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Old 01-Sep-20, 15:37
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Thanks for the responses guys. There is no single Answer for this issue but it's interesting to see how everyone manages it (or doesn't, as the case may be).



I think too much porn definitely makes it harder to manage but I don't think it totally explains it because I felt the desire to be dominated even as a child before I knew anything about sexuality or had exposure to porn.

However, I have noticed a connection with depression though. When I feel depressed, my desire to be dominated shoots through the roof.

The issue of whether it's healthy or unhealthy though is a seriously gray area, esp. financially.

First, nothing gives me more pleasure in life than being dominated by a woman. So I know I will never quit doing sessions.

For a variety of reasons I won't go into here, I also live a fairly lonely life. A session is not just a fetish indulgence. It gives me physical touch, as well as an opportunity to socialize with someone I otherwise would never have the opportunity to talk to without the legal hassles of hiring an escort. Not to mention they're fun and you get a good workout too!



Lol this is so true! I've been married before and kept my fetish a secret, for most of the marriage. Never again! And as most of us have experienced, girlfriends and wives cannot satisfy our fetish anywhere near as good as dedicated dommes for pay (as I found out).



Yes and no.

The going rate for a session is now $400 an hour. Cutting back on monthly expenses like lattes or the cell phone plan ain't gonna cut it. I get what you're saying though, and I do live a very minimalist life partly to make it easier to fund this hobby.

My goal is to eventually session every week for 2 hours. To do that - while still contributing a good amount to a retirement fund - I only need to make about 120k gross in a tax-free state like Florida or Nevada. 120k USD is not easy but certainly achievable, esp. in IT.

My savings should definitely be higher than they are now, and a part of that is because of how much I've blown on sessions. I don't regret it though.

In fact, I feel pretty strong regret at not having sessioned with a number of women who were once available (some even actively reached out to me when they were in town!) but now are no longer sessioning. I didn't session simply because I wanted to save my money instead. If I could do it over, I'd session with them even if it meant having a lower networth today.
If your having to revolve your financial life around sessioning, u may have a problem.

Reminds me of when I'd count the money in my wallet and see how much I had for alcohol.
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Old 01-Sep-20, 15:50
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Unless there's someone local, that weekly session is likely going to involve travel. This will add to the expense. If it is someone local, they may think you're richer than you are, and expect more and more. Eventually that $400 turns into $500.

Sessioning that much is a sign of addiction. I'd just plan for once a month. Sometimes things will line up with girls traveling (or you traveling) that you end up doing a session every week for 2-4 weeks, and sometimes no sessions at all for a few months. But if you're spending half of your income on sessions, that is a lot of risk to be taking. Limited retirement, down payment if you don't own already, money for medical problems in a country where we're expected to basically handle the bill, money for a new(er) car. You may want to take an actual vacation one day. E.g., fly to Europe or Japan or Australia. That also won't be cheap.

FL and NV don't have strong tech scenes. Texas is a better bet, but property taxes are high there. Washington is even better, it's expensive to live there though. In addition, once a democrat is president, either next year, or 4.5+ years from now, you can expect federal taxes to go up. Actually you can expect them to go up regardless. Someone is going to be footing the bill for all these trillions of dollars. It's going to take a long time.

There is also a lot of speculation about whether tech salaries will go down in a year or two when more companies are offering remote and people are moving to the middle of nowhere. I won't take a side in that debate, but it is possible.

Bottom line, in my opinion, $120k is way too low to be doing multi-hour sessions, possibly with travel, every week. Even with an otherwise frugal lifestyle. The fact that you're talking about living in a state with no income tax in order to afford more sessions is evidence enough that you're letting your addiction micromanage your life.
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Old 01-Sep-20, 17:19
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@[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] and @[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register] - how is this different than any other hobby though?

If you wanted to train in the gym all day, every day, to be an MMA fighter, you might move to Vegas since it is the fight capital of the world. Nobody would say you have a "problem" even though you'd be sacrificing earning potential by living there instead of other cities to build a more traditional career.

If you wanted to take your boat out fishing every weekend, you'd probably want to live in Florida. Same thing.

Unlike alcoholism which has a real health cost, isn't sessioning just a relatively expensive (for most people) way to get intimacy needs met? There is no health cost to sessioning. If anything, it increases health because you're connecting with someone in an intimate way and you're getting some exercise. How is this a problem, assuming you have the money for it?

Most of my favorite providers are in Nevada or Florida so either of those two states would work. And LA is within driving distance of Vegas.

About the 120k figure, I know that is not likely to happen with any IT job in Nevada (or Florida). It could only be done with a remote IT job/contracting/freelancing which are not easy to get. But it is doable, and esp. with this covid thing, more and more IT staff will work remotely permanently. You raise a great point about salaries though. If this becomes a permanent trend, it will be "interesting" to see if the average 100k IT salary goes down to below 100k.
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Old 01-Sep-20, 17:51
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@[Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register],

Training to be an athlete involves pushing your body and mind to new limits. it's a path with many health benefits.

Sessioning isn't the same. You say yourself it's for "intimacy" needs, except it isn't, because its transactional. youre paying for it, so it's not real intimacy. Same with hiring prostitutes. they may care for you, but not in the way you think. real intimacy is something you don't pay for, it comes from an emotional connection. Take it from someone (me) who went thru a period of hiring prostitutes (6 in one month once).

the desire to be dominated is a kink, and you paying women money to fulfil that is fulfilling sexual urges. Sure your not jerking it while you're there, but i bet you are doing it after or when remembering the sessions.

99.9% of the time, these session women aren't getting off on this stuff. Real intimacy would be a balanced relationship with a woman where you please each other and both needs are met, real connection is there. theres no need to pay for it.

when you start forking out money to fulfil a sexual interest, i think it is no longer a "hobby". And even sexual acts aren't occurring, they're sexual for you and the session wrestler is acutely aware of that. So whether its hiring prostitutes, webcam models or watching porn, it's no longer a hobby, it's an addiction.

I just think it sounds unhealthy to losing so much money and structuring your entire life around it.
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Old 01-Sep-20, 20:06
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It's not training. If you're doing it this much, you're addressing a problem of loneliness, except it's a band-aid solution.

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Some addictions don't have as obvious of a health cost as alcoholism, but what you're describing has a very real health cost. Honestly, if you're a web dev, and you're referring to yourself as "IT," sounds like you're working somewhere where tech workers are considered a cost, not an investment. Working somewhere else (though harder to get a job there) is the best way to more income.

But regardless, if you make $120k in NV and max out retirement, you're left with about $70k after taxes. And you're talking about spending $42k of that on sessions. 60%. That percentage goes up when taxes go up in a few years. And you're not developing any healthy adult relationships either. You can argue about it, but I would say that is very unhealthy. And when you retire, will you have enough to afford them so often? (Maybe.)

There is nothing wrong with sessions. I am a fan of them. But doing one every week at any income level doesn't sound healthy, and is doubly unhealthy without a high income.

Addicts will justify their addictions, saying it's normal, a hobby, whatever. Maybe we can't sway you. But sessioning that much in your situation is a bad decision.
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Default Re: Managing the Session Habit - or Not

I’ll admit that using the word “hobby” was a bit tongue-in-cheek. However, the definition of a hobby is, “an activity done in one’s leisure time for pleasure.” So, sessioning qualifies for me.
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It's reasonable to call it a hobby, just not when every moment of your life and every dollar that you earn revolves around it.
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Alright. Nobody has said it, so I will say it. If you really want to stop blowing your money on sessions, there is a simple solution....Get married!
Of course you will spend a lot more money in the long run!
Haha yes if you're lucky, though it seems like many married guys on here don't necessarily seem to have very open communication with their wives about this stuff.

My wife was not very keen at it at first either, but eventually I was able to explain it in a way that made sense to her. Now I get to be in a headscissor 1-2 hours a day whenever we watch a show or a movie
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Alright. Nobody has said it, so I will say it. If you really want to stop blowing your money on sessions, there is a simple solution....Get married!

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Haha yes if you're lucky, though it seems like many married guys on here don't necessarily seem to have very open communication with their wives about this stuff.

My wife was not very keen at it at first either, but eventually I was able to explain it in a way that made sense to her. Now I get to be in a headscissor 1-2 hours a day whenever we watch a show or a movie
Lol I read what he wrote completely differently. As in, being married will make it impossible to session.


I've been married. It's a horrible thing for most guys that want any real sexual freedom as most women won't be into fetishes.


And we all know that even if they try and play along, they can never compete with a professional. I'm glad you've managed to work something out though.

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Lol I read what he wrote completely differently. As in, being married will make it impossible to session.


I've been married. It's a horrible thing for most guys that want any real sexual freedom as most women won't be into fetishes.


And we all know that even if they try and play along, they can never compete with a professional. I'm glad you've managed to work something out though.
My statement about being married had many different meanings
But in my case, it means no time for sessions. Between the wife and kids, I have very, very few opportunities where I would be able to session.

Basically all the stars would have to align. My wife would need to be out of town with the kids for multiple days, I would need to have enough money stashed away at the time (I can't use the joint bank account because the wife would notice $400 missing), and there would need to be a girl I am interested in sessioning with traveling to my city at the time. In the 12 years I've been married, I can count on 1 hand how many sessions I have done.

I am actually very fortunate because my wife knows about my fetish, and she supports it...to an extent. She doesn't really like doing it, but she will wrestle and scissor me on occasion. I even convinced her to go with me for a couples session with Sarah Brooke!

Reading posts from others on this forum, I know that I am very lucky with my wife. However, if I weren't married, I would probably be sessioning a lot more than I do now.

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Now I get to be in a headscissor 1-2 hours a day whenever we watch a show or a movie
You must be a real movie buff!
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