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Old 08-Oct-21, 15:13
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Old 09-Oct-21, 03:29
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Thanks for this. Anything with HvM is special
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Thanks for sharing. I was fortunate enough to wrestle HVM several years ago as well as Kristie multiple times. I'm sad I never got to take on any of the other women in the video.
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Thanks for sharing this gem. I used to have the DVD which was called Grappling Glamazons. Helen's match against Afrika was top notch and truly showed how skilled she was against a much bigger opponent.

This was the 2nd time I've seen Ziggy get dominated by a Jiu-Jitsu specialist. The other time was against Kathy Griffin at East Coast Cats. She admitted in the interview that she preferred free style wrestling and pretty much knew she had no chance against HVM.
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Thanks for sharing this gem. I used to have the DVD which was called Grappling Glamazons. Helen's match against Afrika was top notch and truly showed how skilled she was against a much bigger opponent.

This was the 2nd time I've seen Ziggy get dominated by a Jiu-Jitsu specialist. The other time was against Kathy Griffin at East Coast Cats. She admitted in the interview that she preferred free style wrestling and pretty much knew she had no chance against HVM.
she also was beaten by Josephine, another very good BJJ technician.
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Wrestle the formidable Goffin would end in a desaster for Helen. Helen was lucky that Goffin has been retired at the time Helen tried wrestling.
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Wrestle the formidable Goffin would end in a desaster for Helen. Helen was lucky that Goffin has been retired at the time Helen tried wrestling.
I highly doubt that. Goffin was a free style wrestler that would get wrecked by a BJJ expert like HVM. A good example of this would be Xana, who was trained by Goffin along with Nadege. Nadege was a great wrestler, but Xana was on another level because of her jiu-jitsu expertise. She was always in control in her matches with Nadege and took down Antscha many times at DWW.

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Fellow wrestler Helen Von Mott released a list of top 10 most skilled female submission wrestlers and Kathy was listed as no.1. Despite her small frame, Kathy is extremely strong and uses her excellent technique to control and submit her opponents at will.
You know what Kathy Gifford and Helen had in common? Both were purple belts in BJJ at the time. Once Helen got her black belt, she was unstoppable and mainly wrestled guys because none of the women could compete with her.
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I highly doubt that. Goffin was a free style wrestler that would get wrecked by a BJJ expert like HVM. A good example of this would be Xana, who was trained by Goffin along with Nadege. Nadege was a great wrestler, but Xana was on another level because of her jiu-jitsu expertise. She was always in control in her matches with Nadege and took down Antscha many times at DWW.


You know what Kathy Gifford and Helen had in common? Both were purple belts in BJJ at the time. Once Helen got her black belt, she was unstoppable and mainly wrestled guys because none of the women could compete with her.
Nadege often beat Xana..... Not sure where you saw the opposite.

BJJ is the great equalizer and Beatrice would have been dominated if both were in their prime. The best is always before BJJ skills became too good.

Josephine was better then Helen when they first met. By the end Helen was better, solely because she was stronger.
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I highly doubt that. Goffin was a free style wrestler that would get wrecked by a BJJ expert like HVM. A good example of this would be Xana, who was trained by Goffin along with Nadege. Nadege was a great wrestler, but Xana was on another level because of her jiu-jitsu expertise. She was always in control in her matches with Nadege and took down Antscha many times at DWW.

You know what Kathy Gifford and Helen had in common? Both were purple belts in BJJ at the time. Once Helen got her black belt, she was unstoppable and mainly wrestled guys because none of the women could compete with her.
Do we think Kathy could have brought HVM to submission if they wrestled while both in their primes?

I think Kathy was around 5'6 and 135 or less. Helen is listed in Wrestle Wiki as 5'8 and 155 though she was pretty muscular and bulky at times so definitely would have a weight advantage on Kathy. Feel like this would be a good fight.
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Helen beat a less experienced Stacy Jett in a match, but remarked that Stacy was so superior athletically, that Stacy would be better with more training. I think they were the same height and weight also. Unfortunately Stacy, got melanoma and quit the scene.

I see her old myspace is still up. Unfortunately the videos don't work

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