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That doesnīt mean I agree with everything session wrestlers are doing or charging. The initial post of this thread (by a guy who only posted this in may and than disappeared ) was complaining about prices of 500-700. And while 500 is still ok for me if itīs really someone special I am interested in, and the maximum I ever paid for a 1 hour session. But I would not pay 600-700. Those prices I also consider too much, and donīt session those girls. Quote:
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As a self-employed independent contractor, I can absolutely relate. Years ago, I was frequently ghosted on by clients when I refused to negotiate and lower my rates -- and the result was a much emptier schedule than I wanted. After awhile, I decided to offer a 25% holiday discount (that continued indefinitely). I found 33-50% to be far too big of a discount as to be not worth it, but 25%? That I could live with and still respect myself. The result? The number of clients and gigs I had doubled, and my income increased 65%. Clients who had ghosted on me before now wanted to hire me. I honestly didn't care that I was working more -- I preferred that to the frequent empty gaps in my schedule in which I was making nothing at all. Point being -- this strategy could conceivably work for the session wrestlers who aren't making as much as they'd like. I am not saying that it definitely would -- but I'm also not saying that it definitely wouldn't. Sometimes, working for a little less can end up making you a lot more. Whether any session wrestlers decide to do it is totally up to them -- I am not in a position to tell them what to do. I'm just saying it's not necessarily a bad idea to consider if they're struggling to get clients. Added after 22 minutes: Quote:
And you're right -- none of us really has any real data to support anything we're saying, which makes this thread all the more ridiculous lol I understand their bitterness. They feel that if everyone keeps agreeing to pay high rates, then every session wrestler will keep upping their prices, and then the only customers left will be the very rich ones. I have no idea if they're right or not. It's partly envious, sure, but it's also the idea of "Why can't this be something we all can enjoy? Why should this only be for the rich?" Personally, I am willing to pay the $400 -- and have as recently as two weeks ago. I'm just not willing to do it as often as I would if it were $300. @ $400, I leave feeling underwhelmed. @ $300, I leave feeling a bit better. That's my personal feeling on it so far. If I ended up with a bunch of crappy $300 sessions in a row, then yeah, I'd probably shoot for $400 only and hope there's a noticeable difference. I haven't personally seen one yet. It probably varies person to person. I did resign myself a year ago to not do any more sessions after I left a $325 and $450 one thoroughly unsatisfied. But then after reading a bunch of reviews from others about how amazing their time was, I thought maybe I was missing something and should give it another shot. Can't help having the drive to enjoy being dominated by beautiful women, even if the reality of it ends up not being as satisfying as I'd like. Last edited by mark.johnson21; 25-Oct-20 at 23:20. |
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Re: Session rates are getting out of hand
In the first place, $300 in 1990 is equal to nearly $600 in 2000. So session prices have not increased as much as inflation.
In the second place, I always look at it as I am paying not just for the two hours, but also for all of the time and effort the session girl put into training as well as the excitement of anticipating the session and reliving the moment later. In the third place, she is putting herself out there to offer sessions and that has value. And in the fourth place, if you can’t afford it, don’t do it. |
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I have no problem with uxiel and others wanting to pay a lot for a session. I have a problem with us not having a say in the matter. We are customers. And 300 in 1990 was a lot. But I agree, if you all want to pay more you can.
But with the growing new people producers and female entertainers creating new clip stores on a daily basis and offering sessions of their own. No one really answered me when I asked ''why would you want money leaving the wrestlers and going to non wrestlers?'' All I got was ''if you dont want to pay it then don't'' which is what I have been doing. Can anyone in here tell me if they ever got ripped off? Has anyone given a deposit and got no showed from a session wrestler? How about clock watchers that short session you? As I said before there are good session wrestlers and there are bad ones. If a good session wrestler were to come in here and say ''I will make you a custom video exactly how you like it and I wont do what the others have done'' Then guess what. I will happily pay it. The same way I do with the session wrestlers that I currently work with. But as a customer. getting told pay it or get out of the scene does not sit well with me. But on a different topic, your all great people. |
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Maybe I've just been lucky, but that's how it's been. |
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When I said money is leaving the session wrestlers and going to non session wrestlers to make customs, I am saying that I would like to see things turned around so that the session wrestlers could be the ones getting the custom money. This year I gave a lot to non wrestling producers (see I am not cheap, lol) and normally I don't care to even post here. (been a lurker for years,lol ) but I just seen things change since the 80s and 90s and not all changes have been for the better. We had more choices back then and when we emailed a wrestler they were interested in our thoughts. The good news is that I have a handful of great session wrestlers still working with me on projects. And in spite of what royh may say, I used to know a lot of session wrestlers personally. Meeting them to share ideas in person with them on new videos was a common thing for me 15 to 25 years ago. So we will see. I got a great new session wrestler that is working with me now and she loves my ideas. Hopefully you will all see what we can come up with. |
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Unbelievable (if not to say scandalous) that posting #392 only got my thanks and from noboday else.
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For those that have enough business, I donīt think so. May be they can also earn more, but would have to work much more. No shows are indeed a problem,like you write even for well known girls. Do you believe itīs only because of the price ? I think most of those guys (as well as time wasters via mail) never intend to do a session. May be some would at 100 (?)...but going down from 400 to 100 is hardly an option for any of the girls. |
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#400 posts and still not surrender that we are living in a capitalism system.
Specially if american or english people are horryfied about the increasing prices sessiongirls, i ask me seriously, ARE YOU COMMUNIST. DO YOU WANT PLANNED ECONOMY??? I'm quite social with a understanding about capitalism. Good capitalism is when everybody are winners. Robery or Sharkcapitalsim is when rich people shoot out people from their entreprise NOT for saving their entreprise but for satisfying an encreasing greed! But if a sessiongirls ask more, let's do it, the marked will decide and if people pays the price it's a question of offer and demand AND nothing other. I would also fight vs Sheena for Euro 200.-- but if she want to adopt prices like the best americans and people pays for this, it's justifyed. But if you're not happy tell them... maybe if people stop's to go and thell them why, price will fall. This is the market! And i repeat again. In the 80ties we where shocked about Italian clubs paying 10-20 millions Dollar for a soccer player. Nowadays, Spanish and English clubs makes a competition who will buy the most expensive player and the prices are 100/200/300 millions Dollars... THIS IS STUPID AND CRAZY!!! |
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