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Old 15-Jan-22, 09:44
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Woman defeats a much bigger and more muscular man on points in the advanced division of a submission grappling tournament from NAGA, which means the guy was not only very strong and athletic but he was also a very experienced grappler in his own right:

She did well and you can see it was the highlight of her life from the celebration after, but to me watching the game it was really unimpressive. He got out of armbars and didn't follow through on a clear submission opportunity with a foot lock, generally going very easy on her. She was in the process of being choked inside her own guard when the referee called time, so...
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Old 15-Jan-22, 10:39
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She did well and you can see it was the highlight of her life from the celebration after, but to me watching the game it was really unimpressive. He got out of armbars and didn't follow through on a clear submission opportunity with a foot lock, generally going very easy on her. She was in the process of being choked inside her own guard when the referee called time, so...
Man I'm aware you are one of the few guys here that enjoy maledom and dislike watching women beating men, but you are really dishonest and biased if you say he went very easy on her lol, he clearly tried his best to win and it just was not enough, as a matter of fact it's so clear I'm baffled to see someone suggesting otherwise.

To address your specific points:

1)The toe hold didn't work because she defended well and never let him achieve proper positioning to break it, not because he didn't follow through it.
Footlocks are the hardest submissions to finish and you often need perfect technique and positioning, especially against a flexible opponent like a lot of women are.
He was never anywhere close to having a proper submission locked.

2)You can't choke someone from his/her guard with your forearm, you are never going to generate enough leverage to get a tap unless the opponent intentionally let you do it or he is completely untrained and doesn't know what to do.
All you have to do is push him away with your legs to relieve the pressure.

What he was trying to do was to make her uncomfortable enough to force her to open her guard to push him away, so he could have an opprtunity to pass it, but it didnt' work.
It's a typical "desperation move" when you are left out of options to pass the opponent's guard.
It's also generally frowned upon (altough it's legal) so the fact he was willing to resort to a similar "dirty trick" further prove he was not going easy at all.
He also tried the same tactic many times during the match and like you can see it never worked let alone choked her out, he only spent a ton of energy uselessly which worked to her advanatge.

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Old 17-Jan-22, 23:52
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Girl competed in the men's division of a BJJ/Submission Grappling competition at NAGA for the first time (source is in the description) and she defeated a male opponent.

The man tried to choke her by squeezing with all his strenght from inside her guard but it just doesn't work from that position (she just used her legs to keep him away and relieve pressure, like the woman I talked about in the previous post), he only ended up burning his arms out and he eventually got choked as a result.



Usually people see a guy not trying to choke, armlock or crush a girl from inside her guard and they assume he is going easy, but the truth is they are just experienced enough to know why it's a completely wrong strategy.
If you try to attack someone from inside his/her guard you are just going to tire out and/or get your back taken while achieving nothing like the guy in this video.
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Old 18-Jan-22, 00:31
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Girl competed in the men's division of a BJJ/Submission Grappling competition at NAGA for the first time (source is in the description) and she defeated a male opponent.

The man tried to choke her by squeezing with all his strenght from inside her guard but it just doesn't work from that position (she just used her legs to keep him away and relieve pressure, like the woman I talked about in the previous post), he only ended up burning his arms out and he eventually got choked as a result.



Usually people see a guy not trying to choke, armlock or crush a girl from inside her guard and they assume he is going easy, but the truth is they are just experienced enough to know why it's a completely wrong strategy.
If you try to attack someone from inside his/her guard you are just going to tire out and/or get your back taken while achieving nothing like the guy in this video.
Dude could have scored a lucky win if he ankle locked her as she crossed her feet when going for the RNC...but he didn't...
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Old 18-Jan-22, 00:35
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Dude could have scored a lucky win if he ankle locked her as she crossed her feet when going for the RNC...but he didn't...
Yes, he could have but judging by his very amateurish display of skills I'm pretty sure he didn't know about that counter.
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Old 19-Jan-22, 08:57
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Girl competed in the men's division of a BJJ/Submission Grappling competition at NAGA for the first time (source is in the description) and she defeated a male opponent.

The man tried to choke her by squeezing with all his strenght from inside her guard but it just doesn't work from that position (she just used her legs to keep him away and relieve pressure, like the woman I talked about in the previous post), he only ended up burning his arms out and he eventually got choked as a result.



Usually people see a guy not trying to choke, armlock or crush a girl from inside her guard and they assume he is going easy, but the truth is they are just experienced enough to know why it's a completely wrong strategy.
If you try to attack someone from inside his/her guard you are just going to tire out and/or get your back taken while achieving nothing like the guy in this video.
Muscle fatigue lack of fight IQ, the old enemies of the male in an intergender fight.
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Old 25-Jan-22, 11:23
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Tall woman defeats smaller man in a BJJ match, they are both white belts:

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Old 25-Jan-22, 13:04
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Interesting clip though they both roll like white belts.
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Old 25-Jan-22, 13:53
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Interesting clip though they both roll like white belts.
When two white belts grapple with each other they often look pretty bad because they cancel each other out and they highlights their respective flaws and lack of experience, but I'm confident they would still tap out most untrained guys of similar size with ease due to their much better awareness of what to do on the ground.
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Old 03-Feb-22, 20:51
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Woman defeats larger man in Judo 2-1, she takes him down twice at 00:20 and at 1:30, while he takes her down once at 1:00.



P.S: She is wearing a black belt and he is wearing a white belt but I don't think they are their true ranks since she said in the comments he is a blue belt plus she wears a yellow belt in different videos.
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