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Re: WOW Julianna Pena Taps Nunes With RNC @ 3:23 Of 2nd Round!
As always here people seem to be shocked that a male wins. Obviously he was probably only a little bigger & stronger, or I doubt those watching would allow them to fight.
The point was, while she was no where close to where she is today, a male beat her pretty bad. The fact people here are obsessed in the male/female dynamic (yes I know that is exactly what this site is) and surprised that men can actually win is why I find these posts somewhat comical. |
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At best I can be surprised by a specific man beating a specific woman when there are specific reasons that led me to believe the woman is the favourite. In this case I'm not shocked that this man won exactly because we don't know anything about him and because she had just started training at the time, it's too vague to be surprised or to draw any kind of conclusion. If for example it turns out he was some unathletic wimp or if it happened today to her current self I would be surprised but it's not the case. Quote:
There can be truly huge differences in strenght and other athletic attributes even among men with the same size and physique, not to mention in fighting abilites. Moreover we don't know if there were people watching when they mutually agreed to go in an alley and duke it out, I find much more likely there was no one around. If their collagues were around you would expect them to prevent them from fighting no matter the size difference. Even if we assume they were around and they were fine with letting a girl and man fight in an alley because it's her choice and she was confidentto win then I would not be surprised if they let them do it even if there was a size difference that was pretty significant (eg 140 lbs Juliana vs a 180 lbs guy or something like that) but still not so large that it would not be considered a "fair match-up". Quote:
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Re: WOW Julianna Pena Taps Nunes With RNC @ 3:23 Of 2nd Round!
The point is she got beaten up and learned from it.... Good for her.
Of course the excuses then start from those here. In the real world men probably win 80-90%of the time. The obsession here for details is what I was commenting on. |
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Putting so much stock into the biological superiority of a male, any male, when it comes to anything physical (fighting, grappling, etc) will only lead you down this path. I have my own theories about what happened here but like you say, there are too many unknowns. |
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Like I can attest from experience BJJ can allow you to overcame even huge size and strength differences (altough there are still limits) if the other person doesn't know how to grapple. But even if you don't trust me on my word you can find all the evidence you want by just asking on a martial arts board or by searching videos of old school, no rules fights between trained grapplers and much bigger and stronger untrained street brawlers. Add to it that professional female fighters are usually also physically stronger than a large percentage of men to begin with, which is something I posted factual statistical evidences of in the previous posts, and it should be a no brainer to understand that a professional female fighter who is also an highly skilled grappler (which is something Juliana was not at the time) would beat the vast majority of untrained men in a fight. Quote:
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Or maybe she just was too cocky. So I imagine you'd only be happy if you found out he was 60-70 pounds heavier with 6" on her or a black belt in BJJ. That would make it understandable? I give up debating. Last edited by fvsfforever; 01-Mar-22 at 19:33. |
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Ultimately is all speculation which is exactly why it's not worthy to make a big deal about it and to draw general conclusions about female fighters due to lack informations of like I said. Quote:
And I still don't understand what's your point to be honest, that most untrained men could beat a girl like Juliana? Because if it is I just completely disagree with it and honestly I don't see how anyone who is even mildy knowledgeable about combat sports could think it, but in this case we could at least agree to disagree an move on. Last edited by Elbow Escape; 01-Mar-22 at 19:57. |
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