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Old 04-Aug-20, 04:28
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Default Can You Make Sessions NOT Feel Like Sessions?

Hi All,

As we all know, a session is essentially paying to meet a stranger in a hotel room so she can provide you with a very specific service that you've outlined in detail ahead of time for her. To me, this doesn't feel satisfying because it's not organic the way it would be if you were hanging with a female friend or colleague and the conversation somehow got steered into how strong she thinks she is compared to you and then she decides to demonstrate by dominating you for her amusement without knowing you secretly enjoy it (or something like that).

In my last session, I crafted a roleplay scenario where the session wrestler and I were friends who haven't seen each other in a decade and are meeting up for a reunion after she dropped me a line that she's passing through town, and she's now a head taller, much stronger, etc... Sounds great in theory, but what became very apparent almost immediately was that pretending we knew each other and had shared experiences was very awkward and did not feel genuine at all, which thereby detracted from the whole experience.

So my questions:

1) Does anybody know if there is a way to make a session NOT feel like you're hiring a stranger to go through the motions of dominating you in whatever specific way you outlined for them in an e-mail ahead of time? Is there a way to make it feel like the scenario I'm describing above?

2) And if so, can anybody figure a plausible reason (apart from having a session) for why you'd be meeting someone, especially a stranger, in their hotel room?

Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Old 04-Aug-20, 06:13
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Default Re: Can You Make Sessions NOT Feel Like Sessions?

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1) Does anybody know if there is a way to make a session NOT feel like you're hiring a stranger to go through the motions of dominating you in whatever specific way you outlined for them in an e-mail ahead of time? Is there a way to make it feel like the scenario I'm describing above?

2) And if so, can anybody figure a plausible reason (apart from having a session) for why you'd be meeting someone, especially a stranger, in their hotel room
1) Interesting conundrum. I think the only way you're going to get rid of that stranger aspect is to see the girl more than once. Depending on the girl, over time, your interactions should become more natural and less transactional. Part of the session then could be how she has become stronger from the last time you saw her. Maybe do some strength contests, arm wrestling, etc.

To make the domination more natural, give them more freedom to dominate you as they want to and stay away from specific roleplays. I have found humiliation to be far more powerful when it's unexpected than when I specifically ask for it.

2) To discuss a business issue? To do a private lesson in something?
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Default Re: Can You Make Sessions NOT Feel Like Sessions?

This is something that I have always struggled with as well. The session wrestler always knows, or at least very strongly suspects, that I want to lose - whereas in a real life encounter, it's much more likely that I'd be trying to win. For this reason, real life experiences are better than sessions IMO.

For me, asking for a "competitive" session helps or, better yet, making the session fee a function of the outcome of the session, e.g. £x per submission instead of an up front fee. Very few ladies agree to this though. And my solution only works for score-keeping type session. It's doesn't work for the session you are after (being dominated for her amusement). I understand your problem though. Hopefully we'll see some solutions posted.
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Default Re: Can You Make Sessions NOT Feel Like Sessions?

I know what you mean. Trying to pretend an unnatural thing kills it. Like trying to imagine you're in an office when reality you're in a flat or hotel room.

Craft a roleplay such that you don't know the other person and applies to the current environment.

For example, she could be the new neighbour that comes into your flat to present herself and say hi.

As the conversation progresses she casually confides that actually wants you to start making her chores for her. You'll naturally disagree but she then proceeds to _make_ you accept that.

Or she's the next door guest and you made way too much noise last night so she'll punish you for that.

Also, don't give them a detailed script.
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Default Re: Can You Make Sessions NOT Feel Like Sessions?

I don't think I've ever gone to a hotel room; the lady always hosts at home though on one occasion I fought in a ring at a gym. And she's not a stranger except for the first time. I also usually like to meet new wrestlers by doing a double with someone I already know and a friend of theirs. I don't plan big scenarios. I just tell her my limits and let her do what she wants the first time. On repeat visits, we fine tune old things and try new things but I try to leave it mostly up to her. If she has fun, I have fun.
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I don't think I've ever gone to a hotel room; the lady always hosts at home though on one occasion I fought in a ring at a gym. And she's not a stranger except for the first time. I also usually like to meet new wrestlers by doing a double with someone I already know and a friend of theirs. I don't plan big scenarios. I just tell her my limits and let her do what she wants the first time. On repeat visits, we fine tune old things and try new things but I try to leave it mostly up to her. If she has fun, I have fun.
Talk about limits indeed and if you would like the limits to stretch a little, it should go up to a second or third session. Perhaps when she trusts you, you can let her surprise you in some kind of way...
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The answer to this is easy! Simply stop trying to achieve this in the context of sessions.

All you have to do is wear this shirt into your local BJJ gym and walk around for awhile.

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The answer to this is easy! Simply stop trying to achieve this in the context of sessions.

All you have to do is wear this shirt into your local BJJ gym and walk around for awhile.

This will probably really annoy the bjj gym (not just the females) and think itís sexist as hell and disrespectful and get your ego and butt kicked by females and males. I like being dominated by woman trained in jiu jitsu but obviously there has to be a fine line. When Iím training, my fetish doesnít interfere, I wonít let her tap me out and Iíll respect her but if sheís ever down to explore my fetish and dominate me when we are not training, Iím more than down! But trust me guys, donít wear a shirt and do this.
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Default Re: Can You Make Sessions NOT Feel Like Sessions?

I would say that the best way to make your scenario more realistic, is to focus it around the fact that you are going to meet a stranger in a hotel room for a wrestling session.

Maybe do a scenario where you are a cheapskate trying to stiff her out of some of her session fee, and she beats the rest of it out of you (very cliche in scissor videos, but may work better for an actual session). Maybe she discovers that you tried to secretly video the session after she specifically told you not to. You could act as if you try to back out of the session last minute, but she forces you to go through it anyway. Maybe you start to make unwanted sexual advances towards her and she makes you pay for it.
Or some other scenario along those lines.

And if you are going to do a session like this, be very brief in your emails to the session girl beforehand, and just let her carry through the scenario when it actually happens. That would be giving her a lot more control of the situation, as opposed to you going in the hotel room and saying "I want this", "can you do this". The domination will be much more realistic.

And lastly, have the scenario start as soon as you walk through the hotel room door. No formalities, no discussion. Just straight to the ass kicking!

I have never tried anything like this myself, but they seem like they would be a lot more believable than if you tried to act out some scenario that would never take place in a hotel room.
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Default Re: Can You Make Sessions NOT Feel Like Sessions?

Well, I've done a lot of thinking about it and came up with the following way to get the encounter to be realistic and not for a session:

The session wrestler and I have never met, but we have a mutual friend who has arranged for the three of us to meet up at the session wrestler's hotel room before heading out on the town. Thing is, the mutual friend sends us a text right before I arrive saying that she unfortunately can't make it, but that we should hang out, get to know each other, and have fun without her.

As we are getting to know each other, I mention that her attire and/or her appearance reminds me of a girl I knew long ago who used to like to bully and humiliate boys (happens to be I'm not making that up). That should be enough of a cue for her to take the idea further -- i.e. admit that she likes doing that, too. Which will make you want to know why, and how...

Anybody see an issue with this not being able to work? I think this makes the session seem like a realistic encounter where the conversation is easily steered into the kinks you have without having to detail them all ahead of time.
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