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Old 30-Oct-20, 18:16
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Default Re: Session rates are getting out of hand

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You say if I don't like session wrestler rates, don't book with session wrestlers. Okay, I won't. So now that I'm instead willing to look for non-session wrestlers that hopefully offer more reasonable hourly rates, you're outraged?
No. I said if you don't like the rate that a particular session wrestler charges then don't book with them, book with another one.

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You do realize that session wrestlers offer more than just wrestling and that we are not all visiting them for the same exact service, yes?
Yes I do but when you asked...

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Do you know who else offers these services outside of session wrestlers and what websites they can be found on?
...it would be reasonable to assume you meant session wrestling as we are generally talking about this.

Moreover, how is anyone supposed to answer that question, and on what websites they can be found, when they don't know what it is that you're looking for, given it appears to be something niche if you're not into wrestling, being squeezed, scissored, choked, knocked out, or submitted at all.

Anyway, the point I made is still valid.

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Are we even all using the same metric? What makes a session girl worth your time and money? Is it purely looks? Skills? Somewhere in between? And I wonder what the Sessiongirls think, I know there's a few on this forum like Anji and Jennifer, I'd love to know what they have to say. The industry is having to change right now due to the state of the world, I'd hope we all want changes that benefit everyone going forward. No one is begging or entitled, we just want our favorite hobby to stay fun and not get ruined
Combination of looks and skills as you say, but also attitude, reliability, personal hygiene and not forgetting price.
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Old 30-Oct-20, 19:10
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Default Re: Session rates are getting out of hand

Yes juvi I meant specifically corona, and the shift in the industry has let a lot of so called session girls that are either clueless or just plain greedy flood the scene. That's why prices are getting out of hand, that and guys just paying whatever price for weak service just cuz they can. I remember Chloe telling me how happy she was to actually wrestle someone as opposed to just sit on their face for hours lol. Are those the types u want setting the standards for sessioning? And London if reliability is important don't u want some means of guarantee? A third party or something to rid both sides of the equation of time wasters and other assorted nonsense? Just look at SG the reviews are turning into the complaint department. Girls tired of overwhelming emails and creepy types and guys tired of women who never respond or getting treated rudely off the bat. Somethings gotta give and the answer isn't shut up and pay more for less
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A third party or something to rid both sides of the equation of time wasters and other assorted nonsense?
I'd be interested in your thoughts how this could be set up and work in practice.
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Old 30-Oct-20, 19:36
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Default Re: Session rates are getting out of hand

Let the market take care of it. If there are guys willing to pay what the ladies are asking, well, fair dinkum.

If there aren't, if the $500, 600, 700+/hr range isn't getting them business, they'll either lower their rates until they're getting business, or they'll go for another form of revenue stream.
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Old 30-Oct-20, 19:49
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Let the market take care of it. If there are guys willing to pay what the ladies are asking, well, fair dinkum.

If there aren't, if the $500, 600, 700+/hr range isn't getting them business, they'll either lower their rates until they're getting business, or they'll go for another form of revenue stream.
That's what some of us have been saying the entire time!

However some believe that the market is unfair and it's not right that session wrestlers should charge that much. Apparently session wrestling should be available at an affordable rate for everyone and the wrestlers should do more sessions at a lower rate to earn more money.
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Old 30-Oct-20, 20:12
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And London if reliability is important don't u want some means of guarantee? A third party or something to rid both sides of the equation of time wasters and other assorted nonsense?
No, I don't want a third party. These are private sessions. At times, you'll get ripped off, you'll book a hotel and she'll decide to cancel and you're out $100. It happens. It's not a regulated industry. It's not a good decision to spend much on this if you're hand-to-mouth, but I prefer the privacy. If you are doing sessions only rarely, I would make sure to book with the most reliable. Arekah Lox, Skylar Rene, Sheena, etc., etc. Less chance of getting disappointed.

Once you've been around for a while, you learn how to weed out the bad girls from their communication before a session and have a pretty good success rate.

I'd rather it just be a private session, knowing I'm taking some risk of loss if I don't get exactly what I was looking for. On the other hand, you're going to get tons and tons of complaints he-said-she-said. Guy saying he asked for bodyscissors but only got headscissors, girl saying why didn't you speak up during the session, and a colossal headache for all. People will do a surprising amount for a surprisingly low amount of money, many would try to get partial refunds all the time. I'm sure Jennifer already gets enough of that. Also, this is mostly a cash business, other than deposits, I doubt anyone wants to pay a third party and leave a bigger paper trail, especially married guys who are cheating on their wives, plus that probably increases total price of a session. I don't think the girl has any incentive to use that anyway, she gets enough emails from customers directly.

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Old 30-Oct-20, 20:18
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Default Re: Session rates are getting out of hand

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Because you made me break my promise that I won’t post in this thread anymore, make it 30%
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You should pay double if you really want to make your point. Or triple.
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No. I said if you don't like the rate that a particular session wrestler charges then don't book with them, book with another one.

Moreover, how is anyone supposed to answer that question, and on what websites they can be found, when they don't know what it is that you're looking for, given it appears to be something niche if you're not into wrestling, being squeezed, scissored, choked, knocked out, or submitted at all.
Right, so you're taking offense that I would rather hire a less expensive strong female to dominate me over a session wrestler.

As for what I'm looking for? Lift and carry, wedgies, and facesitting. The latter two literally anybody can do. And while the former does require a bit of muscle, keep in mind that I'm only 5'4, 133lbs. Surely there are plenty of women apart from session wrestlers who can physically accommodate this for someone my size and for way less than $400/hr, especially given the latter two kinks require zero skill or muscle.

So, I don't require a "specialist" who is an expert grappler, or has a black belt, or has a bodybuilder physique.

Now, while the session wrestlers are certainly strong enough to lift me, their knowledge of lift and carry tends to be severely limited despite listing it as a service they offer. I end up spending a good deal of the session having to teach them most of the different types of lifts -- and this is after they confirmed in e-mails that they can accommodate every kind there is. They leave feeling great that they now know way more. I leave wondering how on Earth she could charge $400/hr without really knowing what she's doing. If I'm gonna have to teach a strong dominant female how to accommodate lift and carry, I'd rather find someone who doesn't charge what session wrestlers charge. So yeah, I ask again -- what other sites are there where one can find women who like to dominate men?

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Old 30-Oct-20, 21:19
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Default Re: Session rates are getting out of hand

What some of you aren't getting is that we all want that same perfect scenario where everyone is happy but then some of you are saying let the market decide and that's just the way it is. The point is we can all do better. I'm concerned the importance of money over everyone's choices and attitudes is souring the whole thing. A lot of potential clients are being priced out cuz the session girls can't figure out another way to screen bad apples and we all accept less and less for more because the market should decide? We don't all have the same exact interests and sessions covers a broad range of things. We need to find common ground and set a real standard so con artists and elitists don't set the bar for us.
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Old 30-Oct-20, 21:26
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You still haven't answered how it works. Who do I email to set up a session? How does verification work? Data security? Real names necessary? How does the arbiter of justice get paid? What metrics are needed to show whether this system improves the session experience?

How does the 3P earn trust with both wrestlers?
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