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Re: How many extra pounds does a women need to be as strong as a man?
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You take the discussion into so many directions which makes it difficult to keep it going. What percentage would you say elite women represents? Like 1% of women? Ok. If you said there are a few women who are stronger than most men, that would be accurate. Lastly, why don't female weightlifters and crossfitters compete against men? Same goes for soprts and martial arts. They can add as much weight as they want if that's the only reason they aren't as strong. |
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You were the one who said it was impossible. Quote:
I summarize it from the beginning: -I started by saying that the "how much does a women need to weight to be as strong as a man?" question of the OP is pointless, because there a lot of other factors that determine how strong someone is other than weight, such as what this weight is made of (in what percentage this weight is muscles, bodyfat, skeleton size ecc...) and neuromuscular efficiency, which varies greatly even between peopele of the same weight and build. To reinforce this point I stated that some women are stronger than some men despite weighing less than them, to show that's strenght it's not just a matter of how much someone weight. To further reinforce the point that "weight alone doesn't mean much", I made the example of extremely rare elite women (such as Stefi Cohen) who are stronger than most men, including heavier men. That's all, I hope it's more clear now. Quote:
The average men is stronger than the average woman, and the strongest man is stronger than the strongest woman, however when talking about specific individuals there are some women stronger than some men, and there are even a few women stronger than the vast majority men. A good comparison is with height, men are usually taller but there are some women taller than the average man, and there are also very rare cases of 6'7 women who are taller than almost every man. Now it's more rare to find a women stronger than a man than to find a women taller than a man, yes, but the general concept still stand. Quote:
My whole point revolved around how weight alone doesn't tell much regarding strenght. Also I really don't get what you mean with the "if that's the only reason they are not as strong they can add as much weight as they want", what is that supposed to mean? People can't gain infinite weight, unless you mean becoming obese by eating junk food al day which is obviously not going to help with your strenght or with your athletic performance. How much weight of lean and fuctional muscle mass you can add is limited by your genetic. |
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On top of that, strength of itself is not the only deciding factor. If it was, then every fight can just be settled with a bench press and we don't have to deal with all the discomfort of getting punched in the face. |
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Re: How many extra pounds does a women need to be as strong as a man?
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This feels like a good benchmark. very well trained 55 kg men apparently can lift more than very well trained women who are 20 kg heavier than them. |
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Re: How many extra pounds does a women need to be as strong as a man?
Obviously alot of deluded wierdos ITT, me included. But on average Woman are about 40% weaker than men while being 15% lighter on average, meaning they would have to be 25% heavier to match strength in most cases.
That said, high level female athletes can be as strong or stronger than an average man at lighter weights such as weight lifters or fitness models. If the female and male are both equivalent power athletes however, you would need a very significant weight difference on the part of the female as male powerlifters in the 125 weight class often will lift as much or more than 250 pound females. |
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To me it seems that people who are skeptical because I stated that Stefi Cohen and other world class level female weightlifter of average weight are stronger than 99% of men forget how many men exist on this planet, and how few of them are dedicated weighlifters than can bench press more than 100 kg, squat more than 230 kg and deadlift more than 250 kg (likely less than 1 out of 100). Being stronger than 99% of men still mean that there are millions of men stronger than her in the world. |
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For that reason, a woman would be best off using her lower body when wrestling a man. This applies for offense, in which she uses her legs to trap him in holds......and for defense, where she uses her legs to push him off of her. Many women have the edge in leg strength, flexibility & agility over men, but don't make use of it. In woman vs. man wrestling, you invariably see the gal trying to match arm strength with the guy, which is the worst thing she can do. Sure, weight makes a difference in a fight but a much larger woman can still be defeated by a man if she doesn't use the advantages that nature gave her. |
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I don’t think there is any kind of reliable formula for weight vs strength. It’s a lot more about the physical makeup of both people. Some people aren’t very well put together and their extra weight doesn’t add strength.
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