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Old 15-Nov-16, 15:10
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Not weird at all. As someone that experienced getting out wrestled by my younger sister, I can say it is much more humiliating than losing to a random girl. The bragging right are much greater and a sister can really know how to push a brother's buttons to rub it in. It can me more than just competition but a struggle for the balance of power in the relationship. Those times she beat me for real really resonate. Losing for real was not something I would call enjoyable but the competition and wrestling itself was fun for both of us as we did it competitively not just as roughhousing. But I could appreciate her accomplishment as the emotions on her end were obivous.

I am older now and my sister is an adult. My sister's abilities far exceed mine and I’m very proud of her but it was a process accepting it. It was more difficult losing to her because she is a constant reminder by the very nature of being family and the enjoyment she continues to derive from it.

For me I relate to similar circumstances which recall for me many of those emotions. In my mind I should have expected to beat her easily but in actuality I was anxious. Being my sister, the challenge was constant and any attempt to avoid her could only mean admitting fear. Forfeiting was not an option instead the very self-doubt she caused along with all her trash talk compelled me to compete. It wasn't that it was a turn-on but a higher level of emotion hightening the entire experience where the stakes seemed so much higher. Then a certain drive if I lost to prove to myself that she got lucky, or I made a misake because admitting defeat was too much to accept. The gap between the ecstasy of victory and despair of defeat then was at its greatest I've experienced when she won when I gave full effort.

Funny because in the scheme of things its not that big a deal but at the time it was the only thing that seemed to matter. I don't fascinate about family match ups specifically but enjoy a perceived mismatch in front of an audience where the male is overconfident. Even if the male wins it can be exciting to see the change in attitude if the female surprised him with her ability. For me my sister was the second but by far the most memorable opponent of that type as we wrestled on and off for 5 years before she overtook me in ability. I think its hard to reproduce those emotions so enjoy believing they really exist which require participates to care as deeply as possible about the final outcome. Sibling rivalries seem to be one of the best examples of that situation.

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Old 17-Nov-16, 20:17
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Geez, where is this mma club so I can join ?
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Old 17-Nov-16, 22:49
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I like the dimmer metaphore. Control but limited control, able to suppress but perhaps not able to fully switch off.
This resonates with me as well. With a very attractive woman, it's very hard to switch off. With a less attractive woman, easier to switch off, but it all depends what kind of pin I'm in or pin I have her in.
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Old 17-Nov-16, 23:52
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I agree. I belong to a bjj club and if I roll with any females, there is no sexual side to it. It is just training. As I am a member on this forum, I obviously do find the idea of wrestling with women very very sexy, but it's all about context. Wrestling with family members for me is good clean fun. Wrestling with training partners is for exercise and purely for sport. Wrestling my wife is very very sexual.
I also do BJJ classes and agree entirely. I have some difficulty going full out with a female competitor, and usually try to play a defensive game simply trying to avoid being submitted or choked out. Nothing sexual whatsoever. A roll with a session wrestler however is a completely different game and I find it very provocative sexually. Guess it's just a different mindset.
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Yeah, that makes sense. If you can't control the switch you control the circumstances.
This sounds about right for me.
I have some problems controlling the switch. i manage to control it if i wrestle my family members. but if i wrestle everyone else i can't. that includes my GF family.

i many people see facesitting as a really sexual move. i also do that. but i have seen a lot of submission wrestling and there is many times they sit on each others faces or the head.

my GF has used a reverse triangle several times in submission wrestling matches.
and i have seen that many times it starts with her sitting on the head/face of her opponent. tiring him/her out before she stretches out and chokes. and i know she loves pacesetting. but in those moment it looks like its more about controlling the opponent and winning the match.
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Not weird at all. As someone that experienced getting out wrestled by my younger sister, I can say it is much more humiliating than losing to a random girl. The bragging right are much greater and a sister can really know how to push a brother's buttons to rub it in. It can me more than just competition but a struggle for the balance of power in the relationship....

...Being my sister, the challenge was constant and any attempt to avoid her could only mean admitting fear. Forfeiting was not an option instead the very self-doubt she caused along with all her trash talk compelled me to compete. It wasn't that it was a turn-on but a higher level of emotion hightening the entire experience where the stakes seemed so much higher....

...my sister was the second but by far the most memorable opponent of that type as we wrestled on and off for 5 years before she overtook me in ability. I think its hard to reproduce those emotions so enjoy believing they really exist which require participates to care as deeply as possible about the final outcome. Sibling rivalries seem to be one of the best examples of that situation.
Very well put. Always hard to explain the feelings and emotions of wrestling with and getting beaten up by a female family member, especially a sister.
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My feelings to my younger sister (I was 14 and she 12) were total helplessy and embarrasement.
We didn`d wrestle but we tried out a hold she locked me in and didn`t let me go anymore for more than 2 hours. Helplessy when I realized that I cant get out after a while, total embarrasement when I finally begged her to release me, helplessy when she just laughed on my keeping me locked and finally embarrasement when it turned me more and more after 1 hour.
I was glad when she finally let me out.
This could have been the best start to go on wrestling from time to time but as a teenage boy I was literally too afraid to get locked by her again (even it might not have been happening so fast in an open wrestling).
And it didn`t help help that she said that she will lock me even tighter and longer when I provoce her.
So I kept certain distance to her which resulted that we never wrestle again. Its possible to call that pity but maybe it was also the best for all....
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I would never pay or get involved with wrestling women. I also have nothing against others that do pay and wrestle women. I had been sat on and energetically smothered by 2 sisters when young. They were quit a bit older than myself and of Finnish descent. I was under them for many long hours (and they used the natural method). It was no big thing to them as in there native Finland (and Europe for that matter) this was quit common.
I have those delicious memories and wouldn't want reality to intrude upon them.
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My feelings to my younger sister (I was 14 and she 12) were total helplessy and embarrasement.
We didn`d wrestle but we tried out a hold she locked me in and didn`t let me go anymore for more than 2 hours. Helplessy when I realized that I cant get out after a while, total embarrasement when I finally begged her to release me, helplessy when she just laughed on my keeping me locked and finally embarrasement when it turned me more and more after 1 hour.
I was glad when she finally let me out.
This could have been the best start to go on wrestling from time to time but as a teenage boy I was literally too afraid to get locked by her again (even it might not have been happening so fast in an open wrestling).
And it didn`t help help that she said that she will lock me even tighter and longer when I provoce her.
So I kept certain distance to her which resulted that we never wrestle again. Its possible to call that pity but maybe it was also the best for all....
in witch hold did she locked you on
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Replies so far have focused on wrestling when people were young enough to have no idea what a fetish is never mind be concerned about it.

What I'm interested in is how people deal with it as they get older. Do you stop wrestling your sister or your brother because you've started to sexualise wrestling? Was that never an issue?

Were you unable to play wrestling games with your children because wrestling was a fetish for you and you were unable to view it any other way?

Is it even a fetish for most here or is it all about the competition?
Personally I lost all interest in wrestling guys around college age. in HS I'd wrestle with guys all the time. It as never sexual, but I enjoyed the physical contest. I was well past puberty by 17 but I remember having long wrestling matches with guys in my HS or my brother, not sexual at all. By 19 I didn't do that anymore and by 19 I was way more tuned into my sexual attraction to lady wrestlers. I have no idea if those 2 things are related or if it was going away to college and trying to grow up. The wrestlers on the wrestling team (several wrestlers on my dorm room), wrestled with each other a lot, but I never wanted to, part of it might be them being bigger than me too.

Andy Kaufman did his wrestling with women bit when I was in 12th grade. 17 going on 18, and that may have swayed my interest quite a bit. I also started buying wrestling and fetish porn magazines around 18 too when I got my first job. (lifeguard) - that was as fun job. It was never enough to get the ladies cause I was still awkward as guys came, but I got a few looks and conversations.

But on the subject of wrestling with family members, I never had a female family member. Most of my relatives were on the west coast and my dad and moved east. My mom had a small family so no cousins to speak of that I saw that much anyway. My dad also married late, in his 40s, his brothers were all grandparents in their 40s so my cousins were all 20 something years older than me - bit too much of an age difference.

But . . . I read a few stories that always interested me. Before the internet, I used to read the letters to legshow or cavalier and there was one wrestling publication that sold stores, not videos, they used to advertise in AmFem and they had good stories. One story I remember a mother wrote saying she used to wrestle her 14 year old son, it was just physical, nothing sexual until one day she noticed her son had this raging hardon when she had him pinned in a school boy pin. She didn't want anyone to see, so she kind of covered it and waited for it to go away, and both mom and son were embarassed. She wrote (a porno magazine?) to ask about this and they wrote back "it's perfectly normal, 14 year olds have hormones, it doesn't mean he wants to sleep with you" - and, one, I agree, getting hard with someone, even a family member, doesn't mean you want sex with them, it means your a teenager and a guy. Anyway, I liked that story, not in a turn-on sense, but an honesty sense, it was 100% believable, cept for the part where the mom would write a porno mag and not dear abby.

I also find Jennifer Thomas' "Mother" videos very hot.

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I'm sure it's not really her son, but if Jennifer Thomas was my mom (I'm older than she is, so that takes some imagination), but if she was and if my punishment was wrestling . . . all I can say is wow. That's crazy hot. Wrestling my mom - not hot. Imagining JT is my mom punishing me - super-hot. I've never explored that fantasy of calling a session wrestler "Mommy", but, honestly, it might be fun. I'm a little curious to try that one day, maybe with Jennifer. Someone who can make it believable.

While completely unrelated, I remember one Simpsons episode when Homer called Marge "Mom" and it cracked me up, but not in a sexual way, just in a "that's funny" way.
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