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Old 16-May-22, 17:55
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Default Re: Can you be fired if you are seen in a fetish video?

Truth of the matter is that as a male talent you're a LOT less likely to get found out because 99% of videos will mostly feature the woman. Unless you're actively trying to make a name for yourself as a famous jobber (like Jason Ninja for example) it's not too much to worry about.
With that said, the chances of you being discovered are very low, but never zero
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You can be fired for any reason in most jobs (and even if you're not officially fired for this, it's easy as hell for your manager to give you a mountain of work s/he knows you'll never complete, start documenting how you're not meeting expectations, and fire you 6 months later). If you're at a megacorp, you're not important, you're just a cog in a massive machine. If you're in government, it's even harder to fire you. You could be dead and probably not be fired. Just look at all the videos surfacing of Madison Cawthorn lately, and he's still going to run for office again, as far as I can tell. If the videos come out, just use his strategy and say "it was a joke!"

But you should ask yourself what the benefit is, and if it's worth it. I know some people make videos so that they can subsidize their session hobby (e.g., spend $400, film it, maybe make $150 back on video sales). If you have a good job, you shouldn't need to worry about making a few bucks back. I'll just point out that if you're not the producer, it's not a session. Maybe you want scissors, but the producer thinks facesitting is going to sell.

For a single male, you'd be concerned about future relationships, or current family/friends seeing it. Again, a job not paying any possible medical bills, while offering supposedly "good" pay (sometimes not even that) and requiring you to show your face and to be willing to take a lot of pain: at what price point (of salary at your main job) is it worth it? Someone's going to do it, but there are reasons lower-pay people in society tend to take on riskier things.

Now if you're into the thrill of potentially being exposed and taking it to the next level of real-life risks, I guess there's that.
This can and probably does occur in the States. In the UK however, we have decent employment laws to protect its workers. Loading people up with huge ammounts of work and then stating that they are to be fired for not meeting targets is called Constructive Dismissal and is illegal. Such an action would probably result in a successful compensation claim for wrongful dismissal.
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Old 20-May-22, 17:56
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I thought about this topic a bit ago when I started seeing fetish producers asking for "new talent" and specifying the face that the male can not wear a mask.

Now, of course, being married or in a relationship would be a reason why most males would want to be anonymous, but for the single male, what's the biggest fear?

I would think it would be employment. Most people here probably have what is called a "vanilla" job that helps support their way of life (rent, utilities, etc). So, the question is can a person get fired if they are found out to be filming fetish videos?

I have read in the past about teachers, police, etc who have been in porn videos who have been fired due to it. But if you're not in a high-profile position, could you really be fired?

I have debated doing it because I love mixed wrestling, but lately my thought is that if they find a video of me doing fetish, that means they were looking for it themselves.

Anyway was just curious your thoughts on this!
I used to be part of videos several years ago. Had several videos in which I was the victim and part of the Session wrestler's website/store. . Back then, I was young, early 20's. When I was this young, I didn't think about the consequences of it being sold online. Or having my face shown. I just thought it was cool.

Once I was in my mid 20's, I started having big regrets. Had dreams of myself being found out, or parents finding videos. Began thinking about the long term consequences of me continuing to be a male victim showing his face. This kept eating away at me. Since you know..these vids not only get posted on C4S, Iwantclips, etc. But they also got posted on PH and other streaming sites.

When you're very young, you don't think about all the consequences or sometimes the future. One day, I decided to reach out to the SW and request she delete ALL the videos I was in. And believe me, there were a lot. I was straight up with her. Telling her that I was afraid of my face being shown to someone who knows me. Afraid that this would affect my job oppertunities, and that I wanted to move onto other things in my life. Basically to move on. Thankfully she was very understanding and did delete the videos. Obviously I paid a very high fee for her to do so, but it was worth it for the piece of mind. With other producers I shot with, they also deleted the videos once I paid enough $$$. Only one producer/session wrestler reposted the Video I had paid to delete. In which I had to reach out to her again and she apologized, saying she forgot.


To answer your question
Can you really be fired?
Yeah, I guess. Though I personally think the chances of being found out are pretty slim. Especially if you shoot like one video or something. They'd have to find the video on C4S(to which most people use stage names), or on some other streaming website. I find that traditional porn tends to get posted more on streaming websites, comapred to mixed wrestling, sessions, etc


The questions I ask myself are..

Has anyone recognized me IRL or have I ever lost a job because of it?


No. I can change my appearance to where I look drastically diff. Grow facial hair, cut facial hair, grow hair long, cut hair and be bald. Wear Glasses, etc. I also look diff compared to my early 20's

The videos I was in were so niche in the grand scheme of things that Im not really worried these days . Websites like PH have gotten strict with uploading copyrighted content, so thats a positive too. No random shmuchk can upload a video from C4S to PH like in the past. Plus in the video world, newer videos tend to get prioritisized and popular. Older videos eventually fall into the abyss/dont get as much traction in viewership. From my personal experience.

With C4S new rules, I dont have to worry about these producers putting videos of me on their C4S w/o consequences. From what I've heard, producers now need an ID of the model/victim as well as a release form??

Do I feel my life is ruined permanently because I was a male victim?

No. While I regret being in videos, I dont think life is over for me. And I don't think it's even over for a lot of male victims, even the ones who have seen Safa Warda, or been part of Reality Girls, etc.

Do I see myself ever being a public figure or talking in public with my face out there?

I dont think so. But never say never. If I were to ever become public and the videos I was in was exposed, I'd just own it and say that it was what I enjoyed at the time. If it means a lifetime of embarrassment, it is what it is.

Am I worried about family finding videos
Not as much anymore. I dont talk to the majority of my family anyway.

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I used to be part of videos several years ago. Had several videos in which I was the victim and part of the Session wrestler's website/store. . Back then, I was young, early 20's. When I was this young, I didn't think about the consequences of it being sold online. Or having my face shown. I just thought it was cool.

Once I was in my mid 20's, I started having big regrets. Had dreams of myself being found out, or parents finding videos. Began thinking about the long term consequences of me continuing to be a male victim showing his face. This kept eating away at me. Since you know..these vids not only get posted on C4S, Iwantclips, etc. But they also got posted on PH and other streaming sites.

When you're very young, you don't think about all the consequences or sometimes the future. One day, I decided to reach out to the SW and request she delete ALL the videos I was in. And believe me, there were a lot. I was straight up with her. Telling her that I was afraid of my face being shown to someone who knows me. Afraid that this would affect my job oppertunities, and that I wanted to move onto other things in my life. Basically to move on. Thankfully she was very understanding and did delete the videos. Obviously I paid a very high fee for her to do so, but it was worth it for the piece of mind. With other producers I shot with, they also deleted the videos once I paid enough $$$. Only one producer/session wrestler reposted the Video I had paid to delete. In which I had to reach out to her again and she apologized, saying she forgot.


To answer your question
Can you really be fired?
Yeah, I guess. Though I personally think the chances of being found out are pretty slim. Especially if you shoot like one video or something. They'd have to find the video on C4S(to which most people use stage names), or on some other streaming website. I find that traditional porn tends to get posted more on streaming websites, comapred to mixed wrestling, sessions, etc


The questions I ask myself are..

Has anyone recognized me IRL or have I ever lost a job because of it?


No. I can change my appearance to where I look drastically diff. Grow facial hair, cut facial hair, grow hair long, cut hair and be bald. Wear Glasses, etc. I also look diff compared to my early 20's

The videos I was in were so niche in the grand scheme of things that Im not really worried these days . Websites like PH have gotten strict with uploading copyrighted content, so thats a positive too. No random shmuchk can upload a video from C4S to PH like in the past. Plus in the video world, newer videos tend to get prioritisized and popular. Older videos eventually fall into the abyss/dont get as much traction in viewership. From my personal experience.

With C4S new rules, I dont have to worry about these producers putting videos of me on their C4S w/o consequences. From what I've heard, producers now need an ID of the model/victim as well as a release form??

Do I feel my life is ruined permanently because I was a male victim?

No. While I regret being in videos, I dont think life is over for me. And I don't think it's even over for a lot of male victims, even the ones who have seen Safa Warda, or been part of Reality Girls, etc.

Do I see myself ever being a public figure or talking in public with my face out there?

I dont think so. But never say never. If I were to ever become public and the videos I was in was exposed, I'd just own it and say that it was what I enjoyed at the time. If it means a lifetime of embarrassment, it is what it is.

Am I worried about family finding videos
Not as much anymore. I dont talk to the majority of my family anyway.
Did you see your videos show up on PH? if so, what was your reaction?

And tbh that sucks that you had to pay a high fee, they should have done it for free.
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Did you see your videos show up on PH? if so, what was your reaction?

And tbh that sucks that you had to pay a high fee, they should have done it for free.
Used to Happen regularly. When it first happened, I was completely shocked and angry. Since I was the person in the video, I sent a message to Porn Hub, telling them that a video of me shown on PH is posted without authorization. And then a few hours-a day later it'd get deleted

My reaction over time was that of annoyance. In which I wasn't "shocked" but just annoyed when they'd be posted again. One of the annoying things would be when these uploaders would constantly reupload it. So, I'd report one video and PH would take it down. Then they would reupload the same video again, and it'd get taken down. And if their account gets deleted, they'd make a new channel and reupload the same videos. Became a constant cat-mouse game where I'd constantly report videos and then they'd just reupload it
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Default Re: Can you be fired if you are seen in a fetish video?

I'm glad you were able to have them deleted (or sort of deleted). Of course whoever already bought them had the videos. Honestly, seems pretty shitty for the producers not to just delete. Unless the video is a top-seller, it's just not going to get many sales past the first week or month or whatever of being released. Squeezing you (figuratively) for a lot of extra money may be far more profit than they'd ever get from the clips, I probably wouldn't session with whoever that was again.

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Only one producer/session wrestler reposted the Video I had paid to delete. In which I had to reach out to her again and she apologized, saying she forgot.
:/ Deleting should mean delete, not just removal from one clip store.

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From what I've heard, producers now need an ID of the model/victim as well as a release form??
Yes, they also ask for SSN on c4s, but they're unlikely to actually require that much info to post it unless it becomes a problem for them. Just enough to cover their asses I guess. (Not sure if there is an alternative for people who aren't American.)
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Used to Happen regularly. When it first happened, I was completely shocked and angry. Since my face was shown, I'd send a message to Porn Hub, tell them that a video of me shown on PH is posted without authorization. And then a few hours-a day later it'd get deleted

The annoying thing would be when these uploaders would constantly reupload it. So, I'd report one video and PH would take it down. Then they would reupload the same video again, and it'd get taken down. And if their account gets deleted, they'd make a new channel and reupload the same videos. Became a constant cat-mouse game where I'd constantly report videos and then they'd just reupload it
Damn that sounds terrifying, at least the PH purge worked out for you. Why do you think you began to feel fear later on in your mid 20s as oppoesd to early 20s? was it something that gradually began to dawn on you?
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Default Re: Can you be fired if you are seen in a fetish video?

Also speaking of which, I recall two reality girls videos which were deleted a while ago.

One was with a 19 year old girl scissoring a guy with a 40 something year old woman who was apparently the 19 year old's MOTHER. Both took turns scissoring the guy. Wild if true

Another was two Indian people wrestling in a vegas hotel room. Description claimed they were cousins

Both reality girls and both were removed a long time ago. Neither had KOs and they were removed way before the KO purge. I always thought that these videos must have been removed at the request of the participants.
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Default Re: Can you be fired if you are seen in a fetish video?

My guess is: if your employer thinks this could bring unwanted and inadequate attention to the place, you will be fired. It doesn't matter if it's because of your sexual or political preferences: if people start talking about you and your place of work in a bad way or perhaps even mentioning a boycott, you will be fired.
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My guess is: if your employer thinks this could bring unwanted and inadequate attention to the place, you will be fired. It doesn't matter if it's because of your sexual or political preferences: if people start talking about you and your place of work in a bad way or perhaps even mentioning a boycott, you will be fired.
I mean really it just depends on the job, for both the guy and the woman who choose to appear inthem

In the case of the woman, can you imagine a woman who has appeared on scissorvixens becoming a high school teacher? Even ifshe only appeared in one scissorvixen video and never any more, it would be completely inappropriate. The reality is that when you decide to do videos such as this, you are excluding many jobs
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