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Old 14-Apr-16, 11:59
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Default Re: Most skilled and dangerous session wrestler in Europe?

Venom wrestled Veve, Toned Tommi, Julie Squeeze, Kara, Ina Black... and didn't lose. With all due respect to the names mentioned here, no session wrestler can beat her.
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So overwhelming decision to venom? Looks like a session with her must be on the cards
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Venom wrestled Veve, Toned Tommi, Julie Squeeze, Kara, Ina Black... and didn't lose. With all due respect to the names mentioned here, no session wrestler can beat her.
Well, Ariel possibly. I do want to see a full match with Venom and Ina, now that they're both familiar with each other's styles, would be compelling to say the least.
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Well, Ariel possibly. I do want to see a full match with Venom and Ina, now that they're both familiar with each other's styles, would be compelling to say the least.
I don't think Ariel can beat Venom. A rematch with Ina would be great. To be honest, I don't any of the current session wrestlers can beat Venom. Maybe Kathy in her prime would have a chance.
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Those 2, in fact Ina would be the only lady I'd bet on to be able to handle Venom. Then there's the new girl Anika, she seems very skilled though not sure of her background, she and Ina would make for a very interesting matchup. Alice is (I think) the most highly ranked European BJJ belt holder offering sessions.
Depending on whether you view her as active or semi-retired, Fabi Antoine should get a mention.
As for the most naturally lethal session ladies (who don't train for hours every day or are early in doing so), maybe Antscha > Mystique > Axa > Scorpion.
Didn't know Alice has a BJJ belt. Is it blue, purple, brow ...?
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I don't think Ariel can beat Venom. A rematch with Ina would be great. To be honest, I don't any of the current session wrestlers can beat Venom. Maybe Kathy in her prime would have a chance.
I wrestled both Kathy and Venom and I'd rank Venom as slightly more skilled. Kathy's very good technically and she's tough and she's won tournaments but I never got the sense she was really #1/top overall. Jolie was very good when I used to wrestle her and I think, Jolie & Kathy were close, though Kathy had more BJJ, Jolie had more strength. Those 2 would have been a fun match. I tried to set it up briefly, and Jolie even challenged Kathy via text message, on kind of a spur of the moment thing. Jolie thought Kathy was hot when I showed her a picture. I was trying to get Jolie to come and have a me against the 2 of them, but that didn't work out. I was younger and a bit sillier back then.

I think Helen von Mott, in her prime, beats Venom and I think Shannon Logan does too cause Shannon really had skills down, though Shannon & Venom are close. I've also not seen Venom recently, I heard in a post here that she's put on some muscle, so my estimates might be out-dated. I also think Malory Sin beats everybody. She was crazy good. Helen was afraid to fight her when an offer was made. If we had a time machine, Venom might be crazy enough to take on Malory, but I think Malory wins.

Yasmin in her prime probably beats Venom too, I think. Not today though.


Now, maybe Kathy held back with me, so nothing I say is definitive by any means, but my opinion, having wrestled them both is that Venom would beat Kathy.
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I wrestled both Kathy and Venom and I'd rank Venom as slightly more skilled. Kathy's very good technically and she's tough and she's won tournaments but I never got the sense she was really #1/top overall. Jolie was very good when I used to wrestle her and I think, Jolie & Kathy were close, though Kathy had more BJJ, Jolie had more strength. Those 2 would have been a fun match. I tried to set it up briefly, and Jolie even challenged Kathy via text message, on kind of a spur of the moment thing. Jolie thought Kathy was hot when I showed her a picture. I was trying to get Jolie to come and have a me against the 2 of them, but that didn't work out. I was younger and a bit sillier back then.

I think Helen von Mott, in her prime, beats Venom and I think Shannon Logan does too cause Shannon really had skills down, though Shannon & Venom are close. I've also not seen Venom recently, I heard in a post here that she's put on some muscle, so my estimates might be out-dated. I also think Malory Sin beats everybody. She was crazy good. Helen was afraid to fight her when an offer was made. If we had a time machine, Venom might be crazy enough to take on Malory, but I think Malory wins.

Yasmin in her prime probably beats Venom too, I think. Not today though.


Now, maybe Kathy held back with me, so nothing I say is definitive by any means, but my opinion, having wrestled them both is that Venom would beat Kathy.
Had no idea Venom was that good. I was going to say I can't imagine her being better than Yasmin.
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Had no idea Venom was that good. I was going to say I can't imagine her being better than Yasmin.
Take my rankings with a grain of salt, though as, I rarely went all out, and I don't really want to against a woman 30 or more lbs lighter than me (more now that I've gotten fat)., and it's over several years, with my skills changing over that time. It's hard to judge based on my semi-competitive wrestles. I think Yasmin, in her prime was very very skilled. Did high level competitions and everything.

Shannon was crazy good skill wise. So much so that I couldn't do anything against her. Very good defensively. I'd rank Yasmin above Shannon though, both had skill, Yasmin was larger, and I'd rank both those ladies above Venom, though I've not seen Venom for over a year. There's a good chance my rankings are off. I would rank Venom over Kathy . . . hard to say why, but I just would. I think she'd win. It would be a good match though, if you had a time machine and you could set it up. Kathy's been retired for a number of years now I think, but when I wrestled Kathy, I always felt that I had a shot, that I could get her in a hold and force a pin. I didn't feel that way when I wrestled Venom. I felt she could get out of anything I got her in.
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I wrestled both Kathy and Venom and I'd rank Venom as slightly more skilled. Kathy's very good technically and she's tough and she's won tournaments but I never got the sense she was really #1/top overall. Jolie was very good when I used to wrestle her and I think, Jolie & Kathy were close, though Kathy had more BJJ, Jolie had more strength. Those 2 would have been a fun match. I tried to set it up briefly, and Jolie even challenged Kathy via text message, on kind of a spur of the moment thing. Jolie thought Kathy was hot when I showed her a picture. I was trying to get Jolie to come and have a me against the 2 of them, but that didn't work out. I was younger and a bit sillier back then.

I think Helen von Mott, in her prime, beats Venom and I think Shannon Logan does too cause Shannon really had skills down, though Shannon & Venom are close. I've also not seen Venom recently, I heard in a post here that she's put on some muscle, so my estimates might be out-dated. I also think Malory Sin beats everybody. She was crazy good. Helen was afraid to fight her when an offer was made. If we had a time machine, Venom might be crazy enough to take on Malory, but I think Malory wins.

Yasmin in her prime probably beats Venom too, I think. Not today though.


Now, maybe Kathy held back with me, so nothing I say is definitive by any means, but my opinion, having wrestled them both is that Venom would beat Kathy.
Who is Jolie and Malory? Can you give more info or links about them please?
I'm kind of new to this compared to some of you guys.
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Who is Jolie and Malory? Can you give more info or links about them please?
I'm kind of new to this compared to some of you guys.
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I think she's back in NY now. It's been about 6 or 8 years since I wrestled with her, so I'm not sure how good she is now, but she's surprisingly strong for her size. Good core strength and she's very good. She beat Kyla when they wrestled. I also saw a match where she wrestled Julie Squeeze to a tie, but I'm not sure it was a real match cause I think she beats Julie Squeeze in a real match. Jolie used to beat me, though I had weight on her, and I won a fall here and there and when I tried, I didn't have much trouble pinning Julie Squeeze when we met. Nothing against Julie Squeeze, who I love, but I had 30 or 40 lbs on her, and that was enough that I was able to win. I mostly lost to Jolie.

Malory Sin, (who's real name is Debbie Percel), was a top notch Karate fighter, not just a black belt, but a black belt who really knew her stuff and who could kick hard and won black belt tournaments and all that. She took up ju jitsu and ground fighting later and got very good very fast. I had 2 sessions with her and I felt powerless. There was nothing I could do. She didn't beat me silly, it was more relaxed than that, but I felt very much like there was absolutely nothing I could do. There was a 200 lb wrestler named Olga, who was very large, quite muscular and actually quite pretty. Malory and Olga traveled together once and we wrestled when Olga was in the next room. Malory told me that she could take Olga, and that she could take anybody in the wrestling business, except maybe Z. (Does anybody remember Z?). I think Malory told me she could take Z too, but on that, I told her I doubted her, but she said she could, and maybe she could. Z was a tournament fighter who had weight on her so . . . I don't know. But Mallory was crazy good. I'd bet money on her to beat Yasmin back in their primes. She did some NHB fights in the ring.

Z was apparently very good but she looked like a man. There's a story she was traveling down to a tournament and she was sitting next to another fighter, a guy, and he asked her "who are you going to fight" and She said "I"m going to fight a woman from" and the guy interrupted her, "what are you fighting a woman for", he was convinced Z was a man.

Malory mostly retired by the year 2001 or so, she's long long out of the biz. She e-mailed me after 9-11 to see if I was OK, but that brief exchange was the last I heard from her. I don't think she made any trips to NY after that.

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her real name is out there pretty much, so I don't think I'm doing a big disservice to her to mention it here.
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