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Old 04-Jul-22, 21:07
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Default Re: Difficulty to book a session

True, but at the same time, it would seem petty to go after someone's livelihood on here, even if they are terrible at communicating. Then again, every other business in the world survives based on reviews and word of mouth, so...

I've had a few terrible sessions so far, but I've never outed who the session wrestler was for it, primarily because I gain nothing by doing so, and because my bad experience doesn't mean the next person will have a bad one, too. We're not all seeing session wrestlers for the same exact things, of course.

That being said, I would not be opposed to contributing anonymously to a chart or poll where each current session wrestler is listed, and you could rate each on a scale of 1-5 in areas such as communication, professionalism, attitude, wrestling ability, headscissors strength, sensuality, etc...

I don't know, does this sound like a decent idea at all?
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Old 04-Jul-22, 21:13
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Default Re: Difficulty to book a session

It may seem petty, and there is a lot of drama sometimes, but if you can't even write an honest bad review, the reviews are completely useless. Anything from being completely disinterested to stealing deposits is valid feedback, if true. Livelihoods do have to be earned. So content moderation can be a delicate thing, I understand, but the policy of "no bad reviews" means I won't trust the reviews there.

Compare Amazon to Airbnb. Amazon allows negative reviews for the products they're selling because it builds customer confidence. At Airbnb if you give even a 4-star review, even in just one subcategory, the host retaliates against you to whatever extent they can (sometimes), even including direct physical threats. I'm not joking when I say I've seen reports of hosts threatening to hire a PI to get the guest's address and go after them. Yet the unstable host had all 5-star reviews. Because there's an unspoken rule "perfect reviews only, or else."
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Old 04-Jul-22, 21:38
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Default Re: Difficulty to book a session

True, but short of doing something horrendous like stealing deposits or scamming a client, what would be the goal of writing a bad review here? I tend to think all it would do is potentially put the session wrestler out of business.

I don't believe there is such a thing as a perfect session, so any review I'd write would include both what worked as well as what didn't. I know a lot of session wrestlers struggle to get sessions (lord knows there was an endless discussion about it on here several times), so if this ends up making it even harder for them to get clients because less clients want to see them, this may result in far fewer session wrestlers out there, which then means prices skyrocket and very few of us can afford them.

Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here, but I'm just trying to figure what good if any will come from writing an honest review, since honest reviews also include negative aspects of the session. And negative reviews are apparently the kiss of death in this profession. Not to mention, if session wrestlers know you wrote a bad review, they can then talk amongst themselves and refuse to see you. They all do require references, after all, so if you bad mouthed a reference (even if they had it coming), it could mean no future sessions.
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Old 04-Jul-22, 21:52
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Default Re: Difficulty to book a session

It prevents other guys from spending their time/money sessioning with someone who isn't good. What's the goal of writing a bad review anywhere, for anything? If you're disappointed after spending money as a consumer on anything and wish you'd been warned with a bad review, you might feel inclined to write a review to help future customers.

Even if you limited it to deposit theft, those reviews probably won't get approved on SG.

You don't have to mention that such-and-such person was 2 minutes late, or that your ribs are moderately more sore than you were hoping for, or that she couldn't submit you in a particular hold in under 27 seconds. Mention that she agreed to do a wrestling session and refused to wrestle, or whatever. Or wasn't into it at all. High-level stuff. No one's entitled to anything. If they don't deliver, they'll have to enter a different line of work. I might argue that getting honest feedback early is actually useful, as pivoting to different lines of work (or just correcting their mistakes and becoming a better session provider) will be easier the sooner you can get started, the younger you are, etc.

You're not obligated to write a review. If you don't feel comfortable, that's fine. I'm just saying you should be able to write honest reviews, and as such, I would look beyond the SG website itself for reviews. It's only reliable for travel schedules.

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Not to mention, if session wrestlers know you wrote a bad review, they can then talk amongst themselves and refuse to see you.
Sounds like the toxic Airbnb situation I was referencing. Writing an honest review isn't badmouthing. If they retaliate against you for honesty, they're just not going to get very far in life.
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Old 05-Jul-22, 01:53
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Default Re: Difficulty to book a session

I too for the longest time was not a fan of outing a girl on a review board for a bad experience. Cuz who knows maybe she was having a bad day or had some other issues going on or whatever. But I'm to the point now where I don't care. I've had so many bad experiences the last 5 years I'm getting sick of it. Like I get it things happen or troubles me arise. But when a girl is just flat out rude. Or when they cancel on you last minute and have lame excuses or offer no reconciliation or way to make it up. That's just bad business practices.

Like another poster said we don't tolerate that from other businesses. We give them negative reviews. We call the better Business bureau. Hell we would call the attorney general if someone were to scam us out of hundreds of dollars. But there's people on here who are like oh no you can't say anything bad about a girl that's not fair or right to do. Hell yeah it's fair. They're in a customer service business. As do I work in a customer service business. If I were to give one of my clients a crappy experience and they complained you better believe I would have to make it right. Or my boss would be on my ass. And if several of those things happened I'd be out of a job. Why is it different for session girls?? I know one girl out there right now who's pretty darn popular. She's been doing it for several years. If I said her name everybody would know her. And I know for a fact she treat guys shitty. Cuz I've exchanged some private messages with other guys who also had issues dealing this person. Yet all I see on a couple of sites are just a bunch of positive reviews about her. When I know for a fact that's not true. And I know first hand how rudely she treated me and how inconsiderate she was and how much of a time wasting flip-flop she was. She also tried to take money from me too, but I was smart enough to not fall for her give me a deposit scam ... before we even talked about the type of session or set a time or a date or anything. That to me is bullshit and a person like that should be outted, so guys know what they're dealing with.

I'm sure many of you (like me) work hard for their money. And I am more than willing and happy to spend it on a girl who's working hard as well and delivers a great session. They deserve it, it's not an easy job that they do. I know that first hand, cuz like I said before I've gotten to know some of the session girls. And they do put up with a lot of crap. But that doesn't mean they can deliver crap service and not be outted for it, especially if they do it repeatedly. Why should us guys have to waste our time and money especially on a lady who's known to not deliver as she promise is or is a frequent flip flopper cancelor or time waster?!

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Old 05-Jul-22, 03:18
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Default Re: Difficulty to book a session

As far as not responding to emails, maybe give a little slack, not a huge amount, but a little. For me personally, I get so much crap in emails that its difficult at times to find what is relevant and what is crap. I know you can make a new dedicated email. But think about it, this email they are using is online for all to see, no doubt its going to blasted with spam in no time. I would just keep trying with the email and maybe put in caps about interest in a session, or something like that, or follow their specific instructions if they are listed.
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Old 09-Jul-22, 09:47
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Default Re: Difficulty to book a session

Once there was a session wrestler who took 2 weeks to reply. I had already given up.
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Old 09-Jul-22, 13:30
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Default Re: Difficulty to book a session

To this day, I've never experienced a bad session either. I think this is also, because I mind their texts on Sessiongirls or wb270 very much. If the texts reveal a certain spririt too me that they love their jobs and the girl travels to my area, I send the e-mail. If they only complain, write up what they don't like and that I have to fill out documents, forms and so on to book, instead of letting me know what they are offering, I don't book. So far, this seems to be successful. (I know I may be wrong about this once)

Yes, there are bad clients that don't book sessions and just like to chat or constantly cancel last minute, but I don't like to be lumped together with them before the sessiongirl even knows me. Just as I don't declare all sessiongirls as frauds or thieves.
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Old 09-Jul-22, 20:29
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For me it seems like forever before you get a return e mail after your first contact. My last session she was very fast with answers and scheduling the session was very easy. She even complemented me on my e mails and the information she got from them. Now waiting on another session wrestler that postponed our scheduled day for a new date and time.
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Old 09-Jul-22, 22:41
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Default Re: Difficulty to book a session

50% deposits should be the standard for the industry,no exceptions.
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