is for me, since a big part of my kink is that she's genuinely enjoying having her way with me. And there is something very sad about the fact that so many women are totally fine with becoming what is essentially socially acceptable new-age hookers who have given up on the potential for genuine intimacy and love for quick cash and a gucci bag. They're not hookers because they have to be or are forced to be -- they are actually choosing to be because they think they'll live the high life and because they don't see any point in dating regular guys who can't afford to buy them expensive shit. So make no mistake -- the vast majority of women on there are extremely vapid millennials either with Daddy issues (shocker!) and/or raised on Disney films that made them want to be princesses who only interact with rich, powerful men. And as for the guys on there? I dunno... I get the feeling most are desperate and lonely. So much so they'd actually pay a woman to talk to them. You're essentially talking to escorts who pretend they're not escorts, but hard working students who need help with their bills. A lot also claim they want mentorship. Which often translates to: "I'll fuck you if you give me some good stock tips and introduce me to powerful people so I can bypass all the working stiffs who believe in morals and dignity." It is, well, the American way, isn't it? And I say that as an American.

4) But a HUGE upside to all this is that you can be completely honest about your desires and you will (almost) never be judged on there. If you were meeting a normal woman in real life and told her your kinks, there's a fair chance she'd be turned off and think you're a freak or a pervert. But on there? Either they immediately ask "how much?" or they talk to you for awhile about how that sounds like a lot of fun and want to learn more. It's IMMENSELY cool to have a frank, honest conversation about your biggest turn-ons with attractive, open-minded women who are down to try it with you (and may even be somewhat into it, although don't expect that to often be the case). I can't think of anywhere else you can regularly talk about this without making people uncomfortable. The conversations can be very rewarding. Especially given COVID.

5) But most of these women will inexplicably flake and/or ghost on you. And knowing this will make you keep looking for more women so you have options in case the ones you were going to meet with don't show or are never available or never can make time to do a video chat with you to verify that they actually are who they are.

6) I've met up with two women so far, although I had the opportunity to meet up with at least five. Sessions lasted about 90-120 minutes or so and predominantly consisted of me teaching them how to accommodate my kink in various ways (which is lift/carry). The first was a dominatrix who didn't charge me because she was interested in adding my kinks to her repertoire (I paid for the hotel room). If I meet her again, it will cost me $150-200 not including a hotel room (so $250-300 total). The second girl I met with was on there specifically to meet submissive men for platonic kink play (since she's a lesbian). She was very cool, charged me $120, and hosted at her place. I'm supposed to be going back there tomorrow to do another session, and this time with her AND her girlfriend who's also into it ;-) ... I say supposedly because she was supposed to get back to me tonight about it and hasn't, so... we'll see.

7) The main method of communication off site is through google voice as well as Snapchat. I would advise making a separate account for both of those (they're free). Most of the time, meet-ups will be in hotels you're paying for unless you're comfortable hosting at your place or she's comfortable hosting at hers (which is very atypical).

8) To make things clearer, I put together several detailed video clips showcasing what I was into in a google drive folder along with a text file outlining the dynamics I was looking for. Whenever I got someone on the site interested in my profile, I would send them the link to the google drive folder and see if they were still interested and if there was anything in there they were uncomfortable with. If they were still cool with it, we'd exchange numbers and eventually set up a time to do a video chat. A video chat was usually enough to assure everyone's fears that both parties were cool and not creepy. I never needed to meet in public first before setting up a private meet-up but absolutely would if I felt something was off -- or if she did.

...

So was it worth it? Yes. I spent $90 for a 1-month membership, $83 on a hotel for the first session, and $120 on the second session. In addition to being able to meet the two I have already met with, I'm currently talking to three others who want to meet up. And there are actually even three more I have in my contacts list who are also down to meet up whenever I want (but they're a little pricier and didn't seem as into it as the ones I'm currently talking with). So... 8 viable prospects, most at around $100/session.

Just be aware... the site is extremely addicting, and 99% of the attention you get is fake. You're essentially engaging with women who see you not as a human being but as an ATM, and most will do pretty much anything for money which is a little... unsettling. It's very easy to find yourself on there all the time, so... my advice is to spend a week finding women who will accommodate you, plan meet-ups quickly (hopefully one after another in the same hotel to save on hotel costs), and if they go well, delete your account and see them on the regular. And if you're gonna stay on there, uh... best way not to waste too much time is to masturbate early in the day to get rid of your horniness for awhile so your whole day isn't shot being on that stupid place ;-)

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Old 02-Feb-21, 13:59
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Default Re: I managed to get $100 Sessions from Women on Craigslist. Here is my experience.

Thank you Mark for the experience.

I asked about this in the other thread. In the meantime actually bit the bullet decided to join. I am currently trying it for a month. Maybe cause I'm just bored with covid. I agree with you completely.

There's loads of automated "hello" from people who haven't read what you're looking for, which you have to sieve out.

You do get loads of messages from women who seem to be willing to do LC or (playful) wrestling as I put it.

In my profile I just said I am a short skinny man looking for a taller and/or heavier woman for piggybacks and playful wrestling. This seem to get their interest. I'm sure they welcome guys who aren't just trying to get a cheap shag.

3) it can be exhilarating and indeed it's great to talk to them openly but at the same time it is an infinite time sink. You login, reply to some messages, then have to log in later to view responses. Repeat forever.

I haven't met anyone yet, and not even sure I will. For the moment it's about collecting potential contacts. One of the issues I see is they're all far away.

I'll update later in the month. I also tried secr benefits but the volume of messages and interest is much lower.

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Hmmm, it would be interesting to explore if couple of these, from what I hear, helpful ladies would be a beautiful karate/taekwondo masters interested in complete destruction of a paying customer?!
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Totally agree it's an infinite time sink. But if it keeps your mind in a state of horny anticipation... it doesn't feel particularly bad. I think the biggest problem is that the messages and views never stop so you never take a break from it.

I still have only met up with the two girls mentioned above, and only 1x each. The second one who I was supposed to meet up with again this past weekend cancelled due to a severe gluten allergy. Maybe it's true, who knows. We're still in contact, anyway.

I am supposed to meet another this Saturday, and another next Wednesday. These two don't 'seem' to be flaky, but... we'll see.

Regarding finding women for karate/taekwando... I just did a search for both of those words within a 50 mile radius around the city I'm in and no profiles came up. I think the more specific you get for a given specialty, the harder it is to find. Now if you instead wrote something like: "Looking to practice karate moves on a test subject..." now you might get some responses. But keep in mind, most women on there don't want to physically hurt you. Just financially ;-)
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But keep in mind, most women on there don't want to physically hurt you. Just financially ;-)
Darn, it almost sounded like a dream come true.
But I guess most of the women everywhere are against hurting, even if the customers gives full consent and is ready to pay extra for the effort.

But I guess that makes those who are willing to do it all the more valuable.
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Totally agree it's an infinite time sink. But if it keeps your mind in a state of horny anticipation... it doesn't feel particularly bad. I think the biggest problem is that the messages and views never stop so you never take a break from it.

I still have only met up with the two girls mentioned above, and only 1x each. The second one who I was supposed to meet up with again this past weekend cancelled due to a severe gluten allergy. Maybe it's true, who knows. We're still in contact, anyway.

I am supposed to meet another this Saturday, and another next Wednesday. These two don't 'seem' to be flaky, but... we'll see.

Regarding finding women for karate/taekwando... I just did a search for both of those words within a 50 mile radius around the city I'm in and no profiles came up. I think the more specific you get for a given specialty, the harder it is to find. Now if you instead wrote something like: "Looking to practice karate moves on a test subject..." now you might get some responses. But keep in mind, most women on there don't want to physically hurt you. Just financially ;-)
Couldn’t you just type in dominatrix ? I’m sure profiles would come up and your pretty much half way there just needing to teach them some holds like you are already doing. I suppose tho there’s no nice discount with a dom like there is with some of these green girls just looking to make a few bucks !
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You could do a search for words like "dom" "sub" "femdom" etc... Definitely. And I did that for what I was looking for.

Best word to use for a search is "kink."
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Default Re: I managed to get $100 Sessions from Women on Craigslist. Here is my experience.

Little bit of an update -- I know I said before that Seeking Arrangements was worth it, but... actually I'm not so sure it is. Here's how all my meet-ups have gone so far:

Meet Up 1 -- Went well.

Meet Up 2 -- Went well.

Meet Up 3 -- Same girl as meet-up 2. She got food poisoning the night before and didn't actually tell me until about 2 hours before we were supposed to meet. So we didn't meet. She apologized, but now she's busy with no idea of when she won't be.

Meet Up 4 -- New girl. Had a good video chat. But she works in healthcare. Her hospital had a COVID outbreak the day we were supposed to meet. So even though I booked a hotel, we didn't meet. Supposedly she's getting vaccinated... eventually.

Meet Up 5 -- Since meet-up 4 was now a bust, I contacted the girl from Meet-Up 1 and asked if she could meet in the early evening (and thereby use the hotel room I booked). She said yes. An hour later she tells me she's meeting someone else first and will be free a little later. I never hear from her. So we didn't meet. And I was out the $125 cost of a hotel room. She apologized a few days later and said she had her phone off. Yeah.

Meet Up 6 -- New girl, had been talking to for about two weeks, had a video chat a week ago. Planned to meet up yesterday. Touched base the day before but heard nothing. Touched base the day of but heard nothing. So we didn't meet. Still haven't heard anything from her. Not an apology, not an excuse... nada.

Meet Up 7 -- New girl, supposedly meeting for coffee on Friday. She was super interested, but then ghosted on me for two weeks without a word, and then wrote me again out of the blue.

....

These are not good statistics. Sure, it's possible Meetups 3 and 4 were legit excuses, but... I dunno. This doesn't even go into the dozens of girls I've texted with who just suddenly stop texting for no reason, or demanded outrageous amounts of money to engage in a kink they have no experience with whatsoever. Then there are those who flake on you, and then write you again 2 weeks later with a "sorry, work got busy, how are you?" and then no response when you write back.

I said it was exciting being on there because it fills you with hope that you'll get your kinks realized. Well, in the beginning, you're full of hope, certainly. But now? Not so much. I see it a bit more realistically. It's like any dating site -- the odds are against you.

So if you do decide to join, just be aware that the majority of women who text you, flirt with you, and claim they want to meet-up will flake on you. Maybe they get cold feet and are too embarrassed to say it, but you will be left wondering why they're even on the site if they're too afraid to meet up in person.

So is it worth it? You tell me.
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