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Old 02-Aug-21, 14:06
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We COULD try getting vaccinated and eliminating the virus. I DO NOT accept a defeatist outlook.
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Old 02-Aug-21, 17:17
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Getting the vaccine doesn't keep you from getting it, nor does it keep you from spreading it. And many of those dying are vaccinated. So it simply isn't down to people not getting vaccinated, because the vaccine clearly isn't that effective.
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Old 02-Aug-21, 17:59
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Could we maybe avoid another round of disinformation, please? Just lock this thread already.
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Old 02-Aug-21, 19:32
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Almost all the people dying are unvaccinated.
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Old 02-Aug-21, 23:57
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Getting the vaccine doesn't keep you from getting it, nor does it keep you from spreading it. And many of those dying are vaccinated. So it simply isn't down to people not getting vaccinated, because the vaccine clearly isn't that effective.
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Your analysis would seem to be in direct conflict with the article you attached, which had you taken the time to read it states that 97% of hospitalizations and 99.5% of deaths occur in the unvaccinated, and that the 'outbreak' resulted in a total of 4 vaccinated hospitalizations. The vaccines aren't perfect but it's evident that they are working.

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Yes but that is the point. Most people assume if they're vaccinated they can't get it or spread it so they'll behave accordingly. But reality is these vaccines, you'll still get it, you'll still spread it but you have a much less chance of getting seriously ill or dying.

They're still worth it for sure but far from the magic covid fix everyone hoped.

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The vaccine actually did an incredible job preventing you from getting the previous strains of the virus and spreading them. It still does a far better job of preventing the delta strain than not being vaccinated does, but vaccinated people are carrying and spreading higher viral loads of this strain than the previous ones. Vaccination still does a great job of greatly reducing your chance of hospitalization or death from the Delta variant. The issue is because we've done such a piss poor job as a country and globally overall with this pandemic, the virus has been able to mutate and continues to do so. We had a small time frame to get the US vaccinated and unfortunately, a substantial portion of the country refuses to do so. Instead we're just normalizing getting sick and dying from something that was preventable.
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Viruses are constantly mutating and this one is no different. If it was just a question of following the right procedure, why is AIDS still around? For that matter why is the common cold still around? What will eventually knock Covid out is not a vaccine, but a more adaptable virus. Meantime, you can become a house hermit until you die of starvation or you can continue to enjoy life (including wrestling) until you die of Covid - or a heart attack, or cancer, or diabetes, etc. etc. Most likely something other than Covid.
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Viruses are constantly mutating and this one is no different. If it was just a question of following the right procedure, why is AIDS still around? For that matter why is the common cold still around? What will eventually knock Covid out is not a vaccine, but a more adaptable virus. Meantime, you can become a house hermit until you die of starvation or you can continue to enjoy life (including wrestling) until you die of Covid - or a heart attack, or cancer, or diabetes, etc. etc. Most likely something other than Covid.

Viruses very much concerning their mutations rates as their replication mechanism a very different (single/double rna /single/double dna). HIV part of a group which mutate extremely fast, so it's nearly impossible/very hard to find a functioning vaccine. Other virus types are much slower, single vaccine shots are enough. While others like flue or most corona need repeated shots.
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Almost no procedure has been followed correctly. We have been fed a constant stream of disinformation (including some in this thread), usually by newscasters, politicians, and megachurch leaders who have all been vaccinated themselves. The fact that things mutate doesn't mean we should do nothing and encourage it to mutate with that much more ease. Mis/disinformation travels fast. Even in this thread, the post with the lie about vaccines has one of the most "thanks."

Just FYI, last year nurses were working hard, motivated to help people get through this (the ones who are still working are still working hard, but probably not taking OT shifts anymore). Now they're at the end of their rope and exhausted. They're tired of dealing with patients who are still calling the whole thing a hoax and who refuse to do anything to help the situation, and they are quitting in droves. This is going to get a lot worse the next 6 months.

I'm not telling you not to session, but at least don't spread lies about the vaccines.
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